ROFR Thread July to Sept 2022 *PLEASE SEE FIRST POST FOR INSTRUCTIONS & FORMATTING TOOL*

[TraJon]

There is an international CCV at www.dvcstore.com for 175 points at $160, September use year. That’s very tempting.

Oops December use year!

 

[NVDISFamily]

Didn’t you say you were done?….

For the next few months….. yes.

I’ll need at least 200 ish more CCV to live out my every other year WDW trip plans. We are light on CCV points

 

[bryaalre]

Wake me up when the ROFR monster has had it's full and I can bid on CCV for 140 to 150 ish a point. I see a ton of CCV contracts on the market in my use year that are aged near or over 2 months but I bet the ROFR monster is keeping them from hitting their true market value and thus... they will sit

I am currently trying to get a CCV contract and recently had one taken at $158 a point and now have one submitted at $168 a point. I would like to get it cheaper but at this point, I'm just hoping to get it to pass. I see the market drift lower but it means nothing as I won't look at those contracts since I'm not wasting my time on ROFR when I know it will get taken.

 

[PixiePoppins]

Yay!!
PixiePoppins---$159-$26447-160-PVB-Mar-0/21, 24/22, 160/23- sent 7/1, passed 8/2

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I like stripped/partially stripped contracts so I don’t have to add the dues at closing.

Everything is negotiable.

 

[AKVDisneyFan]

Everything is negotiable.

This is true

 

[HIRyeDVC]

Everything is negotiable.

Some of the listings on Fidelity are labeled with “negotiable“. I’m like really? Good to know.

 

[pianomanzano]

Some of the listings on Fidelity are labeled with “negotiable“. I’m like really? Good to know.

Since it’s fidelity and given how poor they’ve been with QA lately, probably the details of the listing are negotiable lol

 

[Noles235]

Some of the listings on Fidelity are labeled with “negotiable“. I’m like really? Good to know.

Some say negotiable but not at all.
Same with motivated seller.

 

[Paul Stupin]

Wake me up when the ROFR monster has had it's full and I can bid on CCV for 140 to 150 ish a point. I see a ton of CCV contracts on the market in my use year that are aged near or over 2 months but I bet the ROFR monster is keeping them from hitting their true market value and thus... they will sit

Why is $140-$150 CCV’s true market value? That was about the price I paid several years ago, but as we’ve all noted prices do have a tendency to trend up over the years, and I don’t think CCV has gone up unreasonably. Thats one of the benefits to owning DVC, no? Contracts are sitting because owners aren’t accepting lowball offers. That’s good for all of us in the long run.

 

[ahintz]

Just got the news - our Aulani contract passed! Excited to get our account setup and to book our first trip!

ahintz---$125-$14678-100-AUL-Feb-0/21, 100/22, 100/23, 100/24- sent 7/1, passed 8/3

 

[Paul Stupin]

Just got the news - our Aulani contract passed! Excited to get our account setup and to book our first trip!

ahintz---$125-$14678-100-AUL-Feb-0/21, 100/22, 100/23, 100/24- sent 7/1, passed 8/3

Congrats!

 

[NVDISFamily]

Why is $140-$150 CCV’s true market value? That was about the price I paid several years ago, but as we’ve all noted prices do have a tendency to trend up over the years, and I don’t think CCV has gone up unreasonably. Thats one of the benefits to owning DVC, no? Contracts are sitting because owners aren’t accepting lowball offers. That’s good for all of us in the long run.

It depends. If you had to sell your CCV points and they had to go on the market with a bunch of others that were out there aging 60+ days on the market at a price "above ROFR" why would one sell above any of the others that were sitting out there? Yes, some will sell at this higher price. If you wanted to call that the market price, it's the market price @ that much lower sales volume.

Price elasticity (more sell at lower prices and less sell at higher prices) and the artificial floor created by ROFR leads to more contracts sitting on the market. In a market with no ROFR floor, those who were more motivated to sell could lower price to move their contracts quicker and this could even help you if you wanted to sell at that higher end of the price curve as perhaps there was a lot less inventory at the lower prices and if someone really wanted to buy a resale ROFR they would see a lot less contracts and move on your higher price to get what they want.

I'm not saying 140 to 150 is the true value. It's the price that would tempt me to buy in earlier than I "should" as I want the points but don't need them...... If the market never moves this low, then I'll wait until I have more funds to buy at that higher price point and decide what to do at that time. If I had to guess the market value it would be between 140(low) to 170 (high) with the median somewhere around the high 150s (adjustments for stripped contracts, contract size, etc. also factored in).

I made a fun supply demand graph in last quarters ROFR thread that would also be a good reference for this conversation

 

[Cyberc1978]

Everything is negotiable.

Agree the last few times I have made an offer it was with sellers paying 2022 dues for all 2022 points. Even though we didn’t come to an agreement the sellers did accept to pay the dues.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

It depends. If you had to sell your CCV points and they had to go on the market with a bunch of others that were out there aging 60+ days on the market at a price "above ROFR" why would one sell above any of the others that were sitting out there? Yes, some will sell at this higher price. If you wanted to call that the market price, it's the market price @ that much lower sales volume.

Price elasticity (more sell at lower prices and less sell at higher prices) and the artificial floor created by ROFR leads to more contracts sitting on the market. In a market with no ROFR floor, those who were more motivated to sell could lower price to move their contracts quicker and this could even help you if you wanted to sell at that higher end of the price curve as perhaps there was a lot less inventory at the lower prices and if someone really wanted to buy a resale ROFR they would see a lot less contracts and move on your higher price to get what they want.

I'm not saying 140 to 150 is the true value. It's the price that would tempt me to buy in earlier than I "should" as I want the points but don't need them...... If the market never moves this low, then I'll wait until I have more funds to buy at that higher price point and decide what to do at that time. If I had to guess the market value it would be between 140(low) to 170 (high) with the median somewhere around the high 150s (adjustments for stripped contracts, contract size, etc. also factored in).

I made a fun supply demand graph in last quarters ROFR thread that would also be a good reference for this conversation

Another thing that active ROFR has done is that the market heavily benefits sellers of loaded contracts. Buyers aren't offering on stripped contracts because they're too cheap to pass.

 

[Stingberg]

Stingberg---$118-$31045-270-AUL-Feb-0/22, 0/23, 270/24-Subsidized Dues-sent 8/3

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Stingberg---$118-$31045-270-AUL-Feb-0/22, 0/23, 270/24-Subsidized Dues-sent 8/3

 

[Dvcl0v3r]

PASSED


AKV:

UbieTinkingMon---$138-$32990-220-AKV-Sep-0/21, 222/22, 220/23- sent 6/2, passed 7/1

DVCBeachBum---$130-$32500-250-AKV-Dec-0/20, 0/21, 347/22, 250/23-Seller pay MF Close- sent 6/10, passed 7/13

FS1---$124-$25609-200-AKV-Jun-0/21, 138/22, 200/23-Int’l seller- sent 6/13, passed 7/14

SGGB1992---$141-$38329-250-AKV-Aug-0/21, 250/22, 250/23, 250/24- sent 6/15, passed 7/16

flute38---$134-$28531-200-AKV-Jun-0/21, 117/22, 200/23, 200/24-Int'l seller- sent 6/20, passed 7/18

FreemanFam---$127-$26749-200-AKV-Oct-0/21, 194/22, 200/23-Int'l seller- sent 6/23, passed 7/20


AUL:

aulaninutz---$115-$36815-290-AUL-Aug-22/21, 580/22, 290/23, 290/24- sent 6/15, passed 7/16

Imurhuckleberry---$130-$29325-220-AUL-Mar-0/21, 0/22, 220/23, 220/24- sent 6/27, passed 7/25

Hokies37---$108-$13535-120-AUL-Aug-0/21, 0/22, 120/23- sent 6/29, passed 7/29


BCV:

babecca1---$175-$4988-25-BCV-Sep-0/20, 0/21, 25/22, 25/23- sent 6/20, passed 7/18

flipflopsandpitstops---$173-$19056-100-BCV-Aug-0/21, 100/22, 100/23, 100/24- sent 6/22, passed 7/20

BLT:

Disneycouple99(seller)---$182-$10073-50-BLT-Dec-0/21, 50/22, 50/23- sent 6/3, passed 7/1

Disneycouple99(seller)---$177-$9823-50-BLT-Dec-0/21, 50/22, 50/23- sent 6/9, passed 7/7

garegco---$175-$29900-160-BLT-Oct-160/21, 320/22, 160/23- sent 6/8, passed 7/13

Newv88---$160-$33130-200-BLT-Feb-0/21, 96/22, 124/23-International Seller- sent 6/11, passed 7/14



BWV:


MISCdisney21---$135-$7904-50-BWV-Dec-0/20, 0/21, 50/22, 50/23- sent 6/15, passed 7/14


HH:





OKW:


DEN8UML---$105-$23100-220-OKW-Sep-0/21, 168/22, 220/23, 220/24-International Seller- sent 6/29, passed 7/25

MrsDfromTN---$105-$24354-210-OKW-Aug-0/21, 172/22, 210/23, 210/24- sent 6/27, passed 7/29


OKW EXTENDED:





PVB:


StoweFoSho---$162-$22725-130-PVB-Dec-48/21, 260/22, 130/23- sent 6/10, passed 7/5

erinkristen04---$164-$16001-90-PVB-Mar-0/21, 124/22, 90/23-international seller- sent 6/10, passed 7/13

PolynesianPip---$155-$18196-110-PVB-Jun-0/21, 55/22, 110/23, 110/24- sent 6/12, passed 7/13


RIV:


wdwdaddy4life---$118-$18880-160-RIV-Dec-160/21, 320/22, 160/23-sent 6/8, passed 7/5


SSR:

Junebug2---$123.50-$30305-225-SSR-Aug-0/21, 225/22, 225/23-International seller- sent 6/10, passed 7/7

Minnie84---$133-$14599-100-SSR-Jun-0/21, 181/22, 100/23- sent 6/23, passed 7/20

mrsap---$127-$31865-230-SSR-Apr-0/21, 460/22, 230/23- sent 6/17, passed 7/25

Disneykate605---$130-$14297-100-SSR-Sep-0/21, 160/22, 100/23- sent 6/28, passed 7/24


VGC:


elenex---$260-$14453-50-VGC-Feb-0/21, 50/22, 50/23, 50/24- sent 6/7, passed 7/5

NVDISFamily---$255-$64494-250-VGC-Jun-0/21, 0/22, 242/23- sent 6/10, passed 7/13


VGF:


NorthernMickey---$165-$25645-150-VGF-Sep-0/21, 85/22, 150/23-Seller pays MF ‘22- sent 6/1, passed 7/5


WL/ BRV:

whochschild---$110-$17760-150-BRV@WL-Aug-0/21, 75/22, 150/23, 150/24- sent 6/24, passed 7/24

Stargazer65(Seller)---$124-$13079-100-BRV@WL-Sep-0/20, 0/21, 0/22, 100/23- sent 6/27, passed 7/25

TraJon---$119-$24516-200-BRV@WL-Oct-0/20, 0/21, 300/22, 200/23-Seller pays MF ‘22- sent 6/28, passed 7/26


WL/ CCV:

Slow&Steady---$165-$35564-200-CCV@WL-Aug-0/21, 400/22, 200/23- sent 6/8, passed 7/5




VB:

jgarrity1---$70-$13265-170-VB-Jun-0/21, 335/22, 170/23, 170/24-Seller pays 75% MF22- sent 6/21, passed 7/18

Xlkrum24---$75-$9216-100-VB-Aug-0/21, 161/22, 100/23, 100/24- sent 6/27, passed 7/24



WAITING




AKV:



kmill99---$135-$9124-60-AKV-Dec-0/20, 0/21, 90/22, 60/23- sent 6/14

mickeyhellyeah—$128-$29049-220-AKV-Mar 0/21, 0/22, 220/23 - sent 6/18

DHofCrazyMouser---$143-$5801-35-AKV-Oct-0/21, 50/22, 35/23- sent 6/29

BunnyhugSK---$130-$28600-220-AKV-Feb-88/21, 220/22, 220/23-Seller pays closing- sent 6/29

Hereforthechurros---$132-$27720-210-AKV-Mar-0/21, 195/22, 210/23, 210/24-Seller pays Closing- sent 7/13

AdventurerKat---$138-$5112-30-AKV-Dec-0/20, 0/21, 60/22, 30/23- sent 7/15

geargrinder---$136-$29285-200-AKV-Jun-0/21, 160/22, 200/23-International Seller- sent 7/19

badeacon---$130-$15806-110-AKV-Jun-0/21, 113/22, 110/23, 110/24-seller pays closing- sent 7/27

Jimmy Geppetto---$125-$11767-90-AKV-Dec-90/21, 180/22, 90/23- sent 7/27


AUL:



ahintz---$125-$14678-100-AUL-Feb-0/21, 100/22, 100/23, 100/24- sent 7/1


MrsDfromTN---$140-$30173-200-AUL-Mar-0/21, 200/22, 200/23, 200/24-Subsidized dues- sent 7/6


BCV:



MalorieA---$166-$13576-75-BCV-Mar-0/21, 150/22, 75/23, 75/24- sent 7/11


BLT:


YellowHouse---$173-$29681-160-BLT-Jun-0/21, 160/22, 160/23, 160/24- sent 7/4

enticethemoose---$167-$22630-130-BLT-Oct-0/21, 248/22, 130/23-seller pays closing- sent 7/5

Sunnyore---$170-$5157-25-BLT-Aug-0/21, 50/22, 25/23- sent 7/12

quakerlaw---$175-$17869-100-BLT-Feb-0/21, 0/22, 186/23-seller pays 50% CC- sent 7/22

wing91---$160-$34000-200-BLT-Feb-0/21, 200/22, 200/23- sent 7/26

kalag---$160-$26370-160-BLT-Dec-0/20, 0/21, 240/22, 160/23-seller pays MF '22- sent 7/29

kalag---$160-$26370-160-BLT-Dec-0/20, 0/21, 248/22, 160/23-seller pays MF '22- sent 7/29


BWV:


Newv88---$165-$13054-75-BWV-Feb-0/21, 0/22, 75/23- sent 7/1

ValW---$154-$6137-35-BWV-Dec-0/21, 70/22, 35/23- sent 7/8

TheGambler22---$156-$13636-80-BWV-Oct-0/20, 0/21, 122/22, 80/23- sent 7/20

Disneycouple99---$165-$9253-50-BWV-Oct-0/21, 50/22, 50/23- sent 7/28


HH:

RedDogRun(seller)---$104-$5877-50-HH-Apr-0/21, 75/22, 50/23- sent 6/15

Paul 55555---$79.78-$18719-210-HH-Dec-202/21, 210/22, 210/23-Splitting MF'22- sent 7/13


OKW:



Keirabella2012---$108-$27633-230-OKW-Dec-0/21, 230/22, 230/23- sent 7/6


CVG---$110-$18462-150-OKW-Aug-0/21, 150/22, 150/23, 150/24- sent 7/13



OKW EXTENDED:




PVB:



kmill99---$160-$17030-100-PVB-Apr-0/21, 171/22, 90/23, 100/24- sent 6/17

lovethesun12---$164-$9616-54-PVB-Dec-0/20, 54/21, 108/22, 54/23- sent 7/6

alohatok1986---$173-$18674-100-PVB-Dec-0/21, 200/22, 100/23- sent 7/13

alohatok1986---$184-$10002-50-PVB-Dec-0/21, 37/22, 50/23- sent 7/19

xqueenoffoolsx---$155-$10279-60-PVB-Sep-0/21, 96/22, 60/23- sent 7/24

heather2328---$158-$21224-125-PVB-Apr-0/21, 226/22, 125/23, 125/24- sent 7/29


RIV:



Dvcl0v3r---$135-$7450-50-RIV-Oct-0/20, 0/21, 25/22, 50/23- sent 6/20

pianomanzano---$125-$13888-100-RIV-Dec-74/21, 100/22, 100/23- sent 7/27


SSR:



unclelude---$128-$14104-100-SSR-Sep-0/20, 0/21, 200/22, 100/23- sent 6/22

baileykw---$124-$21088-160-SSR-Sep-0/20, 0/21, 160/22, 160/23- sent 6/29

Hiddenmickey75---$124-$10600-75-SSR-Oct-0/20, 0/21, 75/22, 75/23- sent 7/1

Sanveaz---$133-$22343-160-SSR-Feb--1/21, 144/22, 160/23, 160/24-Seller pays closing- sent 7/5

tarajean1962---$138-$22256-150-SSR-Oct-0/20, 0/21, 274/22, 150/23- sent 7/6

JENinNORCAL---$110-$22575-200-SSR-Sep-0/20, 200/21, 200/22, 200/23-sellers pays MF 22- sent 7/8

Shelle88---$116-$15594-120-SSR-Apr-0/21, 120/22, 120/23, 120/24- sent 7/11

MaleficentUK---$115-$23000-200-SSR-Aug-0/21, 0/22, 8/23, 200/24-Seller pays MF '23- sent 7/14




VGC:



Jacie---$260-$41600-160-VGC-Jun-0/21, 0/22, 160/23, 160/24-Seller pays closing- sent 6/30

The_MT---$265-$27286-100-VGC-Jun-0/21, 192/22, 100/23- sent 7/5

Heroes_or_Villains---$260-$43516-160-VGC-Sep-0/20, 0/21, 320/22, 160/23- sent 7/14


VGF:



NickBCV---$162-$16200-100-VGF-Apr-0/21, 33/22, 100/23-Seller pays CC- sent 7/12


WL/ BRV:


benedib99(seller)---$111-$17300-150-BRV@WL-Dec-0/21, 103/22, 150/23- sent 6/24

MISCDis21---$140-$7732-50-BRV@WL-Dec-0/20, 0/21, 25/22, 50/23- sent 6/28

Stargazer65---$119-$19822-150-BRV@WL-Jun-3/21, 150/22, 150/23, 150/24- sent 6/30

MotherKnowsBest---$116-$19425-150-BRV@WL-Mar-150/21, 150/22, 150/23, 150/24- sent 7/6

Joel22---$161-$18868-110-CCV@WL-Dec-0/20, 0/21, 68/22, 110/23- sent 7/12


WL/ CCV:



bryaalre---$168-$27270-150-CCV@WL-Sep-0/21, 300/22, 150/23- sent 6/29

badeacon---$156-$17170-100-CCV@WL-Feb-0/21, 0/22, 200/23, 100/24- sent 7/15

Arguetafamily---$160-$28330-175-CCV@WL-Dec-0/20, 87/21, 175/22, 175/23-Seller pays closing- sent 7/15

hogwartsdropout---$173-$27075-150-CCV@WL-Jun-0/21, 165/22, 150/23-Seller pays closing- sent 7/15

disjseag---$165-$27600-155-CCV@WL-Dec-0/21, 155/22, 155/23- sent 7/16

wvujeb---$160-$30005-175-CCV@WL-Mar-0/21, 205/22, 175/23- sent 7/20

Ericlaurie---$160-$18537-110-CCV@WL-Apr--1/21, 26/22, 110/23, 110/24- sent 7/21

Whitneyleigh10---$165-$22074-125-CCV@WL-Dec-0/20, 0/21, 90/22, 125/23- sent 7/26


VB:


Pamkat1820---$69-$7499-100-VB-Jun-0/21, 0/22, 100/23- sent 7/28


TAKEN



AKV:



geargrinder---$135-$25100-180-AKV-Sep-0/21, 310/22, 180/23- sent 6/13, taken 7/18

alohatok1986---$136-$16122-110-AKV-Aug-0/21, 110/22, 110/23-split '22 MF- sent 6/10, taken 7/19

JKS DVC---$130-$13375-100-AKV-Jun-0/21, 100/22, 100/23, 100/24-Seller pays closing- sent 6/22, taken 7/28


AUL:



BCV:




BLT:


Sunnyore---$165-$9088-50-BLT-Aug-0/21, 43/22, 50/23- sent 6/9, taken 7/6

ThingamabobsIGot20---$165-$28301-160-BLT-Apr-0/21, 160/22, 160/23- sent 6/5, taken 7/6

MaleficentUK---$157-$26515-160-BLT-Mar-0/21, 400/22, 80/23, 160/24- sent 6/9, taken 7/12

Stargazer65---$173-$9249-50-BLT-Jun-0/21, 0/22, 50/23, 50/24- sent 6/14, taken 7/19

Flash_Sloth---$165-$22281-125-BLT-Oct-0/21, 125/22, 125/23- sent 6/10, taken 7/20

golex---$165-$31139-180-BLT-Feb-0/21, 0/22, 180/23, 180/24- sent 6/9, taken 7/21


BWV:




HH:




OKW:





OKW EXTENDED:




PVB:





SSR:


LadybugsMum(seller)---$126-$13150-100-SSR-Dec-0/21, 42/22, 100/23- sent 6/6, taken 7/6

LadybugsMum(seller)---$126-$28350-210-SSR-Dec-0/21, 184/22, 210/23- sent 6/6, taken 7/6

Shelle88---$119-$15930-120-SSR-Feb-0/21, 227/22, 120/23, 120/24- sent 6/6, taken 7/7

sahmoffour---$125-$33082-250-SSR-Aug-0/21, 250/22, 250/23-Seller pays closing- sent 6/7, taken 7/13

Guppy1013---$127-$21114-150-SSR-Oct-0/20, 111/21, 150/22, 150/23- sent 6/11, taken 7/14

julieack---$125-$20684-150-SSR-Oct-0/20, 150/21, 150/22, 150/23- sent 6/20, taken 7/14

TheGambler22---$135-$11219-75-SSR-Sep-0/20, 75/21, 75/22, 75/23- sent 6/21, taken 7/14

Pamkat1820---$134-$8744-60-SSR-Feb-0/21, 30/22, 60/23, 60/24-Seller pays dues- sent 6/15, taken 7/15

CathoDad22---$130-$28315-200-SSR-Feb-12/21, 200/22, 200/23, 200/24- sent 6/14, taken 7/19

Whitneyleigh10---$128-$21069-150-SSR-Dec-0/20, 0/21, 150/22, 150/23- sent 6/14, taken 7/19

christophles---$110-$17590-150-SSR-Aug-0/21, 75/22, 150/23- sent 6/22, taken 7/28

brf5003---$118-$6429-50-SSR-Mar-0/21, 0/22, 25/23, 50/24- sent 6/30, taken 7/28


VGC:




VGF:




WL/ BRV:





WL/ CCV:

hogwartsdropout---$160-$41069-250-CCV@WL-Jun-0/21, 0/22, 250/23- sent 6/8, taken 7/12

Arguetafamily---$155-$24390-150-CCV@WL-Apr-0/21, 150/22, 150/23, 150/24-Seller pays closing- sent 6/12, taken 7/15


VB:

Dvcl0v3r---$135-$7450-50-RIV-Oct-0/20, 0/21, 25/22, 50/23- sent 6/20 approved 8/3

 

[The_MT]

The_MT---$265-$27286-100-VGC-Jun-0/21, 192/22, 100/23- sent 7/5, passed 8/3

Woohoo!!!!

 

[The_MT]

Stingberg---$118-$31045-270-AUL-Feb-0/22, 0/23, 270/24-Subsidized Dues-sent 8/3

woah, you are living my dream! that's an amazing price