Seasonal flu vaccine increases risk of H1N1??!!

[mefordis]

http://www.naturalnews.com/027102_vaccines_H1N1_flu_shot.html

 

[luvmy3]

Do you have any links to the 4 studies? They'd be alot more helpful than just an article claiming they exist

 

[RitaZ.]

The article and the website are clearly biased. They don't provide solid evidence to support their claims. The name, Natural news, tells me all I need to know.

 

[Wonderlandmom]

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/SwineF...-h1n1-risk-seasonal-flu-shot/story?id=8676187

Canadian research suggested this week that the seasonal flu vaccination may increase the risk of catching the H1N1 pandemic strain, but government officials said such a pattern has not been found in the U.S., the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said.

The unpublished work appears to suggest that people who had been vaccinated against last year's seasonal flu were about twice as likely as others to catch the pandemic strain when it appeared this spring.

But statistics from the CDC do not show a similar risk.

"It is difficult to speak about a study that has yet to be published," said CDC spokesman Joe Quimby, a senior press officer.

But, he added, "it is important to note that scientists at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have not seen this effect in systems we have reviewed in the U.S."

"We continue to urge people to receive both the seasonal flu vaccine and the 2009 H1N1 vaccine," Quimby said.

International Numbers Don't Support Seasonal Flu Shot Risk

Likewise, an official of the World Health Organization (WHO) said that investigators in countries other than Canada had not found a similar risk increase when they looked at their own data.

"We are in contact with other countries and are having them look at their own data to see if they could have similar observations, and none has been able to find anything like that," said Marie-Paule Kieny, director of the World Health Organization's vaccine research initiative.

 

[npmommie]

The article and the website are clearly biased. They don't provide solid evidence to support their claims. The name, Natural news, tells me all I need to know.

a few Canadian studies have suggested the link between the seasonal flu vax and h1n1, but I think their data is unpublished.........

 

[RitaZ.]

a few Canadian studies have suggested the link between the seasonal flu vax and h1n1, but I think their data is unpublished.........

Yes, that's what the articles stated. Since the study or studies haven't been published, then there is no way to review it/them.

 

[golfgal]

http://www.naturalnews.com/027102_vaccines_H1N1_flu_shot.html

Would you give it up already. We KNOW you don't want the H1N1 vaccine-would you stop posting this garbage about all the "dangers' by unqualified, unsubstantiated reports and their anti-medicine views.

 

[Wonderlandmom]

http://www.naturalnews.com/027102_vaccines_H1N1_flu_shot.html

and this one says the opposite! Take all these studies with a grain of salt. Every single Dr. I know recommends both. And H1N1 is made the same way as seasonal. Not sure why there is such a fight on here today about vaccinations.
http://www.nhs.uk/news/2009/09September/Pages/Firstresultsfromvaccinetrial.aspx

What were the results of the study?

Before vaccination, 31.7% of participants already had the pre-specified level of successful immune response against the swine flu virus. Participants were more likely to show this response if they had received the 2009 seasonal flu vaccination.

 

[allison443]

OP that article you linked to was really vague and short on facts...so I found the original article here. http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2009/09/23/flu-shots-h1n1-seasonal.html

It states

"This is some evidence that has been floated. It hasn't been validated yet, it's very preliminary," cautioned Dr. Don Low, microbiologist-in-chief at Mount Sinai Hospital in Toronto.

"This is obviously important data to help guide policy decisions. How can we best protect people against influenza?"

It's important to validate the information, which has not been peer reviewed, to make sure it's not just a fluke, and that the observation is confirmed elsewhere such as in the Southern Hemisphere, which just completed its seasonal flu season, or in the U.S. and UK.


So I don't think it's really "evidence" like your source "Natural News" said in its title...

You know, for those of us who are trying to make an informed decision about vaccines, this kind of thing isn't helping...unproven "evidence", another post about the doctor on fox news who said don't get the shot, not mentioning the three doctors who said to get it...

(I am not getting medical info from the dis!! But I do like to read people's experiences, etc.)

 

[npmommie]

Yes, that's what the articles stated. Since the study or studies haven't been published, then there is no way to review it/them.

I didn't read the article in her link


I think everyone is just worried and there is so much conflicting information out there, for every one for the vaccine there is one against.
as a medical person it makes my head spin, and I look at real published research.

 

[TinklednPants]

Would you give it up already. We KNOW you don't want the H1N1 vaccine-would you stop posting this garbage about all the "dangers' by unqualified, unsubstantiated reports and their anti-medicine views.

What she said.

 

[MagicKingdom05]

I think I will listen to our doctor, our pediatrician and the pharmacist who actually went to school to learn about stuff like this, who said that my pregnant wife, myself and my 17 month old daughter needed to get the seasonal flu shot. I think that they have a better idea of what's going on then anyone else.

 

[paintnolish]

I have to say. the website title made me not want to click on it. Just the name tells me it is likely to be biased.

 

[mefordis]

Would you give it up already. We KNOW you don't want the H1N1 vaccine-would you stop posting this garbage about all the "dangers' by unqualified, unsubstantiated reports and their anti-medicine views.

Don't read my threads if you don't like them.

 

[Mickey's Minion]

Biased - ya think?

Any article that adds this:
Vaccines are the quackery of modern medicine. They not only don't work to protect people from the diseases they target; they also increase the risk of being infected with other diseases
is so biased, none of the info can be trusted.

I can't take the article seriously when they make such blanket, blatantly untrue statements.

If we believed this crap, our kids would still be spending time in iron lungs.

 

[suzannen]

And then there's this:

Seasonal Flu Vaccine May Lessen Swine Flu Impact

TUESDAY, Oct. 6 (HealthDay News) -- The seasonal flu vaccine may offer partial protection against the pandemic H1N1 swine flu, but not enough to prevent a person from catching the swine flu, Mexican researchers say.

In a study of hospital patients during the H1N1 epidemic in Mexico City last spring, the researchers found that those who had had a seasonal flu shot and were infected with the H1N1 flu had significantly milder cases than those who had not received a seasonal flu shot.

Here's a link:
http://www.healthgrades.com/cms/health-news/article.aspx?id=tcm:5-8397

 

[C.Ann]

Do you have any links to the 4 studies? They'd be alot more helpful than just an article claiming they exist

The article and the website are clearly biased. They don't provide solid evidence to support their claims. The name, Natural news, tells me all I need to know.

Would you give it up already. We KNOW you don't want the H1N1 vaccine-would you stop posting this garbage about all the "dangers' by unqualified, unsubstantiated reports and their anti-medicine views.

I think I will listen to our doctor, our pediatrician and the pharmacist who actually went to school to learn about stuff like this, who said that my pregnant wife, myself and my 17 month old daughter needed to get the seasonal flu shot. I think that they have a better idea of what's going on then anyone else.

Agreed..

 

[ClareH37]

Here in the UK we're being old that the seasonal flu vaccine actually does offer some form of 'cross-protection', it won't stop you getting swine flu but will stop the deadly complications. Also, the swine flu vaccine is apparently (again according to our media) only offering 70% protection.

What I will say though is I've had the seasonal flu vaccine for over 20 years (I have serious auto immune conditions), I have this year mixed with people who were later found to have the swine flu, I have not developed it - normally I catch every cold going due to my auto immune conditions, but no swine flu!