ROFR Thread Jan to March 2022 *PLEASE SEE FIRST POST FOR INSTRUCTIONS & FORMATTING TOOL*

[princesscinderella]

Probably true with resort studios. If the rumors are true with no kitchenette in the resort studio, not everyone is a fan of it. I’d think with new points being sold. The competition of getting the one-three bedrooms will be even more difficult.

We as owners of VGF1 are not happy about the new addition for that very reason. They have changed what we bought into and are diluting our ownership ability to book what we bought.

 

[StacyLovesDisney]

Are loaded small point 2042 contracts really worth a $10-15 point premium? Like say one with double points? Does that make sense? I have an accepted offer but just saw a lower point contract not loaded for $10 a point less

 

[Ginamarie]

Here we go!!

Ginamarie---$70-$13501-160-HH-Oct-0/20, 104/21, 160/22, 160/23-Seller Pays MF 2021- sent 1/28

We loved our stay in HHI so much that we had to buy points there. This will get us a summer 2023 vacation.. and then I'm probably going to need more HHI points!

 

[Chia1974]

Are loaded small point 2042 contracts really worth a $10-15 point premium? Like say one with double points? Does that make sense? I have an accepted offer but just saw a lower point contract not loaded for $10 a point less

Do the math and decide you need the points sooner or later.
Apparently Disney is buying back frenzy of 2042 resorts. If it’s too low that you could possibly lose it.

 

[Chia1974]

We as owners of VGF1 are not happy about the new addition for that very reason. They have changed what we bought into and are diluting our ownership ability to book what we bought.

IMO owning VGF2 is probably not necessary if your goal is those new studios. They will have more studios than quite a few other DVC.

 

[TinkAgainU]

My experience with Fidelty was pretty bad, I wouldn't use them again unless they had *THE* unicorn contract I needed. Hope you hear something!

Agreed. Their contract is a bit odd - shows you not only lose your deposit but owe the Seller's commission if you (as Buyer) back out after 10 days. Plus, they have a $195 extra fee in there somewhere that I'm not sure all the brokers have? I've also noticed the deposit is negotiable with some brokers, but not others. Not all Brokers are the same...

 

[Ginamarie]

Agreed. Their contract is a bit odd - shows you not only lose your deposit but owe the Seller's commission if you (as Buyer) back out after 10 days. Plus, they have a $195 extra fee in there somewhere that I'm not sure all the brokers have? I've also noticed the deposit is negotiable with some brokers, but not others. Not all Brokers are the same...

They are the only one I know with the $195 administrative fee. The contract I'm buying now is through Fidelity, but I negotiated for the sellers to pay the $195.

The thing with Fidelity is that sometimes you can find a price that's a good deal lower than the other popular brokers, and that more than makes up for the administrative fee.

 

[AustinL]

AustinL---$195-$26060-125-VGF-Sep-0/20, 23/21, 125/22, 125/23- sent 1/24

 

[hayesdvc]

They are the only one I know with the $195 administrative fee. The contract I'm buying now is through Fidelity, but I negotiated for the sellers to pay the $195.

The thing with Fidelity is that sometimes you can find a price that's a good deal lower than the other popular brokers, and that more than makes up for the administrative fee.

Fidelity is DVC’s go to broker. It appears most reseller’s percentage of contacts bought back are 10-15%. I wonder what Fidelity’s is? I have bought a couple of contracts through them over the years and neither should have passed ROFR.
Last one was about 5 years ago for HHI 230 points loaded at $56. The agent I worked with at the time had no doubt it would not be taken ?!
It was not taken.

 

[HIRyeDVC]

IMO owning VGF2 is probably not necessary if your goal is those new studios. They will have more studios than quite a few other DVC.

I wonder the same for DLT since there’s going to be so many studios there.

 

[hayesdvc]

I wonder the same for DLT since there’s going to be so many studios there.

Will VGF2's initial inventory be like all other "new" resorts where DVC will declare the rooms as points are sold or will 100% of the rooms be in the system day one for all qualified points to start grabbing at the seven month mark? Time will tell.

 

[DKZB]

I’m amazed at all of the people buying VGF in the $190s per point. Only time will tell but there is some chance that VGF2 will be close to that.

 

[Einstein509]

AustinL---$195-$26060-125-VGF-Sep-0/20, 23/21, 125/22, 125/23- sent 1/24

Not a good deal. Most VGF contracts are going for $175-$185. I would back out of this one unless there is some compelling reason to pay this much (UY, points, the unicorn contract). There's a VGF2 thread that is speculating VGF direct pricing will be around $207 which is not that far off from $195 without the hassle of ROFR/resale.

 

[Sandisw]

Not a good deal. Most VGF contracts are going for $175-$185. I would back out of this one unless there is some compelling reason to pay this much (UY, points, the unicorn contract). There's a VGF2 thread that is speculating VGF direct pricing will be around $207 which is not that far off from $195 without the hassle of ROFR/resale.

To add, though, if someone is not already a DVC owner, they would need 150 minimum to buy.

 

[Einstein509]

To add, though, if someone is not already a DVC owner, they would need 150 minimum to buy.

True, but IMO this is overpaying based on other contract/prices out there.

 

[Sandisw]

True, but IMO this is overpaying based on other contract/prices out there.

I don’t disagree with you there. Anyone paying more than $170 right now is paying too much until we see the new prices and incentives.

 

[HIRyeDVC]

I don’t disagree with you there. Anyone paying more than $170 right now is paying too much until we see the new prices and incentives.

Hypothetically, IF (big if) VGF2 contracts were to have resale restrictions, would VGF1 resale contracts retain their value and fetch a higher price like Aulani subsidized contracts do? Just a thought.

 

[Sandisw]

Hypothetically, IF (big if) VGF2 contracts were to have resale restrictions, would VGF1 resale contracts retain their value and fetch a higher price like Aulani subsidized contracts do? Just a thought.

IMO, I don’t think it would Savings dues each year is different than worrying about the value of something down the road that you may or may not be an issue.

 

[mkramer1121]

Mkramer1121---$135-$22050-160-AKV-Dec-0/21, 0/22, 160/23- sent 1/28

 

[suzycute]

suzycute---$140-$22877-150-BWV-Oct-0/20, 126/21, 150/22, 150/23- sent 1/13