Sad Story from One Who Trusted without Checking!

[robinb]

Just checked Western Union...still no money sent back to me.

Have you been in contact with her? Maybe it would be easier to go ahead with the transfer than getting blood out of a stone.

 

[Granny]

I too have been reading this thread daily, and didn't want to post in fear that I might end up throwing gasoline on the fire as Dani and Stacey work to resolve the issue.

Dani and Stacey....instead, I've edited my signature as a sign of the support of myself and all the people here on the DIS. God bless you and your families, and best wishes.

 

[dianeschlicht]

So sorry to DMKEDM, I can join you in the too trusting group of DISboarders bit in the opposite way. I rented to a disboard member who experienced hard times. After paying my 50% deposit, she asked for an extension to pay off over 8 months. This would have her paying AFTER she returned. Foolish me, didn't want to take this away from her children so I allowed it. Needless to say I was burned...now I have to file small claims court forms since the payments from July & August still isn't recieved. To the OP, don't think because your PM isn't read she isn't active. My renter won't open my PM but is posting on the boards still

Good luck

Wow! Not THAT takes guts or maybe something mored shperical in nature. Will the boards give you any help in contacting this person, or do you already have her personal information like address etc?

 

[InstImpres]

Wow! Not THAT takes guts or maybe something mored shperical in nature. Will the boards give you any help in contacting this person, or do you already have her personal information like address etc?

I have her address from her checks that she had sent. Honestly, I never contacted the boards or posted about it as I felt like a total idiot. It was my own fault for allowing it to happen...while I have extended my terms in the past, I have never allowed a renter to checkin without being paid in full. My mistake, lesson learned...back to my montra - every good dead goes punished.

 

[JandD Mom]

So sorry to DMKEDM, I can join you in the too trusting group of DISboarders bit in the opposite way. I rented to a disboard member who experienced hard times. After paying my 50% deposit, she asked for an extension to pay off over 8 months. This would have her paying AFTER she returned. Foolish me, didn't want to take this away from her children so I allowed it. Needless to say I was burned...now I have to file small claims court forms since the payments from July & August still isn't recieved. To the OP, don't think because your PM isn't read she isn't active. My renter won't open my PM but is posting on the boards still

Good luck

I hope you had a rental contract with the person, that will help you collect. It will also be easier if the person is in NJ and you don't have to try to collect the "small claim" out of state.

Please don't take my comment to be critical of you, I am not. Any of us could have been the victims of a deal gone bad like this. But after reading this thread, everyone should remember that renting points, for both tenants and owners, is a business transaction and it's best if you treat it as such. You should have some sort of agreement memorializing the deal and any deviation from the deal should throw up red flags.

I hope we ALL learn from this thread. I know I have.
Good luck!

 

[TammyAlphabet]

Best wishes to both of you and I hope this incident won't affect your opinion of the people on these boards.

 

[InstImpres]

I hope you had a rental contract with the person, that will help you collect. It will also be easier if the person is in NJ and you don't have to try to collect the "small claim" out of state.

Please don't take my comment to be critical of you, I am not. Any of us could have been the victims of a deal gone bad like this. But after reading this thread, everyone should remember that renting points, for both tenants and owners, is a business transaction and it's best if you treat it as such. You should have some sort of agreement memorializing the deal and any deviation from the deal should throw up red flags.

I hope we ALL learn from this thread. I know I have.
Good luck!

Unfortunately, I am dealing with an out of state Small Claims Court but yes I had a contract and her previous payments as well as emails of promise of payment for clarification.

I don't take your post as critical of me or the OP. I think we both admit, we were taken. Yes, a red flag went up, in my situation unlike the OP, I had a 6 month relationship with my renter and had spoken with her about 4 times. I let the human and compassion eliminate over take the business side and red flag.

Lesson learned

 

[JandD Mom]

Lesson learned

It's really unfortunate that a few bad apples spoil the compassion that is exhibited by so many here.

I hope you collect from your renter.

 

[ZipaDeeDooDah]

I don't take your post as critical of me or the OP. I think we both admit, we were taken. Yes, a red flag went up, in my situation unlike the OP, I had a 6 month relationship with my renter and had spoken with her about 4 times. I let the human and compassion eliminate over take the business side and red flag.

Aw man, I am sorry you got burned trying to do a nice thing. Is there a chance that it is the same person that the OP is dealing with?

Dani and Stacey, I am still thinking of you both today!

 

[JimMIA]

I've stated a few times I hope it gets resolved. I sincerely do. Unfortunately, it boils down to more than hoping. It requires a deliberate act on the PP's part. Just as it was a deliberate act to take the money from both of you. She should communicate with you both and have a plan to make things right. She should turn this thing around. No matter how bad things are/were for her, doing something like this will only make it worse.

I agree with this, and not just because it's the right thing to do...or it's the legal thing to do...or because it would make Dani and Stacy whole.

Most importantly, she should start working to resolve this because it is in her own best interests to do so.

If she looks honestly at her situation and options, she knows it is in her best interest to get this fixed ASAP and move on with her life. If she wants to work this out, I'm sure others will work with her to ensure that it gets resolved without anyone getting hurt.

I don't think this will be difficult or painful to fix if she wants to, but it's her choice.

 

[InstImpres]

Is there a chance that it is the same person that the OP is dealing with?

Different bad apple, I believe the OP was dealing with someone in NY and my person was in RI.

2 bad apples didn't spoil the bunch...still love the rest of you and spending my days on the Dis

 

[DMKEDM]

Sympathy to you, Instimpres!

And to Tammy Alphabet, this experience has absolutely affected my opinion of the people on these boards...I think the great big majority are WONDERFUL people who personify the "magic"...and I'd never have known that w/out this painful experience...

Thank you, all, and Instimpres, you have my best wishes and tons of pixie dust as you wend your way thru your process towards a resolution!

 

[JimMIA]

Different bad apple, I believe the OP was dealing with someone in NY

That's correct. The person involved in this thread lives in NY.

 

[Lewisc]

I have her address from her checks that she had sent. Honestly, I never contacted the boards or posted about it as I felt like a total idiot. It was my own fault for allowing it to happen...while I have extended my terms in the past, I have never allowed a renter to checkin without being paid in full. My mistake, lesson learned...back to my montra - every good dead goes punished.

Letting her cancel and giving her a full refund would have been very generous. Trying to reduce the reservation to make it affordable, reduce the size of the unit or reduce the number of nights, would have been very generous. Both options may have left you with extra points.

Letting them pay after they got back was over the line but, given a good story, some of us may have done the same thing.

That's one of the advantages of accepting credit cards, even through pay pal. It makes no sense to extend terms if the customer doesn't have enough available credit to pay you.

 

[InstImpres]

That's one of the advantages of accepting credit cards, even through pay pal. It makes no sense to extend terms if the customer doesn't have enough available credit to pay you.

Be careful, with a paypal credit card transaction, a person could fight the charge with the CC company and have it overturned. There are many stories of this on the budget board (not DVC related). To me the risk is high on that. JMHO

 

[Patty3]

I am so sorry that you have yet to received your money back.

 

[Anjelica]

as to what, if anything can be done to prevent this "bad apple" of a renter from renting on these boards? I mean what recourses in terms of making sure this particular person is never allowed on these boards again can be used?

I am not that familiar with what it takes to get banned from these boards so I am not sure if this person has crossed any of those lines. But I would highly recommend that even with her horrible communication skills that should be enough to ban this person?

I guess I look at this is no different than any other business transaction - why would I continue to go back or allow this person to do business when they aren't sufficient?

 

[JimMIA]

as to what, if anything can be done to prevent this "bad apple" of a renter from renting on these boards? I mean what recourses in terms of making sure this particular person is never allowed on these boards again can be used?

I am not that familiar with what it takes to get banned from these boards so I am not sure if this person has crossed any of those lines. But I would highly recommend that even with her horrible communication skills that should be enough to ban this person?

I guess I look at this is no different than any other business transaction - why would I continue to go back or allow this person to do business when they aren't sufficient?

If you read the DIS R/T guidelines, you'll see that the R/T board is a free service the DIS provides to its members. They make it quite clear that all transactions are strictly between the parties involved and the DIS will not be involved in any disputes.

In the particular cases of Dani and Stacey, I believe Doc posted earlier that he had reviewed the threads and found no violation of DIS posting policies, and therefore no action was warranted at that time.

Doc also took the unusual step of contacting the person who rented to Dani and Stacey and she promised to contact them and resolve the issue. She has not done so.

(As I said on the previous page -- before we wandered off topic -- I am hopeful she will realize it is in her best interests to resolve this, but that remains to be seen.)

Doc has really done everything we could expect, and a lot more.

I don't think it is realistic to expect the DIS to ban someone because there was a dispute with a rental. Nor is it possible for the DIS to become an investigative body or arbitration board.

WE are responsible for protecting ourselves in rental transactions, not the DIS.

 

[JandD Mom]

Be careful, with a paypal credit card transaction, a person could fight the charge with the CC company and have it overturned. There are many stories of this on the budget board (not DVC related). To me the risk is high on that. JMHO

They could fight it, but if you have signed agreement that they are agreeing to pay X for a rental of Y# points, and you specify when the rental will be, and then they actually show up, I can't imagine the credit transaction will be cancelled.

I have had fights with my own credit card companies over legitimate problems and I have had a hard time getting them to refund me anything. Sometimes they do, but other times they don't.

 

[JandD Mom]

That's one of the advantages of accepting credit cards, even through pay pal. It makes no sense to extend terms if the customer doesn't have enough available credit to pay you.

Lewis, that's an excellent point!