Rumor about “modified experiences” when Disney reopens (read 1st post for potential modifications being considered)

[vinotinto]

I think we are looking at this the wrong way. There won't be a vaccine any time soon, no amount of testing to guests can be done reliably (and it probably legally not even allowed (privacy). You can't mandate masks, that just won't work.

Disney can really only control things from their side -- limiting capacity, employees wearing masks, spreading out queues (somehow), etc. Thus the purpose of this thread to discuss "reduced or modified experiences" ..

And then just let people decide for themselves to take the risk to go. Disney needs to worry about making guests feel safe and protecting the employees. If an employee doesn't want to risk working there, get them a job temporarily that doesn't put them in close contact with guests.

If employees get it, give them "free" sick days and have them self-isolate.

Though .. the problem is probably less about the virus going forward but about the economic disaster that will befall us because of it and a huge percentage of the population will no longer be able to afford Disney. Our culture will also shift as our priorities change because of the lockdowns.

We'll have modified experiences simply due to severely reduced demand in the tourist industry.

If you read the list of rumored modifications that WDW is considering, it *is* stuff they can control. Of course, some will be OK with the modifications, some won't find them palatable. A WDW reduced to MK and AK rides, with no characters, no parades, no fireworks and no shows, won't be for everyone.

Edit to add: I would gladly put on a mask if it means getting some of those experiences. But, it does not seem likely, at least for their first phase of opening.

 

[mattpeto]

"Guests will have to sign additional legal forms clearing Disney of liability for potential exposure to COVID-19."

I am amused that I can't think of any way this wouldn't be an enormous virus issue...unless they are wiping down pads every guest...and keeping a trash can next to every tablet holder...

And then the form would be as useless as most of the forms are legally...since most guests will say they were pushed to sign them before they read them...so they almost aren't worth the paper they won't be written on...

Meh, this is an easy hurdle. Sign off can be done electronically from home or whatever, tied to your magicband.

 

[DisneyJColeMom]

And if they cancel fireworks, then they are lowering the prices or altogether not offering the rooms at Disney resorts that you pay extra for fireworks views right? Yes of course!

 

[Jennasis]

Well, if the protocols listed in post 1 are correct for USO, then our November trip is off the table.

 

[rstevens333]

I'd be fine with these kinds of reduced experiences, but I have an annual pass right now. A "ticket" for the day doesn't cost the same as it would on a per-day basis. It wouldn't be nearly as appealing at those prices.

Masks would be a bit of a turn off, but as long as they add them to the Big Thunder spiel, I'd do my best. (hold on to your hats, glasses and masks...)

 

[Lewisc]

Meh, this is an easy hurdle. Sign off can be done electronically from home or whatever, tied to your magicband.

Those agreements won't apply to people infected guests might infect when they get home.
I wonder if how valid a court would find them if Disney didn't follow procedures. Empty hand sanitizers. Distance rules not bring enforced.....

The waiver has to be the last line of defense.
Forget about lawsuits. Disney can't get the rep of being the place where you get sick, come home and infect friends and relatives.

 

[runnergrl]

By air, it is based on where the flight originates. It includes all flights from NY, NJ, LA, CT.

By car, they have checkpoints set up in the highway (I can just imagine the delays this will cause):
"Drivers and their passengers coming from Louisiana, New York, New Jersey or Connecticut will be required to fill out a “traveler form” at the checkpoint that includes their contact information and the details of their trip. They will also be required to stay isolated for the first 14 days they are in the state. If their visit is shorter than that, they have to stay isolated the entire time, according to a DOT news release."

Also from NY (no where near NYC) - blanket policies are dumb because honestly all this tells me is to drive slightly longer to the airport and fly out of VT.

Or hell, even better, fly from the closest airport and just have a layover elsewhere.

 

[mickeystoontown]

Relative to the hot spots, I am from the northern/top part of the state of Louisiana. Since the stay at home order was issued nearly a month ago, my workplace is "open" but we aren't seeing clients and it is just my boss and I keeping in touch with our clients via telephone and email. I've not been in a store or around more than three people at once in over a month and those people are my immediate family who are doing the same. I live 299 miles from New Orleans where the number of infected persons is the highest but we are lumped into the hot spot category. Our trip to Disney isn't until the week before Thanksgiving through the week of Thanksgiving and I'm sure that things will be different than our previous 26 trips to our happy place.

 

[DopeyDame]

Also from NY (no where near NYC) - blanket policies are dumb because honestly all this tells me is to drive slightly longer to the airport and fly out of VT.

Absolutely. I haven't done any reserach into this at all, but if they're really basing it on your airport location, certainly anyone in NYC could easily drive 1.5 hours to Philadelphia and avoid the issue

 

[runnergrl]

Absolutely. I haven't done any reserach into this at all, but if they're really basing it on your airport location, certainly anyone in NYC could easily drive 1.5 hours to Philadelphia and avoid the issue

Or better yet, I edited to add above. Just don't fly direct.

If I have a layover in Atlanta, all that MCO sees is that I came in on a flight from Georgia.

And to add on to the person from LA, our hospitals have more cases that were transferred from the city than those that live here. (live about half way between Canada and the city and yes, I'm a bit perturbed)

 

[tlmadden73]

If you read the list of rumored modifications that WDW is considering, it *is* stuff they can control. Of course, some will be OK with the modifications, some won't find them palatable. A WDW reduced to MK and AK rides, with no characters, no parades, no fireworks and no shows, won't be for everyone.

Edit to add: I would gladly put on a mask if it means getting some of those experiences. But, it does not seem likely, at least for their first phase of opening.

I would be fine with modified experiences too (for a short term) .. but Disney best be offering HUGE discounts to get people in the door. IF Disney is opening in June -- I am cancelling that trip if the experience inside is reduced significantly without financial incentive to keep my booking (and that can vary per family what "signficant" is ..)

If people "waited out" going to SWGE until Rise open .. people will most CERTAINLY wait out going back to Disney until it is "back to normal".

Who knows .. I just think if they open "halfway" .. the demand won't be there .. especially with a virus still lurking around. "I'll wait until 2021" will easily be a post on these board if Disney announces a lot of reduced capacity/attractions in the parks.

 

[scard192]

I would be fine with modified experiences too (for a short term) .. but Disney best be offering HUGE discounts to get people in the door. IF Disney is opening in June -- I am cancelling that trip if the experience inside is reduced significantly without financial incentive to keep my booking (and that can vary per family what "signficant" is ..)

If people "waited out" going to SWGE until Rise open .. people will most CERTAINLY wait out going back to Disney until it is "back to normal".

Who knows .. I just think if they open "halfway" .. the demand won't be there .. especially with a virus still lurking around. "I'll wait until 2021" will easily be a post on these board if Disney announces a lot of reduced capacity/attractions in the parks.

I agree completely. we postponed our April trip ( were supposed to leave tomorrow) to October. If we will only be able to experience say 50% of what we would have pre-Covid19 then I need a corresponding discount or we won't be going. Assuming it's open and safe to go.
Expecting the trip to be pushed back to next April.

 

[yulilin3]

Also from NY (no where near NYC) - blanket policies are dumb because honestly all this tells me is to drive slightly longer to the airport and fly out of VT.

Or hell, even better, fly from the closest airport and just have a layover elsewhere.

Or better yet, I edited to add above. Just don't fly direct.

If I have a layover in Atlanta, all that MCO sees is that I came in on a flight from Georgia.

And to add on to the person from LA, our hospitals have more cases that were transferred from the city than those that live here. (live about half way between Canada and the city and yes, I'm a bit perturbed)

If you're thinking of hypothetically still coming and driving from another city or transferring just come direct from your cities and don't obey the 14 self isolation order.
Florida is basically telling you to self isolate and is hoping people do, from what I know we've had 3 people so far developed symptoms while they are in self isolation that came from these states, they were able to reach out to fellow passengers and let them know to be aware of this and on the lookout for symptoms, in the end it's for everyone's well being. I know it seems unfair but unfortunately that's what the policy is now

 

[runnergrl]

If you're thinking of hypothetically still coming and driving from another city or transferring just come direct from your cities and don't obey the 14 self isolation order.
Florida is basically telling you to self isolate and is hoping people do, from what I know we've had 3 people so far developed symptoms while they are in self isolation that came from these states, they were able to reach out to fellow passengers and let them know to be aware of this and on the lookout for symptoms, in the end it's for everyone's well being. I know it seems unfair but unfortunately that's what the policy is now

I was merely speaking hypothetically to point out the irrationality of blanket-rules because you know if I'm thinking it, others are doing it. I have no potential trips for awhile and no plans on being intentionally petulant.

When I said I was perturbed it's because it gets old when people forget that NY exists outside of NYC, because (speaking literally for a moment): metro NYC has had 95.3% of the cases in the state of NY. (The entire state of NJ and most of CT is closer to the city than I am).

 

[MMSM]

The situation is very fluid right now, we don't have an end to our contract and the nurses contracts just got extended to end of May. Right now we're monitoring everyone coming from flights from NY, NJ, LA and CT. Im expecting some more states to be added if they become hot spots.
Im not sure how the situation is on the border but I think they're being asked to self isolate as well
As far as what people will do, it's really impossible to know, I do know people are being contacted through out the 14 days by the Florida department of health to check on any symptoms

This is what is crazy. I’m self quarantined here - I drive or fly to Florida and because Im from NY I’m treated differently. Someone in Florida could spread just as easy. I absolutely hate these posts.

Also from NY (no where near NYC) - blanket policies are dumb because honestly all this tells me is to drive slightly longer to the airport and fly out of VT.

Or hell, even better, fly from the closest airport and just have a layover elsewhere.

You got it! I live 6 hours from the city. But to be honest I don’t think anyone had the right to deny borders of states to anyone. At some point we have to trust our citizens.

 

[yulilin3]

This is what is crazy. I’m self quarantined here - I drive or fly to Florida and because Im from NY I’m treated differently. Someone in Florida could spread just as easy. I absolutely hate these posts.

You got it! I live 6 hours from the city. But to be honest I don’t think anyone had the right to deny borders of states to anyone. At some point we have to trust our citizens.

Im not sure what you mean with "I hate these posts"
This is an executive order from the governor of Florida, it's not my idea, i just gather the info at the airport from people coming from these states

 

[ThistleMae]

Im mentally preparing there won't be an HHN this year

OMG....didn't even think of this. I'm a big fan...but it is a long way out, so who knows.

 

[xuxa777]

OMG....didn't even think of this. I'm a big fan...but it is a long way out, so who knows.

I think there will be a HHN this year, modified but there will be one

 

[FCDub]

And if they cancel fireworks, then they are lowering the prices or altogether not offering the rooms at Disney resorts that you pay extra for fireworks views right? Yes of course!

Are they specifically billed as "fireworks views"? I've heard of "theme park views" but not the other.

 

[Jennasis]

I think there will be a HHN this year, modified but there will be one

I think it gets canned. People screaming indoors is an easy way to spread the virus.