Rumors & Confirmations

[Cruising Girl]

I have east bound panama canal next October on the Magic!!

 

[Intr3pid]

Well, #2 and #3 aren't worth a comment for how ridiculous they are - but Japan is very doable.

A number of ships spend time between Alaska in the northern summer and Australia/NZ in the northern winter. The way they pull it off is by repositioning in the shoulder months.

In one direction, the path is US west coast >> Hawaii >> French Polynesia >> Australia. In the other direction, the path is Australia >> Singapore >> HK >> Japan >> Alaska.

While in Japan, the ship will home port out of Tokyo for a month or so before making the long trek to Alaska.

That said, Wonder is headed into dry dock next fall (2023). Doubt they can rope in Australia soon. More likely for 2024.

 

[happycamper47]

I have east bound panama canal next October on the Magic!!

See you there...

 

[John VN]

Not from a CM, have no dogs or uncles however we once stayed at a Holiday Inn Express and our latest cruise BUTLER mentioned he had some guests asking lots of questions about how the ships were able to stay overnight at their Island and if passengers liked it. He also mentioned that they ordered lots of cheese platters.

Overnight stays at CC ???

 

[ruadisneyfan2]

See you there...

Me too!

If I can save up enough vacation time. Saving time has been a challenge lately.

ETA: Wait, isnt Oct a Westbound PC? We prefer to turn the clocks back as we sail west, rather than turning clocks forward sailing east.

 

[Snowwhyt]

Thy weren't always moving, they dropped anchor right off shore. You could see them from the beach at Jetty Park for days at a time. This was June of 2020.


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Don’t one or more of DCL ships have that ability to hover in place by using longitude and latitude? Kinda give up the Anchoring requirement? I swear I was at one port and someone explain the engine noise was to accomplish perfect position.

 

[happycamper47]

They have used the aft side thrusters to help hold position when in a tender port, but they still drop the anchor on the bow. There is no way to hold the ship in one spot since there is no prop on the bow to counteract the rear prop, only side thrusters,

 

[ruadisneyfan2]

They have used the aft side thrusters to help hold position when in a tender port, but they still drop the anchor on the bow. There is no way to hold the ship in one spot since there is no prop on the bow to counteract the rear prop, only side thrusters,

Yes, but props can spin the opposite direction to move in reverse.

 

[happycamper47]

Yes, but props can spin the opposite direction to move in reverse.

Then the ship would move backwards if the anchor wasn't out. She said she was told they could sit in one spot using the engines with no anchor.

 

[ruadisneyfan2]

Then the ship would move backwards if the anchor wasn't out. She said she was told they could sit in one spot using the engines with no anchor.

Exactly. I'm not saying they can or they can't but it makes sense that a ship could move in any direction to adjust for whichever way the current is moving the ship. You don't need a prop on the bow to move in reverse. GPS would be telling it which way to move. Like a virtual anchor.
I'd guess that uses more fuel and they would prefer to just drop anchor.

 

[John VN]

Then the ship would move backwards if the anchor wasn't out. She said she was told they could sit in one spot using the engines with no anchor.

Ships employing AZIPOD Units instead of the old engine + shaft to prop with rudder. PODS with thrusters and GPS can keep ships very stationary.

https://new.abb.com/marine/systems-and-solutions/azipod

 

[happycamper47]

Ships employing AZIPOD Units instead of the old engine + shaft to prop with rudder. PODS with thrusters and GPS can keep ships very stationary.

https://new.abb.com/marine/systems-and-solutions/azipod

The WISH yes not the other 4.

 

[iannovich]

I stayed on the Queen Mary docked in Long Beach 25 years ago. It was kind of fun, a little eerie. But I have read that the ship is in bad shape now (the hull) from just sitting in salt water all these years and not going into drydock, etc. Because it doen't have to GO anywhere, I think they thought it would be fine just floating. It's like the planes that were out of commission during Covid. You can't just park a plane long term and let it sit. It has to be serviced.

The companies managing the Queen Mary over the years have been notoriously bad at upkeep and have even squandered funds aimed at helping save her. And somewhere along the line someone thought it would be a grand idea to cut a big hole in the hull so that you could see the propellers from inside. Their neglect has compromised the integrity of the ship. I think Disney could learn from those mistakes...

 

[auntlynne]

Love these! Rumors aren’t supposed to be true, are they? Sort of like playing gossip / telephone. But maybe a grain of truth thrown in.

If you take out the assumption that we aren’t talking immediate action, I could believe situations somewhat related to these. Just for fun:

1. Australia. There’s a fairly significant cruise industry there. P&O, Royal C., companies we don’t recognize. Sail up to Singapore Or start there. Disney Parks are in Tokyo (2) and Shanghai - and Hong Kong? During the year, do runs from various home ports. It’s not like just doing an Alaskan season - more like the move over to the West Coast on the Wonder - for a while Vancouver, then San Diego. Australian summers aren’t the same months as Japan, right?

Visit Hawaii and see the number of Asians on vacation. Airline carriers do not have to fly Americans & Canadians to these ports of embarkation. There are lots of people in the Eastern hemisphere who live closer.

2. Per the Meyer Werft corporate website regarding Disney’s Triton-class ships: “ The two other ships in the Triton Class will be delivered by MEYER WERFT in 2024 and 2025.“. Wasn’t “next year” the original schedule before Covid? So close to reality - Obviously didn’t come from the dog.

3. Magic Hotel? I’m guessing it moves over to cover the sailings in Whatever destination is chosen in Item #1. Then sold to a low-cost cruise line serving Europe or Asia, following in footsteps (wake) of old Celebrity or Royal C ships.

DCL to Bermuda was a rumor / request talked about at Castaway Club reception in 2007. Years later, it’s a reality. We shall see if Disney goes Down Under or challenges the Queen Mary in years to come. Pretty sure they are getting a second Triton-class boat fairly soon, though.

 

[Snowwhyt]

Then the ship would move backwards if the anchor wasn't out. She said she was told they could sit in one spot using the engines with no anchor.

I might have misunderstand too. So can ships stay at port with an anchor but not remain tied? Did the Disney ships have that capability or am I thinking of other ships.

 

[Kwami]

1. Australia. There’s a fairly significant cruise industry there. P&O, Royal C., companies we don’t recognize. Sail up to Singapore Or start there. Disney Parks are in Tokyo (2) and Shanghai - and Hong Kong? During the year, do runs from various home ports. It’s not like just doing an Alaskan season - more like the move over to the West Coast on the Wonder - for a while Vancouver, then San Diego. Australian summers aren’t the same months as Japan, right?

Japan is nowhere near Australia, though. Sailing from Sydney to Tokyo would take at least two weeks with few stops. And as you said, Japan's summers don't align with Australia's summers. April is a great time to visit Japan, though, because of the cherry blossoms. I guess Disney could keep a ship in Australia until mid-March, then move over to Tokyo for the month of April. The ship couldn't stay too long, though, since it'll take another few weeks to get over to Vancouver for the Alaska cruise season.

Sailing to Hong Kong or Shanghai isn't likely, either. They're far away, China requires visas for most of Disney's audience, and at least for the foreseeable future, they aren't allowing in tourists, anyway.

 

[JM_97]

I'd be shocked if the Magic is retired and turned into a hotel within the next few years. It's older but unlike the ships that Carnival retired last year, it's still in good shape - at least from all the reports I've heard.

 

[happycamper47]

Japan is nowhere near Australia, though. Sailing from Sydney to Tokyo would take at least two weeks with few stops.

We did it in 7 days with Uncle Sams Navy, but then we refueled and loaded provisions while underway. Long ride..

 

[auntlynne]

Japan is nowhere near Australia, though. Sailing from Sydney to Tokyo would take at least two weeks with few stops. And as you said, Japan's summers don't align with Australia's summers. April is a great time to visit Japan, though, because of the cherry blossoms. I guess Disney could keep a ship in Australia until mid-March, then move over to Tokyo for the month of April. The ship couldn't stay too long, though, since it'll take another few weeks to get over to Vancouver for the Alaska cruise season.

Sailing to Hong Kong or Shanghai isn't likely, either. They're far away, China requires visas for most of Disney's audience, and at least for the foreseeable future, they aren't allowing in tourists, anyway.

Yep, lots of long stretches of ocean. I remember that NZ and Australia appear close, but are 1200 or 1800 miles apart.

Spread out, but possible for a repositioning or Grand Voyage. A once in a lifetime cruise on the Magic. I’m thinking outside the box. Because we keep sailing around in these same boxes with only a few tweaks now and then. A girl can dream. It wasn’t my dog who started this one. It was my cat, just after he toyed (tortured) a Mouse.

 

[JM_97]

Yep, lots of long stretches of ocean. I remember that NZ and Australia appear close, but are 1200 or 1800 miles apart.

Spread out, but possible for a repositioning or Grand Voyage. A once in a lifetime cruise on the Magic. I’m thinking outside the box. Because we keep sailing around in these same boxes with only a few tweaks now and then. A girl can dream. It wasn’t my dog who started this one. It was my cat, just after he toyed (tortured) a Mouse.

It would be on the Wonder (not that it makes a huge difference)