Saw something last week that surprised me

[Talking Hands]

I doubt it. I know that skate boards, roller blades and wheelies are not allowed so I assume that push scooters would also not be allowed.

 

[Cheshire Figment]

Disney does not allow any Guests to use any two-wheel vehicle in the Parks.

And for three or four wheel vehicles they must be designed primarily for mobility for disabled people (usually wheelchairs or EVCs).

 

[RachelZ3]

Hiya Cheshire-
I read the links in your sig line, and hope you know how this works... my son is celebrating his 3rd birthday on the 3rd day of our 4 day trip. I have conflicting information, but I think the bottom line is that WDW considers him to be the age he checked in as for the length of his stay, so he's got free admission for all four days - right?
But as outlined in your "Everything About WDW Tickets" thread, if he is an infant, he has no ticket, so how do I deal with us entering on his birthday and the next day?
For that matter, how do we enter when he's still 2? Do I show his passport to someone at the gate? Is there a "free" ticket issued to us for him for all four days?
For some reason, when I try to book the 4 day trip (three nights) the WDW site suggests a 2 day MYW pass for me... I am confused!

 

[peemagg]

He will be considered 2 for the length of your stay. When you get to the parks you just take him through. You can bring a birth certificate or passport if you like to prove his age, but I doubt anyone is going to ask for proof.

I know a few years ago when we took my nieces and nephew no one asked us about their ages (except at dining resorts. We were on the dining plan and we had to watch that they didn't try to charge for the oldest niece, unless we ordered something special for her.). They were 13 months, 13 months, and 2.5 years old. No issues at the parks what so ever.

 

[RachelZ3]

We'll have his passport along because we'll need it to fly (I think?) so that'll work... but he does look older than he is (large for his age) and he is turning 3 halfway through...
So they just look at you as you go through the gate and sit down at dinner?
And what's an AKL Trifecta?

Here's my idea... I want to take my son to ALL the Disney Parks. I haven't traveled in years (used to all the time) and haven't been to a Disney Park in about 30 years...(I'm old). I figured I'd start with WDW b/c its close to us in NYC... then in May we'll go to Disney Paris, because we can take a train there from London, a shorter flight than Paris, and we can take the train from there to Antibes, where my father lives. My son is into trains. All we're going to do at WDW is the trains and see Mickey. Then next year for his 4th bday I'll take him to DisneyLand in Cali. We may have to continue West on that same trip to hit the Hawaii and then Japan and Hong Kong (my son is learning Mandarin). Then in 2014, we'll head to Shanghai.
I wonder if there's any kind of club or pass for people who go to all the Disney Parks?

 

[crashbb]

We'll have his passport along because we'll need it to fly (I think?) so that'll work... but he does look older than he is (large for his age) and he is turning 3 halfway through...
So they just look at you as you go through the gate and sit down at dinner?
And what's an AKL Trifecta?

No need for a passport (or any ID) to travel domestically with your son. The only time someone under 18 years (or is it 16 years?) needs ID to travel domestically is if they are under 2 and traveling as a lap child.

 

[peemagg]

The Animal Kingdom Lodge Tri-fecta is going to all 3 sit down restaurants there. We ate at Boma's, Jiko and Sanaa in one trip.

When it comes to dining just make sure that you let them know that the child is under 3.

Man, that's a lot of traveling. Wish I could go with you. I'm jealous! Do you need 2 more chaparones? LOL

 

[RachelZ3]

The Animal Kingdom Lodge Tri-fecta is going to all 3 sit down restaurants there. We ate at Boma's, Jiko and Sanaa in one trip.

When it comes to dining just make sure that you let them know that the child is under 3.

Man, that's a lot of traveling. Wish I could go with you. I'm jealous! Do you need 2 more chaparones? LOL

Well, I may just be dreamin'. Let's see how this trip goes first...
If all goes well, it does make sense to go before he's in real classes, although on the other hand, he's so young he probably wont remember being there.
On the other other hand, it has to register somewhere in him, to associate travel with trains and Mickey Mouse, right?

 

[MinnieForMe]

Wow! I'm shocked that someone would state a child should never be in the lap of someone running an ECV. I don't know how I would have ever carried my babies/toddlers independently if not on my lap. In my 13 years of being a handicap mom, no one has ever questioned my right to carry my own child on my lap whether in my wheelchair or in my scooter! Might I add - I've never hit anyone or had an accident! Of course, I would never let my children drive my scooter in public.

 

[KPeveler]

Wow! I'm shocked that someone would state a child should never be in the lap of someone running an ECV. I don't know how I would have ever carried my babies/toddlers independently if not on my lap. In my 13 years of being a handicap mom, no one has ever questioned my right to carry my own child on my lap whether in my wheelchair or in my scooter! Might I add - I've never hit anyone or had an accident! Of course, I would never let my children drive my scooter in public.

When it comes to Orlando-area rentals, including park rentals, I am pretty sure every contract states that no children are to be on the ECV, ever. I KNOW that no child should ever be on a park scooter.

When it comes to personal scooters, it gets more complicated. Children, according to manufacturers, STILL should never be on the drivers lap. The device is just not designed for this. Also, the ADA does not protect your right to have a child on your lap, just your right to use whatever mobility device is necessary.

That being said, I totally understand the trials of being a disabled parent (full time wheelchair user here) or child-care-giver. I am not certain how i will handle my kids in daily life.

This board cannot and does not condone, suggest, or in any other way support children riding with scooter users. What an individual does is their own business, but it is against rental policies as well as manufacturer guidelines.

 

[Cheshire Figment]

The owner's manual for my Pride ECV specifically states that it is unsafe to carry any passenger.

The ECV weighs 192 pounds without me on it, and can do 4½ MPH with me on it. If a child was on my lap and pushed against the control bar it could cause me to run into something or someone, in any event causing serious injuries.

All the rental companies, and Disney for its rentals, include a statement on the rental agreement that you are not to carry passengers.

 

[mellers]

I totally understand the concerns that go with parenting while disabled - my wife and i dont even have kids yet and we are already working on how I will transport them as a full time wheelchair user. I know an infant can be put in a sling-carrier and certainly not mess with driving, but I dunno how to do it safely after that!

I use either a manual or powerchair, so it will be a little different than an ECV (where the child is between the driver and the controls). My sister is going to come up with a stroller for me that attaches to my wheelchair (she's an engineer), which technically is against the rules of Disney, but we'll have to see what is allowed.

there are a LOT of challenges to being a parent, and some of those are doubled by being a disabled parent. But putting a child on an ECV with the person who is driving it is dangerous to the driver, the child, and the people around them.

It was not so much an issue for me (I was injured after my child was able to walk independently), but I have heard that there are child seats that can attach to the front, like a basket, although I can't say that I've seen or used one.

 

[honeydiane1953]

Never knew there were scooter rules. Trip before last when one of my two grandchildren were tirrrred I would let them ride with me. Not a word was said.

 

[aubriee]

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[Talking Hands]

I was at Zoo Miami last week and did have my 9m grandson on me for a while in my PWC. Even at that age I had to be careful that he did not try to steer. He was fascinate by the controller. He was in a front carrier so he was secure but we qucikly decided that unless he was sleeping (good luck with that) it wasn't as safe as I thought it would be.

 

[KPeveler]

I was at Zoo Miami last week and did have my 9m grandson on me for a while in my PWC. Even at that age I had to be careful that he did not try to steer. He was fascinate by the controller. He was in a front carrier so he was secure but we qucikly decided that unless he was sleeping (good luck with that) it wasn't as safe as I thought it would be.

Good to know - I have had a child on my lap in my manual chair when someone else was pushing me, but that was it. When my wife and I have kids, I am going to have to come up with ways of carrying them when they are small. I would never, however, put an unrestrained child on my lap when I was driving - my chair can go quite fast and I have to stop short frequently.

And to another PP - I think Disney may be cracking down shortly on passengers on the park rentals. I know I am stopping at Guest Relations and mentioning to them every time I see a problem. For example, the other day I saw two children driving the park scooter alone. A troop of about 5 adults, some with strollers, were walking behind them. The kids were hitting nearly everything in sight. There were no CMs in sight.

If we start mentioning to Guest Relations when there is a problem, they are more likely to start doing something. I don't want them to change their rules, just start enforcing the ones they have now! (As in the ones in the rental agreement every scooter renter has to sign).

 

[Talking Hands]

I think when they are very small using a wrap might be ideal. At 9mo in a front pack with the child awake and facing forward he is able to reach the controller of my Jazzy 1103. This is a small pwc.
I did see a gentleman at WDW with a car seat attached to his pwc in front of him and his infant in it. The infant faced him and was secured by the 5 pt restraint system.