Roman Polanski.............

[SNylund]

You may wish to clarify this - I don't believe that George Clooney has signed the Free Polanski petition. I know you didn't say he did but it could be read that way or misunderstood.

There is a list of those who signed here.

Yeah I didn't mean he signed the petition, just that everytime I've seen him speak he comes across very arrogant, like he thinks he is the coolest thing ever and that no one should dare disagree with him and his wisdom, he just came to mind as one of those Hollywood types that seem really arrogant.

 

[WaltD4Me]

Just because someone has the means to flee the country to avoid prosecution doesn't mean the judical system should just forget it!

The people supporting this man need to be careful. You are judged by the company you keep.

TC

ITA! I've been saying this all week. They keep saying "It was 30 years ago." Yes, it was 30 years ago because he had the money and means to hide out of the country for 30 years. He should be rewarded for this? If he has a case, he needs to come back to this country and defend it. There are many, MANY fugitives out there, how long do they have to hide for until their crimes are forgiven?

 

[tinkerdorabelle]

I know he was involved with Natasha Kinski, what age was she? I believe she was young also. I was taken back by what I read about the victim stating that it's the media that caused most of her pain over the years, and that she is over this. Maybe they can find other ways also for him to make restitution but it is a crime, and it is despicable and he has to pay in some way for this. Having sex with a 13 yo is by no means acceptable in any way. Women are also abused in other cultures so the comment by Whoopi and others is ridiculous, and I usually like Whoopi.

 

[OceanAnnie]

I thought he was convicted and was awaiting sentencing when he fled. The conviction should still stand. He just needs the sentencing and a new address.

 

[Carly_Roach]

The "victim" of his crime is no longer a physical victim and wants all this to just go away so she'll have peace again. She continues to be a victim by the publicity that's raised because of these kinds of stories. The only purpose for extraditing RP back to the US is to satisfy the needs of those Americans who have never had anything to do with this case other than seeing a report on TV and are screaming for punishment. Pure and simple.

RP has remained out of the US for decades. Obviously US citizens aren't going to be raped or drugged by him. We are safe from this "heinous criminal".

If/when RP gets back here via extridition and if/when he is tried and if/when he is sentenced to prison time, the bloodthirst of those calling for punishment will be slaked only until the next "outrage du jour" comes along during the next 24 hour news cycle. Then RP and his "horrifying crimes" will be forgotten in favor of a Biden faux pas or a woman having triplets while living on welfare.

Sometimes it's just downright embarassing to be an American. I love my country but good God some of the people here....

FTR, nothing in my comments here is directed at any one poster on this thread. For those who say they're offended by my comments, please review some of the offensive things that were said to me because my opinion is different.

Then take it all with a grain of salt. I'm sure there'll be another scandal tomorrow that will give us an opportunity for righteous indignation that will make this scandal pale in comparison.

 

[Mermaid02]

The "victim" of his crime is no longer a physical victim and wants all this to just go away so she'll have peace again. She continues to be a victim by the publicity that's raised because of these kinds of stories. The only purpose for extraditing RP back to the US is to satisfy the needs of those Americans who have never had anything to do with this case other than seeing a report on TV and are screaming for punishment. Pure and simple.

RP has remained out of the US for decades. Obviously US citizens aren't going to be raped or drugged by him. We are safe from this "heinous criminal".

If/when RP gets back here via extridition and if/when he is tried and if/when he is sentenced to prison time, the bloodthirst of those calling for punishment will be slaked only until the next "outrage du jour" comes along during the next 24 hour news cycle. Then RP and his "horrifying crimes" will be forgotten in favor of a Biden faux pas or a woman having triplets while living on welfare.

Sometimes it's just downright embarassing to be an American. I love my country but good God some of the people here....

FTR, nothing in my comments here is directed at any one poster on this thread. For those who say they're offended by my comments, please review some of the offensive things that were said to me because my opinion is different.

Then take it all with a grain of salt. I'm sure there'll be another scandal tomorrow that will give us an opportunity for righteous indignation that will make this scandal pale in comparison.

Wow

 

[Carly_Roach]

Wow

Yeah. I know. Thanks for understanding.

 

[TurboKitteh]

I thought he was convicted and was awaiting sentencing when he fled. The conviction should still stand. He just needs the sentencing and a new address.

He also needs to face the charges of jumping bail and fleeing justice.

To those that think he should be freed because his victim has forgiven him forget that his crime was also against society, and that victim has not forgiven him.

Justice is best served when it's applied evenly to all people, regardless of their tragic pasts, money or artistic abilities. You break the law, you go to jail.

 

[Mermaid02]

Yeah. I know. Thanks for understanding.

I think I do understand~ you amaze me!

 

[brockash]

The "victim" of his crime is no longer a physical victim and wants all this to just go away so she'll have peace again. She continues to be a victim by the publicity that's raised because of these kinds of stories. The only purpose for extraditing RP back to the US is to satisfy the needs of those Americans who have never had anything to do with this case other than seeing a report on TV and are screaming for punishment. Pure and simple.

RP has remained out of the US for decades. Obviously US citizens aren't going to be raped or drugged by him. We are safe from this "heinous criminal".

If/when RP gets back here via extridition and if/when he is tried and if/when he is sentenced to prison time, the bloodthirst of those calling for punishment will be slaked only until the next "outrage du jour" comes along during the next 24 hour news cycle. Then RP and his "horrifying crimes" will be forgotten in favor of a Biden faux pas or a woman having triplets while living on welfare.

Sometimes it's just downright embarassing to be an American. I love my country but good God some of the people here....

FTR, nothing in my comments here is directed at any one poster on this thread. For those who say they're offended by my comments, please review some of the offensive things that were said to me because my opinion is different.

Then take it all with a grain of salt. I'm sure there'll be another scandal tomorrow that will give us an opportunity for righteous indignation that will make this scandal pale in comparison.

Wow, out of curiosity, do you have children? Would you feel the same if it was your child? Are you saying that you'd be okay if the person that did this to your child fled the country and never answered for the crime against your child?

 

[OceanAnnie]

He also needs to face the charges of jumping bail and fleeing justice.

To those that think he should be freed because his victim has forgiven him forget that his crime was also against society, and that victim has not forgiven him.

Justice is best served when it's applied evenly to all people, regardless of their tragic pasts, money or artistic abilities. You break the law, you go to jail.

Oh yes. By all means he needs to face the music for jumping bail and thwarting the justice system.

If RP didn't have the fame and fortune I wonder how many people would be standing up for him. So sad. I don't think the same of them anymore.

It all comes down to a man taking advantage of a 13 year old girl and the law.

 

[OceanAnnie]

The "victim" of his crime is no longer a physical victim and wants all this to just go away so she'll have peace again. She continues to be a victim by the publicity that's raised because of these kinds of stories. The only purpose for extraditing RP back to the US is to satisfy the needs of those Americans who have never had anything to do with this case other than seeing a report on TV and are screaming for punishment. Pure and simple.

RP has remained out of the US for decades. Obviously US citizens aren't going to be raped or drugged by him. We are safe from this "heinous criminal".

If/when RP gets back here via extridition and if/when he is tried and if/when he is sentenced to prison time, the bloodthirst of those calling for punishment will be slaked only until the next "outrage du jour" comes along during the next 24 hour news cycle. Then RP and his "horrifying crimes" will be forgotten in favor of a Biden faux pas or a woman having triplets while living on welfare.

Sometimes it's just downright embarassing to be an American. I love my country but good God some of the people here....

FTR, nothing in my comments here is directed at any one poster on this thread. For those who say they're offended by my comments, please review some of the offensive things that were said to me because my opinion is different.

Then take it all with a grain of salt. I'm sure there'll be another scandal tomorrow that will give us an opportunity for righteous indignation that will make this scandal pale in comparison.

What about the perpetrators of this kind of crime that don't have the financial means to flee? Too bad for them? They can sit and rot in jail because they didn't have the money to flee the system? While RP can go free? Is the justice system only for the little people? Last time I checked it wasn't.

 

[DisneyMomx7]

It amazes me too the way Debra Tate sticks up for him.

So it's been 30 years let's just forget it!

BTW it's been 40 years since the Tate murders, does she think we should let the Manson girls out of jail too? Those girls did horrendous things when they were 18 and 19 years old. Debra Tate thinks they should spend the rest of their life in jail. What was Polanski? 46 when he raped a 13 year old girl?

How in the world can she defend him?

 

[mariolatry]

I'm as liberal as they come and even I know that he needs to man up, get his butt back here, and face the consequences.

He had illegal sexual contact with a child. He broke the law. Period. That point has never been in contention.


ETA: If you google "Roman Polanski petition", you can find the names of the people who have signed the "Free Roman Polanski" petition. It's heartbreaking, some of the people on there. Natalie Portman? Seriously? I used to respect her.

 

[Carly_Roach]

I think I do understand~ you amaze me!

Thanks.

 

[JerseyJanice]

It amazes me too the way Debra Tate sticks up for him.

So it's been 30 years let's just forget it!

BTW it's been 40 years since the Tate murders, does she think we should let the Manson girls out of jail too? Those girls did horrendous things when they were 18 and 19 years old. Debra Tate thinks they should spend the rest of their life in jail. What was Polanski? 46 when he raped a 13 year old girl?

How in the world can she defend him?

ITA! I found her interview with Matt Lauer outright galling.

Every time a member of the Manson crew went in front of the parole board, she was there, front and center, demanding no mercy for them. While I agree with her that no one involved in the Manson crimes should ever see the light of day outside prison, Debra Tate's utter lack of compassion for this child--who she even has the nerve to call a "young woman"--is incredible.

She also stated that she thinks the charges against RP are politically motivated. That is so ridiculous! It's highly unlikely that anybody who worked in the D.A.'s office 32 years ago is still working there. How can it be "political" with so many different politicians elected to various offices in California since 1977? We can't allow people--no matter how talented they are perceived to be--to come into the U.S., take advantage of children, and flee the country to avoid prosecution.

The worst thing of all is that if RP had manned up and faced his punishment years ago, this would all be behind him now.

 

[trip]

I thought he was convicted and was awaiting sentencing when he fled. The conviction should still stand. He just needs the sentencing and a new address.

I thought an agreement had been made that he would plead quilty to a lesser offense (no trial) and he would be sentenced to time served (42 days). When it was time for the actual sentencing, he got word that the judge wasn't going to approve of the deal (judges don't have to approve of any deal) and was going to give a longer sentence.

Rather than find out his sentence he fled the country.

 

[EMom]

I am not entirely certain Mermaid02 meant "Wow" and, "I think I do understand -You amaze me!" as compliments. I also comprehend the intent of your statements and am appalled at how little it bothers you that this coward fled to avoid facing his punishment for raping and sodomizing a child. I say, bring him in any way we can. Sheesh, why didn't we put Dog the Bounty Hunter on it? He certainly found that serial rapist Andrew Luster, the Max Factor heir fast enough.

Again...Such disgusting irony that Polsanski expected justice for the murder of Sharon Tate and his unborn child, yet ran like a sniveling dog when it came HIS time to face justice. Let me think........Did Polanski chime in a few weeks ago when Susan Atkins was up for parole for murdering his wife and give the old, "Let bygones be bygones.....It was all so long ago.....People change" plea on her behalf? Noooooo.....No, he did not.

As for Debra Tate, the cynic in me says that she's sticking by Polanski because as long as he is portrayed as the pitiful, wronged, grieving widower of the murdered beautiful Sharon Tate, that keeps Tate's memory alive. It somehow sullies the story to say, "Sharon Tate, murdered wife of Roman Polanski, famous for raping and sodomizing children with glee." Too much ick factor, ya know? Debra Tate gave the "It wasn't 'rape' rape" song and dance too. Tacky as this is, there are actually some people who have been murdered in EVEN MORE HORRIBLE WAYS than Sharon Tate. Does that mean she wasn't 'murder' murdered? Uhhhh......No, I didn't think so. Perhaps Ms. Tate needs to familiarize herself with what rape actually is. Clearly, she can't recognize a perverted freak when she sees one.

Yes, Sharon Tate's murder "trumps" the rape of a 13 year old. But is it a contest???? Both are hideous crimes and BOTH must be punished.

 

[EMom]

BTW, I highly doubt any of Polanski's supporters are going to be sending their 13 y.o. daughters over to Uncle Roman's house for any "quality alone time" any time soon. He's not cured, he's just better at it. Honestly, if you were a young girl and he pulled this crap on you......After reading what happened to the US victim and how he walk off scot free to live the good life as a worshipped man, who would ever have the nerve to speak up? The handwriting was on the wall. He was untouchable. And if you do try to make him pay, he'll just fly off into the sunset to dwell among another set of eye-batting screwballs.

 

[Heidict]

The "victim" of his crime is no longer a physical victim and wants all this to just go away so she'll have peace again. She continues to be a victim by the publicity that's raised because of these kinds of stories.

She continues to be a victim because the offender ran. If he had stayed and faced his punishment, like a man (but we all know he is not) then she would not being going through this again. HE is at fault for the fact that this is being drug through the news again. HE is the reason she is unable to put this behind her. HE is the one raping her all over again in the media. HE is the reason it won't go away. HE is the reason she will not have peace. SHE CONTINUES TO BE A VICTIM BECAUSE ROMAN POLANSKI HAS MADE HER ONE AND IS MAKING HER ONE OVER AGAIN. By refusing extradition HE is guaranteeing that this will be all over the news for months to come.

The only purpose for extraditing RP back to the US is to satisfy the needs of those Americans who have never had anything to do with this case other than seeing a report on TV and are screaming for punishment. Pure and simple.

No, the purpose for extradition is because he is a fugitive from justice. He was never sentenced for his crime that HE PLEAD GUILTY TO! We the public have no say in the matter.

RP has remained out of the US for decades. Obviously US citizens aren't going to be raped or drugged by him. We are safe from this "heinous criminal".

So, as long as the US citizens are safe, then it's okay? Who cares if he happens to be doing this same thing to children in other countries?

Sometimes it's just downright embarassing to be an American. I love my country but good God some of the people here....

I agree. Especially when people are signing petitions and are supporting the drugging and rape of a child. Sickens me.

hing in my comments here is directed at any one poster on this thread. For those who say they're offended by my comments, please review some of the offensive things that were said to me because my opinion is different.

And you are certainly entitled to your opinion, as are we.

Then take it all with a grain of salt. I'm sure there'll be another scandal tomorrow that will give us an opportunity for righteous indignation that will make this scandal pale in comparison.

That is the sad thing about this world these days. There are alot of sick and twisted people out there.

I think I do understand~ you amaze me!

See, I was thinking sickens and disgust is more appropriate.