ROFR Thread July to Sept 2022 *PLEASE SEE FIRST POST FOR INSTRUCTIONS & FORMATTING TOOL*

[Einstein509]

Maybe they will buy back enough points to take out the SSR treehouses and do something else with that property. My guess.

I don’t see us renewing the AP’s next year.
As a whole, I am tired of the WDW CEO‘s managing style. $$$$ grab for everything. The plastic DVC ID that WDW make us show to get discounts, was just about as cheap as it gets. Can anyone name something WDW still gives you for free?

I want to list our (details removed). I know, crazy.
It’s still cheaper than $200pp and not enough profit for WDW to buy it back.

There also seems to be limited availability in DVC rooms for the balance of the year.
This week though, cash resorts -POFQ & Riverside & most of the value, are available with FL residents & AP discounts. Before Covid & the 50th that would never be, especially FQ with discounts within a week.

We didn't renew our APs this year. The price would have been nearly double from what we were paying just a couple of years ago.

We'll be staying at DVC, since we have the points, but going over to Universal. Kind of done with WDW at this point because of the $$$ grabs.

 

[alohatok1986]

SGGB1992---$141-$38329-250-AKV-Aug-0/21, 250/22, 250/23, 250/24- sent 6/15, passed 7/16

I'm so happy for you but also so frustrated that 4 AKV contracts sent after me have now gotten responses before me

 

[HIRyeDVC]

Except that the minimum direct is 150 pts, and sales for SSR direct and have been super slow recently. Last month of available data was under 3k.

This is what makes me believe decisions are not just about whether they can turn for profit but also whether they can turn a resale buyer into direct buyer if they make resale inconvenient.

Another round of huge incentives are coming for the sold out resorts. And this is one of the ways to squeeze out the resale market. Close the price difference gap while making the resale process long and painful.

 

[Sandisw]

Another round of huge incentives are coming for the sold out resorts. And this is one of the ways to squeeze out the resale market. Close the price difference gap while making the resale process long and painful.

I am not sure that we will see a sold off sale until next year when more of VGF is sold out. Those fire sales happened when they wanted to offer buyers more than one resort during a down time. They don't need to do that right now, with VDH coming into play in the next 6 months...

I could be wrong, but I just don't see it happening anytime soon.

 

[kmill99]

Sorry about that. I knew it wouldn't last long so I jumped on it.

Yeah... saw that listed, was about to inform wife and make an offer and it was nowhere to be seen again... gone with a quickness! Best luck! It's a great little nugget to pad a contract.

 

[Red Dog Run]

We didn't renew our APs this year. The price would have been nearly double from what we were paying just a couple of years ago.

We'll be staying at DVC, since we have the points, but going over to Universal. Kind of done with WDW at this point because of the $$$ grabs.

Doing the exact same. Staying 8 days, 4 days at BLT and 4 at VGF, and going to Universal 3 days and around Florida and relaxing the others. Except for what we spend at the resorts, Disney gets nothing more of our money, for now. Tired of the hoopla. Love, love my home resorts.

 

[AulaniNutz]

Looking forward to getting that Grand Villa next May! Hope this closes soon so I can snag it....

aulaninutz---$115-$36815-290-AUL-Aug-22/21, 580/22, 290/23, 290/24- sent 6/15

Yeah!

aulaninutz---$115-$36815-290-AUL-Aug-22/21, 580/22, 290/23, 290/24- sent 6/15, passed 7/16

 

[HIRyeDVC]

I am not sure that we will see a sold off sale until next year when more of VGF is sold out. Those fire sales happened when they wanted to offer buyers more than one resort during a down time. They don't need to do that right now, with VDH coming into play in the next 6 months...

I could be wrong, but I just don't see it happening anytime soon.

Perhaps. I don’t know. Seems like they’re buying a whole lot of SSR these days. I think they could use it as step down resort as they don’t really have one at the moment. Even after VDH starts selling, it will be too expensive for the average family looking into buying for the first time. It also gives more options for those not seeking Riviera, VGF, and VDH.

 

[Nursemanit]

I am not sure that we will see a sold off sale until next year when more of VGF is sold out. Those fire sales happened when they wanted to offer buyers more than one resort during a down time. They don't need to do that right now, with VDH coming into play in the next 6 months...

I could be wrong, but I just don't see it happening anytime soon.

VDH will have little to no effect on East Coast sales - lots of us go to DL once or never.

 

[Sandisw]

VDH will have little to no effect on East Coast sales - lots of us go to DL once or never.

But it still gives DVD millions of points to sell on top of VGF and RIV.

Prior to the pandemic, deals one sold out resorts wasn’t a thing. The fire sale strategy last years was a new one, but all before VGF came into play

They just raised the price on SSR too. Could have left it at $186 to give people an option. They didn’t.

Like I said I just don’t see them needing a fire sale for the WDW resort this year when plenty of points to sell.

 

[BamaGuy44]

So I'd imagine one of the reasons for the "at least 30 days" rule is that it makes it much more arduous for buyers to get a good deal. Imagine we always heard back in ROFR in 24 hours? You may be much more inclined to make low offers as you wouldn't need to wait for 30 days+ to find out if you passed or not. As it stands, a lot of people don't want to waste a whole month and so offer what they think will get through ROFR

100%. Exactly what we did, overpaid so we had a good shot of getting through ROFR after 2+ months of waiting and getting taken. Impatience won out. I hate the process enough that my next one will probably be direct.

 

[NVDISFamily]

VDH will have little to no effect on East Coast sales - lots of us go to DL once or never.

Tell that to room availability at VGC at 7 months. Now that I have a login and can see rooms there, it’s funny how every room category goes from available most days while still just outside of 7 month window to gone within minutes of the 8am window hitting at 7 months. Sure it might be locals who don’t own there trying to grab a room but it seems like there are more than enough people who are in the DVC system elsewhere who would like to visit the OG mouse house in Cali.

I agree VDH won’t have a huge impact on sales at WDW, but it might hurt Aulani more and plenty of people will want some Cali points in the portfolio for the occasional trip.

 

[DKZB]

Thanks! Interesting though because I didn't think they could change the title company. Hasn't most of the work already been done by the title company prior to ROFR? They've at least done some work. Do they just not get paid anything for what they did?

No, the title company doesn’t do too much except collect the deposit and send the package to ROFR before it passes or is taken. Most of the work is after passing.

I can’t say for certain whether they pay any piece of it to the original title company (I don’t think they do) but I can say for sure that Disney handles the closing for contracts they take.

 

[NVDISFamily]

Question to my ROFR thread amigos. Does it matter how you submit your ROFR offer in terms of names? If we perhaps put it with our Middle name at first but then realize that we need to take it off to match our membership after can that be done after ROFR but before closing on the contract?

 

[HIRyeDVC]

Tell that to room availability at VGC at 7 months. Now that I have a login and can see rooms there, it’s funny how every room category goes from available most days while still just outside of 7 month window to gone within minutes of the 8am window hitting at 7 months. Sure it might be locals who don’t own there trying to grab a room but it seems like there are more than enough people who are in the DVC system elsewhere who would like to visit the OG mouse house in Cali.

I agree VDH won’t have a huge impact on sales at WDW, but it might hurt Aulani more and plenty of people will want some Cali points in the portfolio for the occasional trip.

Your description is accurate, except for December and New Year. It’ll be interesting to see VGC 7 month availability once VDH comes on line. Aulani sales couldn’t get any worse. It wont be sold out for another 40 years IMO.

 

[Sandisw]

Question to my ROFR thread amigos. Does it matter how you submit your ROFR offer in terms of names? If we perhaps put it with our Middle name at first but then realize that we need to take it off to match our membership after can that be done after ROFR but before closing on the contract?

I don’t think it requires a new submission but you do want to get it corrected so let the title company know.

 

[NVDISFamily]

I don’t think it requires a new submission but you do want to get it corrected so let the title company know.

Thanks. Not made any offers (and I really should not), but just asking LOL. We are in contract re-write mode for all of the direct stuff and I’m 99% sure they should fix our names on the direct points to match our VGC deed(s). I really need to stop, but if we “need” to get another 50 to 100 points at CCV I might try and grab one in the coming weeks/months

EDIT - The VGC points will be a separate membership (June UY). RIV and CCV points (direct as of now) are both DEC UY and will be on the other membership. I’m guessing it’s not super important if they are the same or is it? I’m guessing it will be good to keep the names the same across the memberships and deeds as it will likely help us in future years as we get the add-on bug and we just know to keep everything the same.

 

[erinkristen04]

Ok, this may be a dumb question but the recent posts about inclusion of a middle name/matching membership got me thinking…

How do they link up/connect the DVC membership to your MDE profile? My husband goes by his middle name, so that’s what his MDE profile we set up years ago uses. We are currently waiting to close on our first DVC contract, and with it being a real estate transaction we are using his legal name instead. Could there be some sort of hiccup with associating his membership with his existing MDE due to a discrepancy with the name?

 

[Sandisw]

Thanks. Not made any offers (and I really should not), but just asking LOL. We are in contract re-write mode for all of the direct stuff and I’m 99% sure they should fix our names on the direct points to match our VGC deed(s). I really need to stop, but if we “need” to get another 50 to 100 points at CCV I might try and grab one in the coming weeks/months

EDIT - The VGC points will be a separate membership (June UY). RIV and CCV points (direct as of now) are both DEC UY and will be on the other membership. I’m guessing it’s not super important if they are the same or is it? I’m guessing it will be good to keep the names the same across the memberships and deeds as it will likely help us in future years as we get the add-on bug and we just know to keep everything the same.

If they are different UYs, it doesn’t matter until you go to buy. We have owned contracts in which some included the middle initial and some did not, but they were in different UYs.

Now, they are all titled the same as we made sure as we added on more points. Our Aug UY is owned with our 3 adult children as well so we included middle initials for everyone.

 

[Sandisw]

Ok, this may be a dumb question but the recent posts about inclusion of a middle name/matching membership got me thinking…

How do they link up/connect the DVC membership to your MDE profile? My husband goes by his middle name, so that’s what his MDE profile we set up years ago uses. We are currently waiting to close on our first DVC contract, and with it being a real estate transaction we are using his legal name instead. Could there be some sort of hiccup with associating his membership with his existing MDE due to a discrepancy with the name?

I believe it is based on being set up with the DVC account. It will be the same email as MDE and, that is how it recognizes him,

It is why every owner has to have both MDE and DVC accounts set up to get the new digital DVC card showing on the Magic Mobile pass