Rude Behavior At Disney

[dmccarty]

Um, just so you know, I'm not going twice as fast as a walking person on my ECV, in fact, I'm generally going as SLOW or SLOWER than the walking public. The only time I went faster was on the completely empty boardwalk in the middle of the afternoon. Most ECV drivers I've seen are going the same speed as I am. We're not holy terrors that fly around the parks with no regard for anyone else.

You may not drive that fast but I have seen ECV's zipping around people in the parks. Its not common but its not uncommon either.

The DW and I went to EPCOT one night after leaving the kids at Simba's. We were going to walk around WS and started to go counter clockwise. There is a slight rise in the walkway just before WS on the right side. There I saw a seriously overweight man on an ECV moving quite briskly along. He had to be 500 pounds. What caught my attention was his yelling and screaming at his daughter who was walking behind him about 15 feet. She looked to be 12ish and very obese. Close to 200 pounds. She was obviously stressed, out of breath and very tired. Her face was red and she was sweating heavily even though it was nice out. She had certainly walked around WS while her father rode the ECV. He was yelling at her that she was slowing down and not keeping up with him on the ECV. He was going much faster than normal walking speed which was much faster than his daughter could handle.

It was sad, pathetic, and rude. Here he is in such bad shape that he is on an ECV but he makes his daughter fast walk in a manner that he should know is stressful to her. He could not have slow walked what she did but he was yelling at her to catch up to him on the ECV.

We walked on a few more yards to WS and decide to go clockwise so we headed towards Mexico. By this time it was getting dark out and zooming down the walkway was an ECV with a 12/13 year old boy zipping around people as if they were pylons on a road course. Right behind him zoom zooming around people was dear old mom with the younger brother in another ECV.

So while some people might operate ECV's responsibly there are certainly others that do not.

Later,
Dan

 

[toocherie]

You may not drive that fast but I have seen ECV's zipping around people in the parks. Its not common but its not uncommon either.

The DW and I went to EPCOT one night after leaving the kids at Simba's. We were going to walk around WS and started to go counter clockwise. There is a slight rise in the walkway just before WS on the right side. There I saw a seriously overweight man on an ECV moving quite briskly along. He had to be 500 pounds. What caught my attention was his yelling and screaming at his daughter who was walking behind him about 15 feet. She looked to be 12ish and very obese. Close to 200 pounds. She was obviously stressed, out of breath and very tired. Her face was red and she was sweating heavily even though it was nice out. She had certainly walked around WS while her father rode the ECV. He was yelling at her that she was slowing down and not keeping up with him on the ECV. He was going much faster than normal walking speed which was much faster than his daughter could handle.

It was sad, pathetic, and rude. Here he is in such bad shape that he is on an ECV but he makes his daughter fast walk in a manner that he should know is stressful to her. He could not have slow walked what she did but he was yelling at her to catch up to him on the ECV.

We walked on a few more yards to WS and decide to go clockwise so we headed towards Mexico. By this time it was getting dark out and zooming down the walkway was an ECV with a 12/13 year old boy zipping around people as if they were pylons on a road course. Right behind him zoom zooming around people was dear old mom with the younger brother in another ECV.

So while some people might operate ECV's responsibly there are certainly others that do not.

Later,
Dan

And while some people are considerate of others, there certainly others that are not.

I don't understand the young kids on ECVs--I thought there was a rule that you had to be 18?

And I have seen other people on ECVs going much too fast in the parks for the conditions. (Just saw this at DL in fact--we were like--"wow"). I try to go slow and look out when I am on an ECV. Because I know pedestrians are too engrossed in everything else most of the time.

 

[jwfla422]

We've had a few similar situations that other posters had mentioned especially with the parades. I now refuse to find a spot to hang out at to watch a parade because someone always ends up decking in front of us.

The one situation that sticks in my mind was a few years ago in front of the castle. DD was about 7 or 8 at the time and just finally got comfortable going up the the "kids" section herself even with me standing close by.

She was standing behind the kid's section watching the show at the castle and I was about 10 feet back with a lot of open area in front of me. A man walks behind her with his kid sitting in a stroller. I saw him tap my dd on the shoulder and say something to her. DD came running to me upset.

He had the gall to tell her to move out of the way so his son in his stroller could see the show!! I told him "tough", how dare he ask my daughter to move. Be a brave man and ask me! Then of course he tried to pick a fight with me! What a "bully" he was. I was so close to decking him! But of couse, it was in no way, worth fighting with him and being ejected from the park (not to mention setting a bad example for my dd), so I walked away to the other side with dd to watch the rest of the show.

I told a CM what happened and she even told me she hears stories of rude people like that all of the time. She said everyone pays to get into the parks so everyone should be respectful to each other but they're not, that some people just think they're better than you are and they behave like snobs.

 

[toocherie]

We've had a few similar situations that other posters had mentioned especially with the parades. I now refuse to find a spot to hang out at to watch a parade because someone always ends up decking in front of us.

The one situation that sticks in my mind was a few years ago in front of the castle. DD was about 7 or 8 at the time and just finally got comfortable going up the the "kids" section herself even with me standing close by.

She was standing behind the kid's section watching the show at the castle and I was about 10 feet back with a lot of open area in front of me. A man walks behind her with his kid sitting in a stroller. I saw him tap my dd on the shoulder and say something to her. DD came running to me upset.

He had the gall to tell her to move out of the way so his son in his stroller could see the show!! I told him "tough", how dare he ask my daughter to move. Be a brave man and ask me! Then of course he tried to pick a fight with me! What a "bully" he was. I was so close to decking him! But of couse, it was in no way, worth fighting with him and being ejected from the park (not to mention setting a bad example for my dd), so I walked away to the other side with dd to watch the rest of the show.

I told a CM what happened and she even told me she hears stories of rude people like that all of the time. She said everyone pays to get into the parks so everyone should be respectful to each other but they're not, that some people just think they're better than you are and they behave like snobs.

I love the picture of your DD with Chip and Dale--it really is TOO CUTE!

 

[Floydian]

One thing that can get frustrating is when others walk in front of you when you are trying to take pictures. I know there are others on here who say they are having to much fun to notice, but sometimes it's clearly obvious when someone is taking a picture and they have time to stop or walk in another direction. I have also read on here that others who do stop will give the person 10 seconds to take the picture and if they have not they will walk in front of them no matter what, which I find to be very rude. Anway this has happened to my family and I which is frustrating, although at least with digital cameras pictures can be erased. However that is still no excuse for not noticing or saying I am sorry.

I had to comment on this one, because it struck a nerve for me. This is something I love doing every chance I get. If I see someone is trying to get a picture taken, especially if I watch people walk through before me, instead of going through them or even around them, what I like to do is STOP! I stop there, extend my arms to signal for others not to pass, and hope they get the picture done before I start a riot. You'd be amazed how many people will actually stop and wait patiently when someone is directing them. Plus, I bet some of them even pay that kindness forward, which is a great bonus

 

[maccagerl]

The lady made such a spectacle of herself that the CM just let them go to avoid any more use of foul language and to diffuse the scene. We felt bad for the CM, but the CM should have kicked them out of line or called security.

I think this is a huge part of the problem- CM's who enable the people who blatantly disregard the rules by not enforcing the rules and not calling security when needed. If things continue to progress this way, eventually the lines will just be huge free-for-alls - it won't be fun and it won't be safe.

 

[crashbb]

I had to comment on this one, because it struck a nerve for me. This is something I love doing every chance I get. If I see someone is trying to get a picture taken, especially if I watch people walk through before me, instead of going through them or even around them, what I like to do is STOP! I stop there, extend my arms to signal for others not to pass, and hope they get the picture done before I start a riot. You'd be amazed how many people will actually stop and wait patiently when someone is directing them. Plus, I bet some of them even pay that kindness forward, which is a great bonus

Honestly, I'm sure that more people are muttering under their breath and getting annoyed, rather than planning on "passing on the kindness". I am considerate and would likely stop a few seconds for someone to take a photo, but I'll be darned if I will be "directed" by a fellow guest. We aren't talking about someone acting as a traffic cop when the power has gone out at an intersection (many people, including me, did that during the "big east coast black out" a number of years ago) - that is appreciate, what you are doing is, frankly, rather annoying. The fact that you acknowledge that they need to take the picture quickly "before a riot starts" demonstrates that you know that the people you are stopping do not see it as a act of kindness.

 

[Markstudy]

If I see someone is trying to get a picture taken,

I stop there, extend my arms to signal for others not to pass

For 10 years I was a professional photographer, and have always been under the impression that it is my job to get the shot and invest my time to work around the crowd.

People passing-by have the right-of-way. I'm sorry but you are making the wrong people wait

Folks if you want a photo... set up your shot, set up your camera, and then wait for a clear shot, then take a few snaps to make sure you get a good one. It might take 5 to 10 minutes of your time. But that is no concern of the crowds that are walking from point "A" to point "B"

Taking a photo requires waiting. Why should someone taking a photo not have to wait?

The reason people use to stop, was because they were worried about getting into a photo by accident .....because with film you had to spend money and days to get the photo developed. BUT NOW WITH DIGITAL CAMERAS, YOU CAN REVIEW YOUR SHOTS ON THE SPOT, TAKE MORE PHOTOS, AND THERE IS NO COST TO DEVELOP FILM.

When you consider that there are 100's of people taking photos at any second at Disney.....it gets old real fast, stopping all the time

 

[mickeyluv'r]

toys! It didn't seem to bother them so we didn't say anything unless they tried to carry them off, but I had to wonder if maybe the parents thought they were just random toys provided by the resort?

Incidentally, either WDW does do this, or else I've been to WDW pools where folks left pool toys behind. I think it is the former, but maybe someone was paying it forward.

Not to beat dead horse....but I thik my story has real merit and a different perspective:

Once my MIL was at POR and had an injured hip. It was not her usual thing as she is an avid runner. She had to sit down while waiting for the bus. The rest of the family lined up for the bus. Once she made the mistake of sitting until the bus came. Luckily we had a large group or there's no way she would have been able to get her on that bus! By the time the bus came, there was three times as many folks waiting as could fit onthe bus. A mob mentality kicked in.

She was so embarrassed that she stayed back at the room - by herself - for much of the trip. Only on the last full day did she agree to try and come out again.

In our case, the main bus stop at POR was total mob scene. It was a long wait between buses, there is no line queue, multiple buses come to teh same stop. When the bus did come it would pull up to the curb, nearly stop, then pull up alittle more. Folks would rush to be at teh front of line, then shove to move over. If you weren't agressive, there was no WAY you were getting on the bus. There were far too many people in the area, and nobody directing them.

I don't blame the crowd at all. People were mad because this was at about 8:30am when peak crowds are trying to get to the parks. I'm sure some folks had ADR's and the like and were late -through no fault of their own - in my mind. There was no CM; it was just a free for all. There was no designated place to form a line, and it wasn't clear where each bus was going to stop.

I firmly blame WDW. I emailed my concerns after out trip, and apparently nothig has changed. Okay, there was one woman who tried to shove an elbow at me....but other than that, I think the set up is to blame. We saw much larger crowds at the Pop bus stop and never a problem. I didn't think I'd ever like a value over a mod, but I'd take a room at Pop over POR any day. I will never stay at POR again.

 

[Hollytigs]

this is not a WHO concert people, these are puppet bears!
Susan

THAT is my favourite quote EVER!!!!

 

[DizBelle]

Vestibular disabilities (inner ear problems) can cause this as can disabilities caused by a brain tumor like mine and even concussions (been there done that, got the t-shirt). I used to be fine when I was walking, but when I stopped I would get very dizzy and almost pass out. I still cannot stand for long periods of time, but when I'm moving I'm OK.

You see, I didn't think about something that would make you dizzy/off balance when standing but would be fine walking. I was trying to think of something that would make your legs/feet able to handle miles of walking but couldn't handle even minimal standing.

Inner ear issues make perfect sense.

Thanks for the education!

 

[maxiesmom]

When did you stay at POR? I have stayed there 3 times, and never witnessed the mob scene that you did at the bus stops. My trips were all in the fall, so maybe that made the difference.

And while I am sorry your MIL was hurt, there is where some planning could have helped her out. If you knew she couldn't stand to wait for the bus, why not rent a car so she could be comfortable? Or some of you could have rode with her in a taxi to the parks. It would be more money, but that would have been better than her sitting at the resort missing out on the fun, right?

 

[jimd176]

2 years ago we stayed at the Caribbean Beach Resort. We decided to stay one day at the pool. There were approx 20 people at the pool.
Suddenly, around midday we had 9 British people come to the pool. They were shouting, swearing at each other, drinking beer. generally spoiling everyone's enjoyment. Within 20 minutes. Everyone left the pool. We moved from our Pool at Barbados to the main pool to allow our kids to enjoy their day in the resort.

 

[Talking Hands]

And while some people are considerate of others, there certainly others that are not.

I don't understand the young kids on ECVs--I thought there was a rule that you had to be 18?

And I have seen other people on ECVs going much too fast in the parks for the conditions. (Just saw this at DL in fact--we were like--"wow"). I try to go slow and look out when I am on an ECV. Because I know pedestrians are too engrossed in everything else most of the time.

The rule is 18 and no riders. If it is Disney ECV just point it out to a CM and they can actually take the ECV from them.
If is a privately owned ECV(scooter) then a teen or even a child may use it. This doesn't mean a rental. It would be like me allowing a family member to move my PWC after I have tranferred to a chair or ride vehicle.

 

[Talking Hands]

We've had a few similar situations that other posters had mentioned especially with the parades. I now refuse to find a spot to hang out at to watch a parade because someone always ends up decking in front of us.

The one situation that sticks in my mind was a few years ago in front of the castle. DD was about 7 or 8 at the time and just finally got comfortable going up the the "kids" section herself even with me standing close by.

She was standing behind the kid's section watching the show at the castle and I was about 10 feet back with a lot of open area in front of me. A man walks behind her with his kid sitting in a stroller. I saw him tap my dd on the shoulder and say something to her. DD came running to me upset.

He had the gall to tell her to move out of the way so his son in his stroller could see the show!! I told him "tough", how dare he ask my daughter to move. Be a brave man and ask me! Then of course he tried to pick a fight with me! What a "bully" he was. I was so close to decking him! But of couse, it was in no way, worth fighting with him and being ejected from the park (not to mention setting a bad example for my dd), so I walked away to the other side with dd to watch the rest of the show.

I told a CM what happened and she even told me she hears stories of rude people like that all of the time. She said everyone pays to get into the parks so everyone should be respectful to each other but they're not, that some people just think they're better than you are and they behave like snobs.

There is no kids section at the castle shows. Anyone can be in front. I normally am in front to the right of the stage and stay as close to the rope as I can. Why. Because that is where the sign language interpreters are and if I am not I can't see them or someone will decide to stand in front of me and I can't see the interpreters or the show. I get there early to stake out my spot. I will back up to allow a child to sit in front of the PWC as long as they are willing to sit during the show. I also turn off the controller so if they are close to the PWC there is no chance of them hitting the controller and hurting themselves,, others or me.

 

[Eeyore's Buddy]

I know lots will find this gross but what would you do?

Happened a few years ago while at "Honey I shrunk...". A family had plopped themselves right in the middle and when asked to move to the end the woman said "no way was she moving". As we stumbled across them to get seats, my niece (age 5) inadvertantly let out a rather loud and ordurious bit of flatulence, right in front of the woman who wasn't moving. I told her to say "Excuse me" and she turned to me and said "but Auntie, if I didn't have to climb over them, I wouldn't have farted".

I apologized to the woman but then we all got into a giggling fit over it.

EB

 

[hitthebids]

People on this board are too sensitive. You think that any blanket complaint is directed at you. It is not. It is directed at the 95% or more people who visit Disney that don't read these boards. This is just a place to vent. Just to go over a few things:

1. Yes people in wheelchairs are given preference whenever possible on lines. I've seen it and I've been told how great it is to have someone in a wheelchair in your group.
2. Electric scooters are dangerous in the wrong hands and should be banned in the Parks. If you hit someone you will hurt them. Those carts weigh a few hundred pounds. Even running over someones foot will cause pain. Yes you maybe careful and such but how are we supposed to know that. You can not speak for everyone that drives one.
3. Sitting on the bench at the bus stop and then jumping to the front on the line is RUDE. We are not mind readers, we don't know that you are waiting for the bus. If you are first and people start to Que up, then get in line. If someone in your group needs to sit, fine. But the bulk of your group must get up.
4.Children are important. My children are just as important to me as yours are to you. If my kids are willing to wait an hour to get a good seat for a parade then they are entitled to it. I used to make my kids bunch up to let some other kids scoot in and guess what would happen? A van full of adults would try to push in with the one or two kids that we accommodated. So I don't do it anymore. Done.
5.The pools do not provide toys. Any toys at the pool belong to someone else. Even the few pools that rent "noodles" are making me responsible to return it. Kids are kids and don't know any better. If you see your kid playing with some toys, and I am taking a liberty thinking everyone watches their kids, then you must ask them to give it back. We lugged it down to the pool for our kids, not yours.

I know I may sound harsh but I can not believe some of the things I have read on here this week. Disboard people are the nicest people in the world but I know I am going to get back stuff like, "This lonely little boy was playing with his boats all alone at the pool and my angels went over and played with him and he had the best time in his life and now we are lifelong friends with the parents." They remind me of comedy show. All the jokes are funny except the ones that might be about you. Believe me, they are not about you.

 

[BayouMickey]

1. Yes people in wheelchairs are given preference whenever possible on lines. I've seen it and I've been told how great it is to have someone in a wheelchair in your group.
2. Electric scooters are dangerous in the wrong hands and should be banned in the Parks. If you hit someone you will hurt them. Those carts weigh a few hundred pounds. Even running over someones foot will cause pain. Yes you maybe careful and such but how are we supposed to know that. You can not speak for everyone that drives one.

clueless...

 

[KPeveler]

I can only speak to the first two, but you are actually quite wrong and suggesting illegal behavior.

1. NO PREFERENCE IS NOT GIVEN IN LINES. You may think you see people cutting to the front of hte line, but generally we wait in a different area. 5+ years ago people skipped the lines but not anymore... So people may have told you it was great travelling with people in wheelchairs but things have changed in the last 5 years. In general, I have to wait longer than the posted standby time to get on a ride.

2. DANGEROUS people should be told they can no longer have a power scooter and must use a wheelchair. However, you cannot ban electric scooters. They are mobility devices protected by the ADA, and you can no more take them away as you can ban all people with canes or crutches. It is illegal and that is that...

Perhaps you should try using a wheelchair next time you are there and see how hard it is...

People on this board are too sensitive. You think that any blanket complaint is directed at you. It is not. It is directed at the 95% or more people who visit Disney that don't read these boards. This is just a place to vent. Just to go over a few things:

1. Yes people in wheelchairs are given preference whenever possible on lines. I've seen it and I've been told how great it is to have someone in a wheelchair in your group.
2. Electric scooters are dangerous in the wrong hands and should be banned in the Parks. If you hit someone you will hurt them. Those carts weigh a few hundred pounds. Even running over someones foot will cause pain. Yes you maybe careful and such but how are we supposed to know that. You can not speak for everyone that drives one.
3. Sitting on the bench at the bus stop and then jumping to the front on the line is RUDE. We are not mind readers, we don't know that you are waiting for the bus. If you are first and people start to Que up, then get in line. If someone in your group needs to sit, fine. But the bulk of your group must get up.
4.Children are important. My children are just as important to me as yours are to you. If my kids are willing to wait an hour to get a good seat for a parade then they are entitled to it. I used to make my kids bunch up to let some other kids scoot in and guess what would happen? A van full of adults would try to push in with the one or two kids that we accommodated. So I don't do it anymore. Done.
5.The pools do not provide toys. Any toys at the pool belong to someone else. Even the few pools that rent "noodles" are making me responsible to return it. Kids are kids and don't know any better. If you see your kid playing with some toys, and I am taking a liberty thinking everyone watches their kids, then you must ask them to give it back. We lugged it down to the pool for our kids, not yours.

I know I may sound harsh but I can not believe some of the things I have read on here this week. Disboard people are the nicest people in the world but I know I am going to get back stuff like, "This lonely little boy was playing with his boats all alone at the pool and my angels went over and played with him and he had the best time in his life and now we are lifelong friends with the parents." They remind me of comedy show. All the jokes are funny except the ones that might be about you. Believe me, they are not about you.

 

[CheshireSmile]

I think this is a huge part of the problem- CM's who enable the people who blatantly disregard the rules by not enforcing the rules and not calling security when needed. If things continue to progress this way, eventually the lines will just be huge free-for-alls - it won't be fun and it won't be safe.

I think you'd have a hard time finding a CM who is in a position where they are by themselves putting themselves in potential danger while waiting for Security to arrive by voluntarily stranding themselves in close vicinity with a very angry guest. As has already been stated in this thread, some guests will push themselves onto a ride even after they have already been told 'no'. If guests are that angry, what makes you think they will just stay put while you're waiting for Security to arrive and save you? Just because you don't see Security called and the situation diffused, don't think that the CM did nothing, lots more of these type of situations are handled behind the scenes than you would guess.