DIS Dads Rust Belt Road Trip (2 UPDATES--1/18)

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That is a great picture of you and Julie at the waterfront :thumbsup2

I will have to agree with you when it comes to sticking to a menu item and going with it...I always try to venture out and most of the time end up a little disappointed...and DF has to share whatever he picked :lmao:

Sorry we missed saying Happy Birthday!!! :cool1: Have a great Thanksgiving today :goodvibes
 
Hooray for Ice Cream Dinner!!!

As for your choice of flavors, you mean to tell me there are more choices than Vanilla or Choclate? :scared1:

I dunno. My choice was basically chocolate and vanilla combined. :thumbsup2

Also, given that your kids still have all their limbs in tact I think makes them super heroes given the various swimming venues you've mentioned on this trip. (I'm still baffled about the lack of a third eye from Lake Michigan).

Well, give it time. It might not show up right away. I wonder if that's covered in our vision insurance.

Great update and I'm looking forward to the next installment.

Thanks!

It ain't vacation if you don't jump on the furniture in the hotel room!

:woohoo: We drove our neighbors in Chicago nuts with that trick! :thumbsup2

Great plan!


D'Oh!!

Story of my life.

I can see that Sarah is visibly upset about that warning.

She said the water didn't feel any heavier.


At least they weren't swimming in the dreaded dihydrogen oxide. :scared1:

Good call... if there are no ill-effects noted on Wikipedia, it must be safe. :lmao::rotfl2:

Works for me! :thumbsup2

The bridges look better when they're all open.:headache:

I'm sure you can find somebody to blame for that. :rolleyes:

Mmmmmmmmmmmm...... Graeters!:goodvibes

Yeah, it was tasty.

Really??? I thought engineers were supposed to always be looking for ways to improve something even if it ain't broke? Or are DOT engineers excluded from that theory? :confused3 :lmao:

Actually, it's the opposite. We spend all our time explaining why things are actually working better than you think they are, and that just because you had to wait 2 minutes at a red light, it doesn't mean traffic is "awful".

Heck, that's more adventurous than me. I like just good, plain old chocolate. Once in a while I'll get peanut butter and chocolate ice cream, but most of the time I just want chocolate.

Peanut butter?! :eek: Oh, you mean actual peanut butter? ;)

Wow... that's quite an accomplishment. You must have stolen Barry's minivan to make all that happen.:rotfl:

Nah, Barry had that thing locked up tight. He was mumbling something about "my precious" as well. :confused3
 
Reminds me of these kids in the room next to us this one time we stayed in Chicago....

You heard them too? Bunch of punks.

I should just wander around the nation, planting "Barry slept here" signs on random motels. Just to see where you go on your next road trip. :thumbsup2

Forget that, we're heading to Racine!

Yeah, but it's bats, as in the flying mammal. Any similarity to a trademarked wooden sporting equipment manufacturer is purely intentional.

Riiiiiiiight.

Occupy Louisville?

Nobody seemed upset about anything. Maybe Louisville protesters are more polite.

Sure, but look on the bright side. It will be that much awesomer when you come back.

:thumbsup2

Where was this? East or West of the closed splash area?

This was west, fairly close to the baseball stadium. It's listed as "Dancing Waters" and "Water Feature" on the left side of the map:

http://www.louisvillewaterfront.com/documents/2011_park_map.pdf


Jack Frost nipping at your nose, Norm?

Be careful what your wish for. Super Whining is a power too...

Ugh. That's for super-villains.

Crud. You took my comment. :headache:

:woohoo:

Honestly, every time I think I have a clear winner in the "Favorite Oblivious Kid" race, another one does something like this and shoots into the lead.

You still owe Scotty an Aaron Rodgers jersey.

Oh, and what is this? Posting an update on the Wednesday before Thanksgiving? Are you trying to keep this stuff a secret? :confused3
:rotfl2:

It was the afternoon of the day before Thanksgiving. Things finally settled down enough for me to be able to do an update.

(cue state worker jokes in 3...2...1...)
 

Mark, I cannot think of a better dinner than "ice cream" while on vacation.

Great update and photos.

Happy Thanksgiving to you, Julie and the kids.

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Thanks Kathy! Hope you had a great Thanksgiving as well!

:rotfl2: Keep watching - It may still happen! :rotfl2: The super powers that is - not the lost limbs!

I'd say we have a 50/50 shot of either one happening.

Those pictures of your kids in the water are adorable! That looks like a really fun place to swim, Hydrogen warning signs and all.

Gorgeous waterfront.

Thanks! We had a great time.

So glad you got to meet Norm and get another DIS meet under your belt.

:thumbsup2

Beautiful pictures!

I almost forgot - Happy Birthday and I hope you all have a wonderful Thanksgiving!

Thank you on both counts! I hope you had a great one as well!

That is a great picture of you and Julie at the waterfront :thumbsup2

I will have to agree with you when it comes to sticking to a menu item and going with it...I always try to venture out and most of the time end up a little disappointed...and DF has to share whatever he picked :lmao:

Sorry we missed saying Happy Birthday!!! :cool1: Have a great Thanksgiving today :goodvibes

Thank you! Glad to hear I'm not the only non-adventurous eater around.

Nice update, Mark!

Thanks Doc! Glad to have you back aboard!
 
Mark, I just read about your visit to the baseball bat factory. What an amazing visit! Obviously I know very little about baseball since it isn't played here, but I found it very interesting. Somehow it seems that there is a slight sports theme to this trip??? ;) I hope to catch up soon to the end, but wanted to leave a comment on what I read so far.

I also loved all the pictures from Chicago, it seems to be a fascinating city.
 
Mark, I just read about your visit to the baseball bat factory. What an amazing visit! Obviously I know very little about baseball since it isn't played here, but I found it very interesting. Somehow it seems that there is a slight sports theme to this trip??? ;) I hope to catch up soon to the end, but wanted to leave a comment on what I read so far.

I also loved all the pictures from Chicago, it seems to be a fascinating city.

Welcome back Magdalene! :cool1:

Thanks for reading and checking in. We definitely did quite a bit of sports-themed activities on this trip. At times, I thought we might be heavy on the sports stuff, but Julie insisted that we go. ;)

Chicago is an amazing city. Lots of character (and characters), lots of things to see.
 
After another pleasant night in the Country Inn, the plan for the morning was to go on a Wilderness Expedition. We'd seen plenty of cities and sports destinations. Time to change things up a bit.

We were heading south to Mammoth Cave National Park. We had a fairly leisurely morning--we'd scheduled a 10:30 a.m. tour. But Mammoth Cave is on Central Time, while Louisville is in the Eastern Time Zone. So the plan for the morning was to leave the hotel by 9:30 for the 2-hour drive to make our 10:30 tour.

About 3/4 of the way to the park, we crossed the line and went back in time.

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Whoa, I guess we overshot there. We readjusted the flux capacitor and made it to Mammoth Cave in about an hour and a half.

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The park, like a lot of the big national parks, is popular, so the only way to enter the cave is to sign up for one of the various guided tours that are offered. The tours vary in length from an hour to all-day hikes. Obviously some are better for smaller children, and the more rigorous ones are restricted to adults, can involve miles of walking and even some crawls through very tight spaces. Sort of like trying to find the Christmas decorations in the basement.

We had signed up for the Frozen Niagara Tour, which was a 2-hour hike through what most accounts said was one of the prettier parts of the cave.

We checked in at the visitor center and got our tour tickets. Then I was asked to go over to another ranger station. Seems there was an outbreak of White Nose Syndrome among the bat populations around the United States. I have no idea what that is, other than it's fatal to bats. If anyone had been in another cave in the last 2 years and was wearing the same shoes, they had to go to the Ranger station for "treatment". :scared1:

Well, I had been in Luray Caverns in Virginia in April of 2010, and I had no idea if they were the same shoes or not, but I figured I probably shouldn't chance it. So, the Rangers put me through a highly complex scientific process of...

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...soaking my shoes in Lysol for 5 minutes.

With that done, we boarded the (non-air-conditioned) bus to take us to our three--sorry, two hour tour.

Mammoth Cave is the longest cave system in the world, at 392 miles mapped (and counting). It was first discovered and used by Native Americans as a shelter, with European settlers stumbling upon the site around 1797. Tours have been offered since 1816, making it one of the U.S.'s oldest tourist attractions, but it wasn't designated as a National Park until 1941.

The Park Ranger leading our tour (I forget his name. Let's call him Walker) led us off the buses and down to the New Entrance. As opposed to the Historic Entrance, which is much closer to the visitor center.

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It was yet another blazing hot day--temps would approach 100 degrees. Yet we were carrying sweatshirts, because the temperature inside the cave was a crisp 54 degrees. With a few last words of warning about tight spaces, climbing down stairs, steep drop-offs, etc., we were on our way in.

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I thought the Expedition Everest shirt was appropriate for exploring a cave.

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We had to climb down about 250 steps or so to get down into the cave. This involved quite a few switchbacks, catwalks and bridges over long drops. I know what you're thinking--this is the dope who can't stand the Tower of Terror, surely he couldn't handle that walk!

Well, I could handle it. And don't call me Shirley. In fact, I thought it was cool. See, I don't mind heights at all--as long as I'm not falling from them.

Once we'd climbed down all the stairs, we hiked through various tunnels and passageways.

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It was awesome!

The kids did really well. Sarah and Dave thought it was cool right off the bat and had a blast. Scotty had to warm up to it--he was scared of the dark areas at first. But to his credit, he didn't whine or complain, and eventually started enjoying himself.

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Walker, Park Ranger was a very informative guide. He took us into one room called Grand Central Station due to the fact that it was a large high-ceilinged area where 5 different tunnels merged. In another, he gave us an idea of what the words pitch-black truly mean by shutting off the lights in the cave. When people say they couldn't see their hand in front of their face--well, that was literally the case here.

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The last stop on the tour was a formation called Frozen Niagara. It gets its name from the way the rock appears to be a sheet of ice flowing over the edge of a crevice. I tried to get a decent picture, but the flash was washing it out, and we didn't have our tripod. So it came out somewhat blurry. You can still somewhat make out the effect, though.

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Below the formation was the Drapery Room, where quite a few stalactites and stalagmites had formed. Walker was nice enough to take our picture there.

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Not that you can see anything with the flash on, of course. :headache:

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There, that's better.

When all was said and done, we'd hiked about 3/4 of a mile. Which means we only have 391 1/4 miles of cave left to see! :woohoo:

It was a bit of a drag to emerge back into the cramped buses and 100-degree heat. Thankfully, the drive back to the visitor center was brief. When we disembarked, everyone had to walk on a Bio-Mat*, once again protecting against White Nose Syndrome.

*carpet soaked in Lysol

Scotty fell in love at the visitor center with the National Park Service's Official Stuffed Animal©, Buddy Bison:

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We were back to our Official Road Trip Lunch® of PB&J and cheeseballs. As we dined in the parking lot, we wandered over to an exhibit showing one of the old Mammoth Cave trains that used to shuttle visitors between Park City and the visitor center.

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We enjoyed the tour so much we wanted to spend more time wandering the cave. There is one self-guided "Historic Tour" that you don't need to sign up ahead of time to do. Unfortunately, the rangers said it was "not running" that day. I wasn't sure why that was the case, but it was a mild disappointment. In any case, we thought the cave was a pretty amazing place to explore. It was well worth the visit.

Coming Up Next: Time out for history and Rocky Balboa. And the 3 sweetest letters in the English alphabet.
 
Very cool indeed! I love going down into caves, even though they scare me just a tiny bit! :eek::laughing: What happens to visitors who don't know they need to sign up for one of the tours? Too bad you couldn't go on the second tour.

Some of those spaces look pretty tight. I was in the caverns at natural bridge two summers ago and they did the turn out the light trick. I absolutely hated it. It was the longest 10 or 15 seconds in my life. That's what it must be like to be buried alive. :scared1: Ok, that's a gruesome thought, but you know what I mean.

Great family shot!
 
I have to post one more time to say - this is the oddest thing. The time on your clock is 2:37 instead of 1:37 so what I just posted went BEFORE your update! :rotfl: That is wild. I'll have to come back and move it later. :confused3
 
If my hunch is correct, this post will appear above your Mammoth Cave entry since there is a major time-warp issue on the DIS today. If so, i'll come back later after you have posted your most excellent entry and make witty and sarcastic remarks.

Edited to Add: Yup, I was right.
 
If my hunch is correct, this post will appear above your Mammoth Cave entry since there is a major time-warp issue on the DIS today. If so, i'll come back later after you have posted your most excellent entry and make witty and sarcastic remarks.

Edited to Add: Yup, I was right.


And I thought I was the only one who was losing my mind! :rotfl: Or maybe we are both just psychic since we already know what the next update says!
 
If my hunch is correct, this post will appear above your Mammoth Cave entry since there is a major time-warp issue on the DIS today. If so, i'll come back later after you have posted your most excellent entry and make witty and sarcastic remarks.

Edited to Add: Yup, I was right.

And I thought I was the only one who was losing my mind! :rotfl: Or maybe we are both just psychic since we already know what the next update says!

No idea what's causing this, other than possibly a black hole forming over the eastern half of the U.S. But considering the update involves time travel, it seems appropriate. :thumbsup2
 
After another pleasant night in the Country Inn, the plan for the morning was to go on a Wilderness Expedition. We'd seen plenty of cities and sports destinations. Time to change things up a bit.
The wilderness must be explored! CA-CA! RAAWWRR!

We were heading south to Mammoth Cave National Park. We had a fairly leisurely morning--we'd scheduled a 10:30 a.m. tour. But Mammoth Cave is on Central Time, while Louisville is in the Eastern Time Zone. So the plan for the morning was to leave the hotel by 9:30 for the 2-hour drive to make our 10:30 tour.
I blame you for all the funky time problems on the DIS this morning.


Whoa, I guess we overshot there. We readjusted the flux capacitor and made it to Mammoth Cave in about an hour and a half.
I think you should have taken that left turn in Albuquerque.
Obviously some are better for smaller children, and the more rigorous ones are restricted to adults, can involve miles of walking and even some crawls through very tight spaces.
Which is odd, because the kids can fit through those tight spaces easier. :confused3

We had signed up for the Frozen Niagara Tour, which was a 2-hour hike through what most accounts said was one of the prettier parts of the cave.
Are you sure you did the Frozen Niagara Tour? :confused3
(Look at that, I wasn't even on this part of the trip and I found a mistake!)

Well, I had been in Luray Caverns in Virginia in April of 2010, and I had no idea if they were the same shoes or not, but I figured I probably shouldn't chance it. So, the Rangers put me through a highly complex scientific process of...

...soaking my shoes in Lysol for 5 minutes.
Are you sure it was that, or did one of the rangers get a whiff of those things and just want you to stand in the Lysol?


Mammoth Cave is the longest cave system in the world, at 392 miles mapped (and counting). It was first discovered and used by Native Americans as a shelter, with European settlers stumbling upon the site around 1797. Tours have been offered since 1816, making it one of the U.S.'s oldest tourist attractions, but it wasn't designated as a National Park until 1941.
Oooo....history lesson. :thumbsup2

The Park Ranger leading our tour (I forget his name. Let's call him Walker)
Uh oh. I think I know what's coming...

led us off the buses and down to the New Entrance. As opposed to the Historic Entrance, which is much closer to the visitor center.
Did you take the walk down to the Historic Entrance and feel the rush of cold air? That was totally awesome! (Unless you didn't do it, then it was just OK and you didn't really miss much. :rolleyes1)

I thought the Expedition Everest shirt was appropriate for exploring a cave.
:thumbsup2

We had to climb down about 250 steps or so to get down into the cave.
I was a bit underwhelmed with the entrances to the cave. Small cinder block buildings with a padlocked steel door. The historical entrance is cool, though.

The kids did really well. Sarah and Dave thought it was cool right off the bat and had a blast. Scotty had to warm up to it
:rotfl2::lmao::rotfl:

But to his credit, he didn't whine or complain, and eventually started enjoying himself.
Nice Job Scotty! Aaron Rodgers would be proud. :thumbsup2

Walker, Park Ranger
...and there it is.
:sad2:

In another, he gave us an idea of what the words pitch-black truly mean by shutting off the lights in the cave. When people say they couldn't see their hand in front of their face--well, that was literally the case here.
Pictures or it didn't happen.

We were back to our Official Road Trip Lunch® of PB&J and cheeseballs.
We had a picnic lunch there too. As I sat at the picnic table, I realized that there was a giant hole somewhere under our table. And our van. And us. Weird.

We enjoyed the tour so much we wanted to spend more time wandering the cave. There is one self-guided "Historic Tour" that you don't need to sign up ahead of time to do. Unfortunately, the rangers said it was "not running" that day. I wasn't sure why that was the case, but it was a mild disappointment.
The self guided tour wasn't running? What, did the tour guide call in sick?

No idea what's causing this, other than possibly a black hole forming over the eastern half of the U.S. But considering the update involves time travel, it seems appropriate. :thumbsup2
Maybe we can blame the Eagle's problem on it too...
 
Cool! I visited Mammoth Caves back when I was about Sarah's age and remember Grand Central Station and the whole turning the lights out / hand in front of your face thing. And back then, Walker had only recently earned his black belt. :rolleyes:
 
No idea what's causing this, other than possibly a black hole forming over the eastern half of the U.S. But considering the update involves time travel, it seems appropriate. :thumbsup2

Very appropriate. I was kind of wondering how you did that! :rotfl:
 














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