Sad Story from One Who Trusted without Checking!

[Disneyhappy]

I have not read through the whole post but if there is still any suspicion that this person is a scammer (and based on my experience in dealing with fraud), you need to contact the police as the longer you wait, the colder the trail becomes. Also, I am pretty sure that most ,if not all, Western Unions have surveillance cameras but they may recycle every day, other day, weekly, monthly, etc. Sounds like you are able to pinpoint the exact time of the transaction so the woman would be easy to pick out on the surveillance video footage. That is more evidence for the police but it could be gone if you do not act quickly. The police should have a separate unit or referral for internet related fraud. In fact, it might be regulated by the Federal Government. I'll have to ask my next door neighbor who is an FBI agent. My niece was taken in by a similar, but more sophisticated, scam and did not have as many leads that the victims on this thread may have. My stomach literally feels ill when I read about this stuff happening to trusting people like the great DIS posters we have here. I wish you the best of luck that everything works out but, please take action to protect other unsuspecting victims.

 

[JimMIA]

I wonder if JimMIA would recommend taking additional steps at this point?

Yes, but this is not the forum for discussing them.

 

[Slakk]

I have nothing really to add but to tell both parties how incredibly sorry I am and how I really hope that things work out. I wish I had extra points for you both - this is so sad.

 

[jade1]

Just read the Vogel, hold my hand post and then you will know "she who must not be named" is.

I just checked the "Lets see what you fellow DVCers look like" thread, but no luck.

 

[jekjones1558]

PP = Problematic Person (suggested in a earlier post in this thread).

Like many of you I have followed this thread very carefully. I have sent prayers for both of the 2 (at least) innocent DISers who are are suffering because they do not know how/when/if their transactions will be resolved satisfactorily in the end. I have also sent prayers for "PP" because I choose to believe that her life is in a huge mess. Some or all or none of her medical, housing, employment and personal issues may be of her own making. But I have not walked in her shoes and hope that I never will. I know that some of the worst messes I have dealt with in my life were my own fault and I am eternally grateful to friends and family who stood by me. My prayers for "PP" are that someone in her life will recognize her predicament and care enough about her to step forward and help her get her life back in control. If that happens then hopefully the 2 DISers who are currently paying a financial and emotional price will also get some relief. I will keep praying for everyone in this mess.

 

[wdwstar]

PP = problematic person

 

[dumbo71]

Yes, but this is not the forum for discussing them.

I agree and I'm not suggesting we go there. Just curious if your advice had changed after Monday came and went.

Thanks

 

[CinderellaIam]

Wow, been wartching this thread on and off for the past two days hoping to see some resolution. So sorry that this has not been resolved both for the op and for Stacey. Hopefully tomorrow will bring some news and $$ for them both.

 

[kidsister]

Member services will now only speak to the owner of the points about a reservation. They will not talk to the renter and they will not talk to another owner.

Actually, as a member I can call and ask about any ressie whose ressie number I have. I always send my renters a confirm of their ressie which has a lot of info on it, often including the owners name and address. First I would call and ask about one of my own upcoming ressies and then I'd just ask for a double check of my friend's ressie. I usually get very chatty with the CMs and I don't think there would be any problem with finding out if the ressie exists.

As for the 3 party call...ressies doesn't even have to know that there is another person on the line, but in the past they have been completely ok with having another person on the line IF the owner chooses to let them know that there is one there. For a transfer, it is even more likely that Disney WANTS the other owner on the line...and that is the reason that the 3 party call for the transfer lets OP know right away if the PP is a fraud or not.

 

[robinb]

Actually, as a member I can call and ask about any ressie whose ressie number I have.

Not true. I tried for Stacey earlier today and they would not tell me anything. Of course, I was 100% up-front with what I was asking.

 

[dianeschlicht]

I hope Dani and Stacy are getting their ducks in a row and getting this taken care of. Hopefully they will both come back in a week and tell us it's all fixed!

 

[OceanAnnie]

The whole situation is just terrible! I do hope both the OP and Stacey get their money back. I bet Pete would provide the police with the PP's IP address. That would help to get all the information that is needed to take it to the next level.

Good luck OP & Stacey!

 

[JimMIA]

I agree and I'm not suggesting we go there. Just curious if your advice had changed after Monday came and went.

Not on Monday, but certainly yesterday, yes.

I don't know what the original intent was, but when I saw that she had canceled Stacy's paid-in-full ressie because Stacy "called her too many times" trying to verify her two young children's WDW vacation, it became pretty apparent what this person's intent is NOW.

And that changes the whole ballgame.

*****
On another note, I can tell you that the tremendous outpouring of concern and support for Stacy and Dani on this board has been very heartwarming for both of them and they really appreciate it.

 

[sajetto]

I'm still holding out hope for both of you. I don't know what threads other posters are referring to, but just from the tone of what's being posted I don't have a good feeling about this renter. I sincerely hope I'm wrong and I'm wishing you the best of luck that this all gets settled

 

[JandD Mom]

Not on Monday, but certainly yesterday, yes.

I don't know what the original intent was, but when I saw that she had canceled Stacy's paid-in-full ressie because Stacy "called her too many times" trying to verify her two young children's WDW vacation, it became pretty apparent what this person's intent is NOW.

And that changes the whole ballgame.

*****
On another note, I can tell you that the tremendous outpouring of concern and support for Stacy and Dani on this board has been very heartwarming for both of them and they really appreciate it.

Go get her Jim!!!!!

 

[JimMIA]

Go get her Jim!!!!!

I'm not getting anyone.

And this isn't really about that. It's about making things right, and I hope she and her aunt make things right for these two unfortunate victims.

 

[JandD Mom]

I'm not getting anyone.

And this isn't really about that. It's about making things right, and I hope she and her aunt make things right for these two unfortunate victims.

Yes, it is about making things right. Sometimes there needs to be intervention to make things right. And in this case, I think it is certainly about that.

 

[wdwstar]

I think what JandD Mom meant, we are standing behind you both & JimMia 100% with all the support and comfort we can offer

Hang in there, we are here for you

 

[wirki]

I have been watching this tread since the begining. I have to say that my heart is breaking for the OP and Stacy. I can not believe that this is happening. We are getting ready to purchase our DVC tomorrow and this has really gotten too me. Not to change my mind, but to be moe careful. Are hard lesson for anyone, but unfortunatly at your expense. I hope you get everything fixed!!

Debbie

 

[cncDisney4]

Not much on this I can say except the OP and Stacy are in my prayers and, of course, that all turns out well for everyone involved!