Seats on the bus

[Pats Dragon]

I am always very pleasantly surprised when young men give me their seat. Although I am 65 I don't expect it. I don't think chivalry is dead at all. On the other hand we have a 29 y/o male relative with unseen heart and spine problems who is always in pain and at the end of a long day would be wrong to give up his seat to anyone. Remember that some people look healthier than they are.

 

[DRDISNEYMD]

Need two separated lines at the bus stops.

Line 1 = Guaranteed Seat. This line loads first and is cut off when all seats are taken.

Line 2 = Standing Room. This line loads after everyone in line 1 has been boarded or Line 1 has been cut off due to no more seats.

Nobody who is seated has to give up a seat. People in the Standing Room line are not allowed to make any comments or give any nasty looks.

Forget line 2 -- I fully support Line 1! Everyone gets a flippin' seat ---> "ideally". Realistically, not a chance -- but you never know. I would gladly pay a "travel surcharge" or something for this.

 

[CoffeeCup]

I am always very pleasantly surprised when young men give me their seat. Although I am 65 I don't expect it. I don't think chivalry is dead at all. On the other hand we have a 29 y/o male relative with unseen heart and spine problems who is always in pain and at the end of a long day would be wrong to give up his seat to anyone. Remember that some people look healthier than they are.

I also am 65 years old, I don't expect anyone to give me their seat, and young men never have. The only times anyone has offered me their seat was men older than I was. I have refused their seat, but when a few have insisted, I have taken the seat to make them happy. Although posters keep saying their older children automatically give their seats to mothers with young children or older people, I have never seen this happen on a bus at WDW. I feel sure there are people who give their seat to someone else, but I don't think there are as many courteous people as posters here have claimed. Whoever gets on the bus first gets a seat. If I get on where there is SRO, there is no reason for me to expect a seat.

 

[A Mickeyfan]

I also am 65 years old, I don't expect anyone to give me their seat, and young men never have. The only times anyone has offered me their seat was men older than I was. I have refused their seat, but when a few have insisted, I have taken the seat to make them happy. Although posters keep saying their older children automatically give their seats to mothers with young children or older people, I have never seen this happen on a bus at WDW. I feel sure there are people who give their seat to someone else, but I don't think there are as many courteous people as posters here have claimed. Whoever gets on the bus first gets a seat. If I get on where there is SRO, there is no reason for me to expect a seat.

I know you say you have never seen someone give up their seat, but to be fair, you are not on every bus are you I know for a fact, that I have taught my children to give up their seats & they do when they can. I was just there last weekend with my friend and her DD. Her DD is 25 (and by the way, she is a cancer survivor). Each time we were on any of Disney's transportation, she offered up her seat. I guess you weren't there (where we were) last weekend for the 40th birthday celebration, or to see her offer up her seat. I know you are saying that you are sure there are some, but not as many as they say..... but when you have only so many seats.. how many do you expect to get up and offer on one bus/monorail?

 

[CoffeeCup]

I know you say you have never seen someone give up their seat, but to be fair, you are not on every bus are you I know for a fact, that I have taught my children to give up their seats & they do when they can. I was just there last weekend with my friend and her DD. Her DD is 25 (and by the way, she is a cancer survivor). Each time we were on any of Disney's transportation, she offered up her seat. I guess you weren't there (where we were) last weekend for the 40th birthday celebration, or to see her offer up her seat. I know you are saying that you are sure there are some, but not as many as they say..... but when you have only so many seats.. how many do you expect to get up and offer on one bus/monorail?

Of course, I haven't been on every bus. I didn't say children never offered their seats to others. I just said I had never seen it, and I have been at WDW many times. I don't expect anyone to give up their seat, and I said that in my post. I'm glad you have a friend with a polite daughter, but that is one incident on one bus.

 

[supermom0726]

This is the only thing that ever irks me at Disney too, but I also understand not everyone's raised the same and just take it for what it is. Down here in the good ole south pecking order is as follows for "anywhere" not just Disney: Old people and pregnant women or women with infants first, then women, then young ladies, then men. Children never are supposed to sit in their own seat if an adult is left standing, ever... thats what their parents laps are for. I dont expect everyone else to be that way because manners are different in different places, but when my 9 yr old daughter knows on her own to get up for an adult I must say it makes me one proud mamma!! She also expects boys and young men to open the door for her too, but that doesn't happen often either

 

[Jey12]

Sit! Good boy! Now stay....

 

[supermom0726]

Ooppps I didnt read all the other posts lol Mine was not meant as a north vs south thing .... didnt know there was such a thing

 

[A Mickeyfan]

Of course, I haven't been on every bus. I didn't say children never offered their seats to others. I just said I had never seen it, and I have been at WDW many times. I don't expect anyone to give up their seat, and I said that in my post. I'm glad you have a friend with a polite daughter, but that is one incident on one bus.

I know you never said "never" but what I am pointing out is that there are only so many seats on the bus.. and while there are some of us on here saying that we have raised our children correctly, and there are some on here saying that they have offered up their seats, I do think those that are saying it here, really do & really have I guess I may have worded it wrong the first time around.. we may be in the minority (who really knows for sure) compared to the total number of guests at Disney.. but when you consider the amount of seats on a bus, the number of times you are on the bus.. the odds of it happening.. I guess it is a statistics problem more or less...

I also forgot to say first time around that I totally agree with you about getting on when there is SRO, one should not "expect" a seat... If you really want one, wait for the next bus Me personally, when my kids were small, I got on and stood. Either way you were going to stand.. on the bus or on the ramp. At least on the bus it was getting you closer to the resort.. On the ramp, it got you nowhere

 

[maxiesmom]

I know you never said "never" but what I am pointing out is that there are only so many seats on the bus.. and while there are some of us on here saying that we have raised our children correctly, and there are some on here saying that they have offered up their seats, I do think those that are saying it here, really do & really have I guess I may have worded it wrong the first time around.. we may be in the minority (who really knows for sure) compared to the total number of guests at Disney.. but when you consider the amount of seats on a bus, the number of times you are on the bus.. the odds of it happening.. I guess it is a statistics problem more or less...

Your line about how you have raised your children "correctly" really bothers me. I would guess that most parents raise their children in what they think is the correct manner. It is just that what you see as correct other do not. Some parents want their kids seated where they have no worries about them falling over. For them, that are parenting "correctly".

People need to stop looking down at those who parent in a manner that is different from their own. Maybe that is not what you meant, but it is how it came across, to me anyway.

 

[disfan07]

OH...so you are probably just like those people on our trip last december who were giving me nasty looks because i look like and "able-bodied" "young and healthy" 21 year old.

Awesome. For me, it's people like you who annoy me. I was 6 months post brain surgery on that trip. Major balance issues. I also have back and knee problems from a car accident 3 years ago. So no....if I can't stand on the bus without losing my balance, I am NOT giving up my seat for anyone. When I could not get a seat and I felt like I really needed one I would wait for the next bus. I would NEVER expect anyone to give up a seat for me.

But I never EXPECT anyone else to do anything for me especially something that is just for my convenience. I take it upon myself to make sure I have what I need in those situations.

ETA: so from what it seems like in these posts, because I am not from the South (where apparently EVERYONE has perfect manners) and I don't give up my seat on the bus, I have no manners. Let's see. I am constantly told how polite and kind I am. I am constantly saying please and thank you to my doctors and nurses (even when in pain and coming out of anesthesia.....and you have no idea how much time I spend in the hospital and hear them get yelled at more than anything else by other patients). I hold doors open for people. I pick things up off the floor if someone drops something. I always say please and thank you in general. I say excuse me when needed. I apologize if neccesary.

Since when did giving, or not giving up a seat on the bus become the litmus test for manners??????

 

[larryz]

By your description, you're clearly not able-bodied.

If you're getting "the look," just smile and wink right back at them. That'll either force them to look away, or it will drive them right into a tizzy of self-righteous indignation, at which point you will have ruined their whole vacation and you'll be the subject of the next "sitters vs standers" thread.

 

[Nicoleclaw]

OH...so you are probably just like those people on our trip last december who were giving me nasty looks because i look like and "able-bodied" "young and healthy" 21 year old.

Awesome. For me, it's people like you who annoy me. I was 6 months post brain surgery on that trip. Major balance issues. I also have back and knee problems from a car accident 3 years ago. So no....if I can't stand on the bus without losing my balance, I am NOT giving up my seat for anyone. When I could not get a seat and I felt like I really needed one I would wait for the next bus. I would NEVER expect anyone to give up a seat for me.

But I never EXPECT anyone else to do anything for me especially something that is just for my convenience. I take it upon myself to make sure I have what I need in those situations.

ETA: so from what it seems like in these posts, because I am not from the South (where apparently EVERYONE has perfect manners) and I don't give up my seat on the bus, I have no manners. Let's see. I am constantly told how polite and kind I am. I am constantly saying please and thank you to my doctors and nurses (even when in pain and coming out of anesthesia.....and you have no idea how much time I spend in the hospital and hear them get yelled at more than anything else by other patients). I hold doors open for people. I pick things up off the floor if someone drops something. I always say please and thank you in general. I say excuse me when needed. I apologize if neccesary.

Since when did giving, or not giving up a seat on the bus become the litmus test for manners??????

I think you may be taking this a little too personally.

 

[Wadecool]

Your line about how you have raised your children "correctly" really bothers me. I would guess that most parents raise their children in what they think is the correct manner. It is just that what you see as correct other do not. Some parents want their kids seated where they have no worries about them falling over. For them, that are parenting "correctly".

People need to stop looking down at those who parent in a manner that is different from their own. Maybe that is not what you meant, but it is how it came across, to me anyway.

You aren't the only one who read the PP's post that way.

 

[crashbb]

You aren't the only one who read the PP's post that way.

I'm another who read it as a put down to all parents who don't do things the way that the PP does.

 

[duffy]

Who's ruder?

The person not offering their seat?

Or the person standing, giving "nasty looks" to those sitting?

I believe it's the person giving nasty looks.

 

[SwirlyGirly]

So you're saying you can tell what someone is thinking just by looking at their face? They could be thinking, "ew, it's smelly/crowded/sweaty in this bus."

Who's ruder?

The person not offering their seat?

Or the person standing, giving "nasty looks" to those sitting?

I believe it's the person giving nasty looks.

 

[LilyWDW]

I'm another who read it as a put down to all parents who don't do things the way that the PP does.

Agreed.

So you're saying you can tell what someone is thinking just by looking at their face? They could be thinking, "ew, it's smelly/crowded/sweaty in this bus."

Well, when they spend the whole ride glaring right at you with specific facial expressions, then yea, it's a good bet they are thinking "How DARE you sit when you should be giving ME your seat?" It's pretty obvious at that point because they are actually trying to convey the message that they disapprove of your actions.

 

[Deb & Bill]

By your description, you're clearly not able-bodied.

If you're getting "the look," just smile and wink right back at them. That'll either force them to look away, or it will drive them right into a tizzy of self-righteous indignation, at which point you will have ruined their whole vacation and you'll be the subject of the next "sitters vs standers" thread.

 

[larryz]

I would guess that most parents raise their children in what they think is the correct manner.

After having observed too many children running around in public places apparently unsupervised, sassing back to their elders, throwing tantrums when they don't get their way, having mega-histrionic meltdowns at the slightest provocation, I'm afraid I'll have to disagree with you.

I don't think anyone purposefully raises spoiled brats. They do, however, substitute things for love and quality time spent with their kids, which contributes to the high levels of SBS (spoiled brat syndrome) we see in today's society.

That said, I agree that those who are sitting and can't or won't get up should not be judged as socially inept, especially by today's standards, where chivalry is not only not expected, but, as we've seen on this board, considered passe and contemptible by many.