SDFP: CHANGES COMING!! Beware the 7th of June?!

[BDFmom]

I wish I had seen this thread before I ordered my MVMCP! We already received the plastic tickets (they actually sent 2 sets) and unfortunately they are linked to our primary profiles. Eeekkkk Clones!
But here I am contemplating adding another party night during our stay.

Just to be clear...... Those should be ordered under the phantomnames and then the ticket reassigned to our real names. I'll be able to book FP with the phantoms on the party night 30 days out and use those cards for SDFP on all days during my trip.

If I got it right.... just a simple yes. If not I'll head back to post #1 with my head hanging in shame.

Thanks for this great thread!!

 

[ScrapYap]

You almost have it.

You're right that you'd order the MVMCP tickets for the phantoms. And you're right that the cards will remain with the phantoms if you reassign the ticket entitlement over to your real profiles.

But if you do reassign away from the phantoms, you won't be able to book FP in advance for the phantoms for the party day because they won't have any tickets.

Do you have other media for park entrance on party day - can you go in before 4:00 PM? If not, the window for FP is extremely narrow, since as you probably know, there are no FP during the party. So those party-day FP aren't all that useful. If you're going into the MK in the morning with a different park pass, then the extra FP would be more meaningful - because you should be able to prebook the phantom FP for any time of the day (just just during the party window). You'd just have to have another kind of ticket for entering in the morning.

Also, the prebooking for the party night is wonky this year. It's not generally working at 60 days (with only the party night for admission and using the umbrella function to book). Some are saying it also won't work at 30, though that would be surprising. But it's possible. If you can no longer prebook at all with a party ticket, you may as well reassign the entitlements to your real profiles. Then you'll just use the empty cards belonging to the phantoms for SDFP on any days, as you said.

If it turns out that you can prebook for party tickets at 30 days and you leave the tickets on your phantoms, you can change the phantom names to a version of your real names as the party approaches. Lots of people just enter with phantom tickets under phantom names. CMs don't check ID at the tapstiles. But it somehow feels better to have tickets in your real names.

 

[PolyRob]

The MVMCP FP+ intrigues me.

I plan on having my regular FP+, one set of GLFP, and two sets of SDFP this trip! We managed our regular FP+ and one set of SDFP on our last trip. It was right around the time Disney upgraded the app so that you could book/use one FP+ in one park, and then book/switch to another FP+ in another park!

I have three sets of phantom profiles set up in my main MDE for the GLFP and two SDFP. I also made a second MDE for our MVMCP tickets. I have not yet purchased them, but I plan on doing this in all of our real names, switching the first names to our middle names prior to the trip, linking to my primary MDE, and then viewing and managing all from my main MDE account.

I see it is unknown whether or not the MVMCP FP+ will be bookable 30 or 60 days out. If it is bookable ahead of time, has it historically worked like a GLFP where I could toggle a resort guest to get the FP+ earlier? Also, historically, have the time slots only been from 4-7 for party guests, or is that disclaimer just that someone without additional ticket media would be able to book FP+ for any time of day, but just not able to utilize them until they entered the park. (Say a 3:30 - 4:30pm FP+ would be bookable and work)

 

[BDFmom]

You almost have it.

Thank you! We will have our regular MB to enter the park on the second party day in the morning. The other party day was a planned morning rest day. We have 8 day hoppers and one party ticket linked to MDE. I figured on the first party day I would book my regular FP for the pre-party entry time.

If I do take the plunge and get the second party ticket I'll wait to reassign the ticket until it's clear about pre-booking the FP on that ticket. OR I may just take the less expensive option and get 3 unlinked MB for SDFP.

PS this is the email from WDW re the tickets....
Thank you for your recent ticket purchase! Please visit
www.mydisneyexperience.com to link your tickets. With your tickets linked, you
will be able to begin selecting your FastPass+ experiences once your selection
window opens. You can reserve your FastPass+ experiences 30 days prior to your
visit to the theme parks. If you are staying at one of our Walt Disney World
Resorts, you can start planning even earlier at 60 days prior to your check in
date. For assistance with linking your tickets or selecting FastPass+, please
contact the Internet Help Desk at 407-939-7765.

 

[twoolle]

Does anyone have any creative ideas to cut down/modify your SDFP magicbands so they will not be bulky to carry around?

I was thinking of putting them all on a mommy hook (big carabiner) and then I can just easily grab them out of the backpack or even clip to a strap on the backpack or stroller.

 

[hiroMYhero]

I see it is unknown whether or not the MVMCP FP+ will be bookable 30 or 60 days out. If it is bookable ahead of time, has it historically worked like a GLFP where I could toggle a resort guest to get the FP+ earlier? Also, historically, have the time slots only been from 4-7 for party guests, or is that disclaimer just that someone without additional ticket media would be able to book FP+ for any time of day, but just not able to utilize them until they entered the park. (Say a 3:30 - 4:30pm FP+ would be bookable and work)

In a recent thread, it was determined that "toggling" didn't work to umbrella the 60-day window over to Party ticket holders. A 30-day window is the only option for those who do not have an onsite reservation.

The FP times have to end at 6:30. So, try for 3:15, 4:15, and 5:15/5:30. MNSSHP FP holders are finding their FPs are being cancelled if the return window extends past 6:30p.

 

[PolyRob]

In a recent thread, it was determined that "toggling" didn't work to umbrella the 60-day window over to Party ticket holders. A 30-day window is the only option for those who do not have an onsite reservation.

The FP times have to end at 6:30. So, try for 3:15, 4:15, and 5:15/5:30. MNSSHP FP holders are finding their FPs are being cancelled if the return window extends past 6:30p.

Thank you! This is very helpful in planning out my touring strategies. I appreciate all the wonderful tips and help in this thread!!

Additionally, for anyone looking at purchasing additional bands, the shop parks app has 15% off and free shipping at $75. I have found magic bands are excluded from most promotions so this may be a good option if anyone is interested.

 

[SBWB48]

Update: I got the 4 cards from eBay. As you suggested, I attempted to link them (after setting up phantoms with our middle names on MDE) and it worked! So the SDFPs we book each day should show up on the MDE app under the phantom profiles and I shouldn't have to take a pic of the kiosk screen, correct? They all came up as 1-day tickets (3 of them for DAK/EP and the other for the water parks). Does that matter in regards to using them for SDFPs on multiple days? Now that I've linked them to phantoms, I'm wondering if I could've just linked them to our real names. Would that have worked?

I scored some of those cards from ebay myself.

A question about umbrella and GLFP. Once I do the umbrella thing on my phantoms and pick FPs 60d out on the phantoms.. can I make changes (sometime between the 30 day and 60 day mark) to the FP selections on those phantoms (that have tickets assigned to them), even if they are no longer grouped with a profile that has the resort reservation?

For those that have been able to find cards on eBay recently, how have you been searching for these on eBay? I've tried a number of different search terms and combinations, but all results returned seem to always be for actual tickets or plastic holders for the actual cards.

ETA: Just went back to page 16 (stopped at 17 when I originally asked ) and it looks like there are just no sellers at the moment. Guess I'll have to keep trying!

 

[jillyh]

I along with a bunch of other people on the 1st week of december thread feel more comfortable setting up a 2nd mde. Haven't decided for sure, but have ordered magic bands. I'm wondering why the recommendation is for making phantom profiles on your own mde age 16 or 17? I'm in my 50's so I would feel more conspicuous have the magic band of a 16 or 17 y/o - if any CMs were to look into it.

 

[ScrapYap]

I along with a bunch of other people on the 1st week of december thread feel more comfortable setting up a 2nd mde. Haven't decided for sure, but have ordered magic bands. I'm wondering why the recommendation is for making phantom profiles on your own mde age 16 or 17? I'm in my 50's so I would feel more conspicuous have the magic band of a 16 or 17 y/o - if any CMs were to look into it.

Two MDEs is less streamlined - and you won't be able to reassign tickets down the road, which you might want to do at some point. And you won't be able to view SDFP on your primary MDE.

The main reason that phantom profiles should be under 18 is that you may at some point want to add the phantoms to a resort reservation (in order to acquire the bands and the 60 day FP window for party nights) - and you'd have to pay extra for the phantoms if they are over 18.

So many families visit Disney World, MDEs routinely have babies to seniors and everything in between. Grandchildren, nieces, nephews, etc. often share a room with grandparents, uncles, aunts. Also, the age of the guest isn't going to pop up on an FP attraction entrance screen.

 

[kticern]

I am an AP holder along with my DH, DS6 and DS4. I have booked my 3 FP using my AP.

Today I created a dummy MDE and made us friends and family so I can see the four dummy profiles in my main MDE. I then bought MNSSHP tickets with my AP discount and assigned them to the four dummy profiles. I was then able to book 3 party day FP for the dummy profiles.

I want to plan on using the party tickets to get SDFP for the other 7 days of our trip. I am concerned about the possibility of misplacing any of the physical cards that have the MNSSHP tickets attached to them. (Falling out of my pocket while riding RnR...I know I worry too much!)

If this were to happen what are the solutions? Can I go to guest services and get the ticket placed on a new card or just transfer the ticket entitlement on MDE to my main profile and lose the extra party day FP? Will I be out of luck and lose the party ticket if I lose the card? I just want to make sure I am covered for the party ticket if I use these for SDFP before the ticket entitlement is used. SDFP sounds awesome but not at a $275 expense!

 

[jillyh]

Thanks ScrapYap. My plan is to create another MDE with my husbands email, put the dummy profiles attached to the MB there and log into this profile on his phone. So we would see 3 main FP on my phone and the SDFP on his phone. I guess it's a little clunkier, but I feel like it will help me keep it organized.

I have one more question you might be able to answer. I have already bought tickets for MVMCP which are on my own MDE, and I chose the print at home option. If I were to reasign the tickets to the dummy profiles on DH's MDE would they no longer be associated with my MDE so I could book the additional FP?

 

[MimiOfTwo]

I have 2 trips coming up & both are packages. I ordered an extra set of magic bands from the Disney store to get SDFP for both trips but then I saw the Park Saver deal on tickets. I know I can buy them & link to our new MB using our middle names. The only reason I haven't pulled the trigger is I keep thinking what if I use them for GLFP and in the meantime Disney upgrades the system so any ticket you've used to obtain fast passes is considered used. Again I know not to use them for park entrance but do any of you think it's possible your tickets could be considered used when you've only used them for GLFP?

 

[ScrapYap]

I am an AP holder along with my DH, DS6 and DS4. I have booked my 3 FP using my AP.

Today I created a dummy MDE and made us friends and family so I can see the four dummy profiles in my main MDE. I then bought MNSSHP tickets with my AP discount and assigned them to the four dummy profiles. I was then able to book 3 party day FP for the dummy profiles.

I want to plan on using the party tickets to get SDFP for the other 7 days of our trip. I am concerned about the possibility of misplacing any of the physical cards that have the MNSSHP tickets attached to them. (Falling out of my pocket while riding RnR...I know I worry too much!)

If this were to happen what are the solutions? Can I go to guest services and get the ticket placed on a new card or just transfer the ticket entitlement on MDE to my main profile and lose the extra party day FP? Will I be out of luck and lose the party ticket if I lose the card? I just want to make sure I am covered for the party ticket if I use these for SDFP before the ticket entitlement is used. SDFP sounds awesome but not at a $275 expense!

The way you've set it up does work - but if you're going to create a friends link between your two MDEs, then all the profiles are connected -- which is effectively no different than having them all on the same MDE. So it would have been easier to set up the phantoms on the original MDE. Just be sure you haven't used the same names for the real profiles and the phantoms.

If you were to lose the cards, you will NOT lose the tickets.

Visiting guest services, the way the profiles stand now, might be awkward because you have no ID to prove that you are the phantom. But you have a couple of choices. Change the name of the phantom to match your real names - then you will have ID to prove that you are the owners of the tickets - and they'll give you another set of cards (which you can then use for SDFP as you would have used the original card that are now lost). (Though you're not going to lose them.) Once you get the new cards, you can go back into your MDE and change the names of the phantoms to something other than your real names to prevent a possible merger of the profiles. The only complication is that you will temporarily have two sets of identical profiles at the time you visit guest services - and the CM might just merge them for you (to be helpful). So, if you really lost the tickets, change the phantoms to your real names. But before you visit guest services, change your real names to your middle names or something. Then switch it all back after you have the new cards. I know that's complicated.

The other choice (if you lost the cards) would be to reassign the party tickets to the real profiles and use your AP cards or MBs to enter for the party. But then you wouldn't have any cards for SDFP.

 

[ScrapYap]

Thanks ScrapYap. My plan is to create another MDE with my husbands email, put the dummy profiles attached to the MB there and log into this profile on his phone. So we would see 3 main FP on my phone and the SDFP on his phone. I guess it's a little clunkier, but I feel like it will help me keep it organized.

I have one more question you might be able to answer. I have already bought tickets for MVMCP which are on my own MDE, and I chose the print at home option. If I were to reasign the tickets to the dummy profiles on DH's MDE would they no longer be associated with my MDE so I could book the additional FP?

How will you access the tickets if you reassign? Since you are printing at home, you won't have cards in the mail. This scenario isn't great. You could buy MBs to access the tickets once they belong to the phantoms. But I'm not sure how exchanging the ticket vouchers for cards will work out since you won't have ID that matches the phantoms names. It might not be a problem, but it's never a good idea to go to guest services about tickets that are no longer assigned to your real profiles.

This is another reason to do everything on one MDE. You can't reassign tickets from one MDE to another MDE unless your two MDEs are linked as friends. But if the MDEs are friends, all the profiles appear as a unit - just as they would if they were all on one MDE. Which means the profiles could be merged. And you'll see each other's reservations and FP - which means it won't help you stay organized. The fact that you have to reassign the tickets means that two MDEs is useless for organization.

If you are reassigning tickets, just use one MDE. The way to keep it organized is to give the phantoms very clear names, like SDFP#1 Jones and SDFP#2 Jones.

But your main issue is the lack of bands or cards to access phantom tickets.

Reassigning party tickets is considered an "Advanced User" option for SDFP. If you're unsure about all this, you'll need to reread the first post of this thread - as it makes no sense for folks here to retype it all in response to questions. Be sure to use the Ctrl F keys so you can search for keywords.

 

[ScrapYap]

I am an AP holder along with my DH, DS6 and DS4. I have booked my 3 FP using my AP.

Today I created a dummy MDE and made us friends and family so I can see the four dummy profiles in my main MDE. I then bought MNSSHP tickets with my AP discount and assigned them to the four dummy profiles. I was then able to book 3 party day FP for the dummy profiles.

I want to plan on using the party tickets to get SDFP for the other 7 days of our trip. I am concerned about the possibility of misplacing any of the physical cards that have the MNSSHP tickets attached to them. (Falling out of my pocket while riding RnR...I know I worry too much!)

If this were to happen what are the solutions? Can I go to guest services and get the ticket placed on a new card or just transfer the ticket entitlement on MDE to my main profile and lose the extra party day FP? Will I be out of luck and lose the party ticket if I lose the card? I just want to make sure I am covered for the party ticket if I use these for SDFP before the ticket entitlement is used. SDFP sounds awesome but not at a $275 expense!

Do you have the cards in hand for the party tickets? If you were printing at home, you'll have the same issues as the other December Threader.

 

[ScrapYap]

I have 2 trips coming up & both are packages. I ordered an extra set of magic bands from the Disney store to get SDFP for both trips but then I saw the Park Saver deal on tickets. I know I can buy them & link to our new MB using our middle names. The only reason I haven't pulled the trigger is I keep thinking what if I use them for GLFP and in the meantime Disney upgrades the system so any ticket you've used to obtain fast passes is considered used. Again I know not to use them for park entrance but do any of you think it's possible your tickets could be considered used when you've only used them for GLFP?

That's not possible. Admission is a Big Deal to Disney. There is no way you would be expected to use two tickets for admission on the same day. And FP tapstiles have no connection to the massive admission databases. You're never going to scan your fingerprint when you arrive at a FP attraction.

The only risk is that the loophole will close and when you go to use your GLFP you'll get an error message saying that you have to enter the park with that ticket in order use it for entering a FP attraction. But the SDFP loophole will close first anyway. Later, the GLFP loophole will close. No matter what, you would not be charged for park entrance twice.

 

[ScrapYap]

Thank you! We will have our regular MB to enter the park on the second party day in the morning. The other party day was a planned morning rest day. We have 8 day hoppers and one party ticket linked to MDE. I figured on the first party day I would book my regular FP for the pre-party entry time.

If I do take the plunge and get the second party ticket I'll wait to reassign the ticket until it's clear about pre-booking the FP on that ticket. OR I may just take the less expensive option and get 3 unlinked MB for SDFP.

PS this is the email from WDW re the tickets....
Thank you for your recent ticket purchase! Please visit
www.mydisneyexperience.com to link your tickets. With your tickets linked, you
will be able to begin selecting your FastPass+ experiences once your selection
window opens. You can reserve your FastPass+ experiences 30 days prior to your
visit to the theme parks. If you are staying at one of our Walt Disney World
Resorts, you can start planning even earlier at 60 days prior to your check in
date. For assistance with linking your tickets or selecting FastPass+, please
contact the Internet Help Desk at 407-939-7765.

If you do order the second party day tickets, be sure you don't print at home!

 

[BlueLion]

*edited, accidentally posted before finishing*

Happy to share I just returned from my trip where I was able to successfully put all the SDFP info from @ScrapYap, @hiroMYhero, @marciemi and others to good use! A quick rundown on my experience and observations:

* There were 4 of us, including me, DH, DS9, DS2. I bought two bands, attached them to phantoms in my regular MDE account, and used those and my 2yo's for SDFP at the kiosks.
* I had mixed results with the kiosks:
-When I needed them, they often weren't near (e.g., Storybook Circus in MK). But then I'd notice them when I didn't really need them.
-Some had no lines and it was easy to do what I needed to do - City Hall was great (as expected, from this thread). Hollywood Studios seemed to always have lines, and CMs who were at each kiosk and doing everything - probably good for those who were confused (hence the lines), but not my ideal. Though the guy did help me reschedule the GMR SDFP whose window had already started (maybe ended?) to a new time. He also wanted to move one of my later regular FPs though, which wasn't what I wanted. He was friendly enough though, and just being helpful - no real problems.
-I also saw lines (short ones) frequently at Philharmagic
-Some of the touchscreens on the kiosks really didn't work well
* The extra bands worked great for evenings at MK, and it was nice to be able to get FPs not so spaced out when you don't have too long to spend there.
* I've got a slew of extra ride photos in my PhotoPass account from those extra bands in my bag!

All in all, it was so nice to have these extra bands to help easily fit in a few extra rides. Thank you for all the helpful info, and the time that has gone into detailing and sharing all this!

 

[MimiOfTwo]

That's not possible. Admission is a Big Deal to Disney. There is no way you would be expected to use two tickets for admission on the same day. And FP tapstiles have no connection to the massive admission databases. You're never going to scan your fingerprint when you arrive at a FP attraction.

The only risk is that the loophole will close and when you go to use your GLFP you'll get an error message saying that you have to enter the park with that ticket in order use it for entering a FP attraction. But the SDFP loophole will close first anyway. Later, the GLFP loophole will close. No matter what, you would not be charged for park entrance twice.

Thank you! I just wanted to confirm it wouldn't be an issue. We visit at least once a year so GLFP is definitely the way to go for us!