ROFR Thread April to June 2018 *PLEASE SEE FIRST POST FOR INSTRUCTIONS & FORMATTING TOOL*

[David K.]

Here we go with take #2

A little higher but slightly better value with my crazy math.

David K.---$104-$24537-220-AKV-Mar-0/17, 152/18, 220/19- sent 5/14

 

[Bing Showei]

Depending on the number of points, I might offer $98 and ask the seller to pay closing costs, or $100 and ask them to cover 2018 MFs (If there are any points coming for 2018).

I have on good authority that the ROFR monkey has this awesome Amiga computer that takes all the numbers and spits out a recommendation based on the net cost, taking into account cost per point, closing costs, Annual Dues, and all other financial elements. The Amiga spits out one of two results to guide the monkey.

or

ETA: I lied about the Amiga part. My imagination was jut filling in the blanks.

 

[Beesknees6]

I'm sure they've got plenty of money. They just don't want to buy back points and have them sit on the books very long if possible. They quicker they unload the points, the quicker they can start collecting dues on them. Remember, DVD would rather not deal with existing properties at all. Their primary interest is to sell the new "live" properties. ROFR just helps them keep the resale prices up so that they can charge more for the new stuff.

I can see that

 

[Whositsgalore]

Has anyone bought Direct and found it was the better deal financially due to discounts? Even with the discounts I’m having a hard time justifying the cost difference.

Although with the greater than normal ROFR buy backs it seems resale is rising in price too.

Well played Mouse, well played!

 

[Jerry5788]

Has anyone bought Direct and found it was the better deal financially due to discounts? Even with the discounts I’m having a hard time justifying the cost difference.

Although with the greater than normal ROFR buy backs it seems resale is rising in price too.

Well played Mouse, well played!

If you think about it prior to 2016 you had the benefits anyway. And up until this year was probably very easy to justify when it was a 25pt minimum. Probably is difficult unless you go annually (multiple times a year) and have a family of four.

 

[striker1064]

Has anyone bought Direct and found it was the better deal financially due to discounts? Even with the discounts I’m having a hard time justifying the cost difference.

Although with the greater than normal ROFR buy backs it seems resale is rising in price too.

Well played Mouse, well played!

To me, it's only if you want Copper Creek. The resale CCV listings are few and far between, are typically mostly stripped, and hover around $150+. Considering you can add-on for effectively ~$165ish after incentives, it doesn't make much sense to deal with the resale market.

Otherwise, no.

 

[TexasChick123]

Has anyone bought Direct and found it was the better deal financially due to discounts? Even with the discounts I’m having a hard time justifying the cost difference.

It probably isn’t a better deal than resale in most situations. Then again, DVC isn’t really a good deal when you think about the whole picture, and yet we all buy in. We are spending money on a nice place to stay which then turns into food, souvenirs, air travel, etc. These trips still cost a lot of money, yet we take more of them because we own DVC. Would we take this many Disney trips if we didn’t own DVC? Definitely not. However, I don’t regret it for a second because I love my Disney vacations!

 

[kmc8826]

Has anyone bought Direct and found it was the better deal financially due to discounts? Even with the discounts I’m having a hard time justifying the cost difference.

Although with the greater than normal ROFR buy backs it seems resale is rising in price too.

Well played Mouse, well played!

I have yet to make an offer even but am just watching this thread. Feel bad for you all but admire your fortitude in how you keep trying. We are non resident family of 5 and direct is starting to be tempting. If you buy Old Key West direct isn't that extended? I am not going to do that but have had the thought. Extended contract might make numbers closer too.

 

[Whositsgalore]

It probably isn’t a better deal than resale in most situations. Then again, DVC isn’t really a good deal when you think about the whole picture, and yet we all buy in. We are spending money on a nice place to stay which then turns into food, souvenirs, air travel, etc. These trips still cost a lot of money, yet we take more of them because we own DVC. Would we take this many Disney trips if we didn’t own DVC? Definitely not. However, I don’t regret it for a second because I love my Disney vacations!

Would you stick with resale or go direct (for discounts) if you were only interested in adding 75 - 100 points max, a family of 4, that lives 3.5 hours (in heavy traffic) away from WDW? We typically go 4 to 5 times a year, sometimes more but rarely less.

 

[Whositsgalore]

I have yet to make an offer even but am just watching this thread. Feel bad for you all but admire your fortitude in how you keep trying. We are non resident family of 5 and direct is starting to be tempting. If you buy Old Key West direct isn't that extended? I am not going to do that but have had the thought. Extended contract might make numbers closer too.

I've never talked to DVC directly, I would be interested to know what their direct price is for something other than CCV. More along the lines of SSR, OKW, AKL, BWV or BLT. I read somewhere on here that someone asked and initially they said they didn't have any but "magically" they found some.

 

[Jerry5788]

Would you stick with resale or go direct (for discounts) if you were only interested in adding 75 - 100 points max, a family of 4, that lives 3.5 hours (in heavy traffic) away from WDW? We typically go 4 to 5 times a year, sometimes more but rarely less.

Are you a Florida resident? If not and you go 4-5 times a year the annual pass makes up for it quite easily. I would buy resale and add 75 direct (same UY) 100pts doesn’t seem like enough for 4/5 trips even at AKV value studio that only gets you 11 weekday nights.

I think even two different resorts would be nice if you like to mix it up. If your trips are bought on the spur of the moment (7 months or less) than buy the cheapest points

 

[The Jackal]

I've never talked to DVC directly, I would be interested to know what their direct price is for something other than CCV. More along the lines of SSR, OKW, AKL, BWV or BLT. I read somewhere on here that someone asked and initially they said they didn't have any but "magically" they found some.

They do have some for several resorts. SSR and OKW direct is $151 pp. if you do a search you cans find all the prices

 

[Whositsgalore]

Are you a Florida resident? If not and you go 4-5 times a year the annual pass makes up for it quite easily. I would buy resale and add 75 direct (same UY) 100pts doesn’t seem like enough for 4/5 trips even at AKV value studio that only gets you 11 weekday nights.

I think even two different resorts would be nice if you like to mix it up. If your trips are bought on the spur of the moment (7 months or less) than buy the cheapest points

Not a Florida resident...very South GA. Hopefully we will pass ROFR and have 120 points at SSR any day now....waiting....waiting....waiting.... and I know I want to add 75 - 100 points. I think i'm trying to justify a direct buy for discounts and no hassle of ROFR.

 

[TexasChick123]

Would you stick with resale or go direct (for discounts) if you were only interested in adding 75 - 100 points max, a family of 4, that lives 3.5 hours (in heavy traffic) away from WDW? We typically go 4 to 5 times a year, sometimes more but rarely less.

75 points, I might go direct and split it up into three 25 point contracts or one 25 point and one 50 point contract. 100 points and the spread between direct and resale is greater. The AP’s thing is tough. How many years will you get AP’s? Will you always go 4-5x per year as kids get older? I know we won’t, sadly. We are going 3x within 12 months, and that is a crazy amount for us. After that, my DH is definitely taking a break. He gets “Disneyed out”. As kids get older, we will still go to WDW but will have many other trips as well. We want our kids to see the actual places in the world showcase. These are just some things to keep in mind when planning on always getting an AP every year.

 

[krw1243]

I've never talked to DVC directly, I would be interested to know what their direct price is for something other than CCV. More along the lines of SSR, OKW, AKL, BWV or BLT. I read somewhere on here that someone asked and initially they said they didn't have any but "magically" they found some.

AKL is $171/pt direct.

 

[OneLittleSpark2014]

Has anyone bought Direct and found it was the better deal financially due to discounts? Even with the discounts I’m having a hard time justifying the cost difference.

Although with the greater than normal ROFR buy backs it seems resale is rising in price too.

Well played Mouse, well played!

Our first contract was direct because it just made sense for our needs as the time. We had a trip booked for us and some family members when we started looking at DVC. With our direct purchase, we were able to make our "new member reservation" and get AK Kidani for our entire travel party inside the 7 month window and the timing was such that we were at the end of the use year, so Disney booked our points to be used on our upcoming trip. That allowed us to cancel our cash reservation and apply those funds to the direct purchase instead. Factoring in the money we would have spent on the lodging for our upcoming trip, it made sense. If we had bought resale at the time, we would not have been able to use it for that stay due to availability and timing, so direct worked out for us at the time. Right now we're trying to add more points resale, since resale is a much better deal based upon our current situation and needs. I think it just depends upon your budget and timeline.

 

[DizneyLizzy]

I have yet to make an offer even but am just watching this thread. Feel bad for you all but admire your fortitude in how you keep trying. We are non resident family of 5 and direct is starting to be tempting. If you buy Old Key West direct isn't that extended? I am not going to do that but have had the thought. Extended contract might make numbers closer too.

Yes - if you buy OKW direct it is extended to 2057.

 

[ScubaCat]

If only there were already 27 other threads debating the value and logistics of a 75 point direct add-on...

I guess all this ROFR has shifted that calculation somewhat, but DVD has aggressively raised direct prices recently and seem to be making a concerted effort to boost resale prices to support them. The days of sub-$100 resale contracts passing seem to be numbered.

 

[ajjonesehc]

ajjonesehc---$73-$23942-300-OKW-Mar-0/17, 323/18, 300/19, 300/20- sent 4/16, Buyer pays 2018 dues- taken 5/15.

We thought this one was a long shot to start with. Now off to find another one.

 

[Whositsgalore]

ajjonesehc---$73-$23942-300-OKW-Mar-0/17, 323/18, 300/19, 300/20- sent 4/16, Buyer pays 2018 dues- taken 5/15.

We thought this one was a long shot to start with. Now off to find another one.

Sorry it was taken, one will magically pass soon for you