Rumor about “modified experiences” when Disney reopens (read 1st post for potential modifications being considered)

[gottalovepluto]

https://blogmickey.com/2020/05/dini...ry-to-disney-springs-during-phased-reopening/

I think that’s the most practical way to manage it. Disney doesn’t have access to 3rd party reservation data. It also seems the most fair to tenants, otherwise restaurants take all the potential slots leaving non-TS with no business.

 

[KBoopaloo]

The rest will just head to FoP.

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I was at Disney until 3/4 when things were just getting dicey here and each time I rode FOP someone would shout a variation of “It’s corona!” during the preshow decontamination. Then we would all look at each other uncomfortably.

 

[SaintsManiac]

I think that’s the most practical way to manage it. Disney doesn’t have access to 3rd party reservation data. It also seems the most fair to tenants, otherwise restaurants take all the potential slots leaving non-TS with no business.

Could also mean something for the parks when they reopen. Just because you have a BOG ADR doesn't mean you get in.

 

[ENJDisneyFan]

I also wonder what will Disney do once it is obvious they have someone who likely has the virus.

Most likely, nothing. How would they even know? Beyond temperature checks they aren't actively checking anyone for symptoms. And I highly doubt they will get into the business of following up on the health of any specific person.

 

[Anthony Vito]

I don't think Disney is going to get in the business of quarantining the sick .. not even their employees. They aren't going to test people, they sure aren't going to forcibly quarantine people. They just aren't going to let people in if they have a temperature (at least at first). I sincerely doubt they are going to follow up on those with temperatures and require them to get a test.

I would think there would be all sorts of privacy and HIPAA issues with that.

I mean .. Disney has already put out a "come at your own risk" disclaimer for Disney Springs. The parks and resorts will have the same disclaimers.

It's up to Disney just to have safety measures in place to help reduce (not eliminate) the risks to cast and guests of getting it from potential other guests that may be sick while there.

For the parks down the road, if policies are similar, not letting someone in with a temperature only does so much good if the person turned away then gets back on Disney transportation to return to a Disney resort.

Also, while it is a bit nuanced (and not meant to pick on you), I see HIPAA mentioned a lot. HIPAA does not apply to everyone - it only applies to "covered" entities. So if a security Cast Member takes someone's temperature, or even administers a rapid test, HIPAA might not even apply, since they probably would not be considered the right type of medical provider. https://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/for-professionals/covered-entities/index.html. I spent a lot of time on those FAQs in my previous job since we were always fighting with doctors' offices over illegal charges for providing patients' records (really not supposed to charge much $ at all to someone to provide them their records).

 

[gottalovepluto]

Could also mean something for the parks when they reopen. Just because you have a BOG ADR doesn't mean you get in.

Might but the ADRs in park are a lot more in Disney’s control. Do their current phased closing procedures allow for entry if you have a dining reservation?

 

[gottalovepluto]

For the parks down the road, if policies are similar, not letting someone in with a temperature only does so much good if the person turned away then gets back on Disney transportation to return to a Disney resort.

Also, while it is a bit nuanced (and not meant to pick on you), I see HIPAA mentioned a lot. HIPAA does not apply to everyone - it only applies to "covered" entities. So if a security Cast Member takes someone's temperature, or even administers a rapid test, HIPAA might not even apply, since they probably would not be considered the right type of medical provider. https://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/for-professionals/covered-entities/index.html. I spent a lot of time on those FAQs in my previous job since we were always fighting with doctors' offices over illegal charges for providing patients' records (really not supposed to charge much $ at all to someone to provide them their records).

I hadn’t even thought about people getting turned away at the park getting back on Disney transport.

Obviously I would be very bad at planning out mass temp checks

 

[woody337]

I hadn’t even thought about people getting turned away at the park getting back on Disney transport.

Obviously I would be very bad at planning out mass temp checks

What if temps are checked before boarding the buses?

 

[Anthony Vito]

The policy of what happens if you come down with COVID while staying at Disney property will likely never be divulged to the public.

While I agree with this - I think it would be nice to know, or have some idea, in order to factor that into the risk evaluation with going. At a minimum, it would be nice to see something from Disney just acknowledging that they realize this could come up and that they will handle it on a case-by-case basis and work with the guests, government, and medical providers to handle it in as accommodating a manner as possible.

 

[dawnball]

I hadn’t even thought about people getting turned away at the park getting back on Disney transport.

Obviously I would be very bad at planning out mass temp checks

You put them back a step. For busses/skyliner/monorail, you put them before someone gets on transportation. For walking and folks driving to parking lots, you put them at the perimeter outside security.

 

[Anthony Vito]

I hadn’t even thought about people getting turned away at the park getting back on Disney transport.

Obviously I would be very bad at planning out mass temp checks

Obviously I'm jumping ahead a bit towards "rumors" of what plans might be for the parks, and not for the current reopening of Disney Springs. The funny thing with this is that I think I would be very good at trying to come up with contingency plans - definitely not with having all the answers - much of that would need to come from medical, epidemiological, and public health experts. It really doesn't make me much fun though, thinking of all the things that could go wrong.

What if temps are checked before boarding the buses?

I actually think this is how they should handle checks once the resorts and parks reopen, at least for resort guests. It would spread things out and make it more manageable at the park entrance. Then those who come on Disney transportation would be separated to different entrances. Then only those who do not come in on Disney transportation would need to be screened at the park entrance/security.

Of course, if the person is denied due to a temp. check, etc., they would still turn around and go back into the Disney hotel, so that problem still remains.

 

[Sarahslay]

The policy of what happens if you come down with COVID while staying at Disney property will likely never be divulged to the public.

Code 2319 response probably.

 

[IceSkatingPrincess]

Might but the ADRs in park are a lot more in Disney’s control. Do their current phased closing procedures allow for entry if you have a dining reservation?

According to touring plans, at least, how it usually goes is you can get in as a resort guest or a person with a reservation/appointment (think BBB) in all but phase 4.

Phase 4 it doesn't matter if you have reservations, are an onsite guest, etc. Nobody else gets in. Phase 4 doesn't happen much. Think 4th of July, NYE, Christmas Day type of situations.

 

[gottalovepluto]

Code 2319 response probably.

They gotta be sneaky... Code 9132

 

[SaintsManiac]

Might but the ADRs in park are a lot more in Disney’s control. Do their current phased closing procedures allow for entry if you have a dining reservation?

It's probably going to depend on if they do this "reservation" system for the parks. Just because someone booked an ADR 180 days ago it might not mean they can get into that park that day. We just have to wait and see.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Might but the ADRs in park are a lot more in Disney’s control. Do their current phased closing procedures allow for entry if you have a dining reservation?

According to touring plans, at least, how it usually goes is you can get in as a resort guest or a person with a reservation/appointment (think BBB) in all but phase 4.

Phase 4 it doesn't matter if you have reservations, are an onsite guest, etc. Nobody else gets in. Phase 4 doesn't happen much. Think 4th of July, NYE, Christmas Day type of situations.

I was wondering if they might run at new "phases" - Let's say they want to keep it max 30% capacity, maybe once it hits like 25% they go to Phase 1 which would only allow you still in if resort guest or have ADR, then at 30% no one is allowed in for any reason

 

[IceSkatingPrincess]

I was wondering if they might run at new "phases" - Let's say they want to keep it max 30% capacity, maybe once it hits like 25% they go to Phase 1 which would only allow you still in if resort guest or have ADR, then at 30% no one is allowed in for any reason

I would imagine the capacity levels that trigger a phase would need to be altered in the short-term. What the new levels are that give the distance people want but the profitability Disney needs... I have no idea.

 

[ryman471]

But the risk is different if everyone is following the rules vs 1/2 the people not following them - be it actual risks or perceived risks. Iger has said they need to do what they have to in order for people to feel safe and if I am bringing my family there it would be with the expectation that rules are followed (maybe not 100% as there are always rule breakers, but not 50/50) - so if I saw all these warnings signs and regulations about what is required to be at Disney Springs or in the parks and then Disney didn't do anything about 1/2 the people shirking those rules, I'd be a bit upset

Be prepared to be upset then. It is a matter of human nature. 50% are going to have a hard time breathing really bad in the heat and humidity and they are going to be slipping it below their mouth just enough to breathe but not enough to get "in trouble". That is what is going to happen, guaranteed. If you take your family their thinking they are going to be some super high security force protecting you every moment of the days, your best bet is to not go if you feel you dont want to take on extra risk right now

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Be prepared to be upset then. It is a matter of human nature. 50% are going to have a hard time breathing really bad in the heat and humidity and they are going to be slipping it below their mouth just enough to breathe but not enough to get "in trouble". That is what is going to happen, guaranteed. If you take your family their thinking they are going to be some super high security force protecting you every moment of the days, your best bet is to not go if you feel you dont want to take on extra risk right now

where are you getting your 50% figure from? Why should we expect 50% of people won't follow the rules? I know it won't be 100% compliance but why would 50% of people think they are above these rules?

And I am not expecting some "super high security force" to watch and enforce every little thing, but if people are clearly shirking the rules then they should be dealt with just like people that break any other rules that negatively impact other guests

 

[ryman471]

where are you getting your 50% figure from? Why should we expect 50% of people won't follow the rules? I know it won't be 100% compliance but why would 50% of people think they are above these rules?

And I am not expecting some "super high security force" to watch and enforce every little thing, but if people are clearly shirking the rules then they should be dealt with just like people that break any other rules that negatively impact other guests

that is conservative. It will probably be a higher number of people not wearing them correctly/safely. Just common sense and i have seen it in manufacturing. Keep an eye on Disney Springs but that just depends on how many people are outside in the heat.