Rochester's own monorail

Groucho

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Yes indeed, here in little Rochester, NY, we currently have a running monorail. Come to think of it, we have for decades around this time of the year. But this is the last year. OK, it's a "kiddie" monorail but a monorail none-the-less!

A little background... Rochester, NY's Midtown Plaza opened in 1961 as the nation's first downtown indoor mall. (You can see it on YouTube and similar places in the old "Rochester, A City of Quality" movie.) It was quite a bit deal, with several department stores and walkways (above and below ground) to neighboring buildings. Well, like so many other cities, downtown Rochester deteriorated greatly over the years and Midtown has been a mess for a long time. I actually worked in Midtown Tower (a 14-story office area that was part of the mall, with a restaurant on top) for a couple years in the mid-'90s and it was a wreck then, with few open stores, vagrants wandering around, and a general sense of disrepair. Finally, it was announced a couple years ago that it's going to be demolished once and for all to make way for Paetec's new world headquarters. I think most locals agree that this is a positive step for downtown.

Back to the monorail - around Christmastime, a kid-size monorail is set up, along with a giant tree and a chance for kids to meet Santa. There used to be a "Magic Mountain", too, which went from the ground floor up to the second, and the monorail passed through it. That's been gone for many years.

There's been no word about the ultimate fate of the monorail, nor of the "Clock of Nations" that is a centerpiece of the mall year-round. The Clock hasn't been functioning properly for years but it still an interesting relic.

Midtown is probably busier now than it has been in years, as parents take their children to ride the monorail for probably the last time. We were one of those families.

Now, on to the photos! (Sorry about the white balance, it was very tricky as there was sunlight coming in from above as well as lots of artificial light.)

Here's a few monorail photos - as you can see, the cars have been through some rough times. :)
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Here's one as it leaves the loading platform.
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Here is the Clock of Nations in the background.
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Evidence of why Midtown is closing - notice the huge empty areas on the directory! And not all the stores listed are open any more...
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Here is the monorail area, with Santa in the foreground.
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Kids were still enjoying the ride!
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Here's a fisheye of the Clock of Nations. IIRC, originally it would rotate and play music and the doors would open every hour, with shutters over the nation dioramas the rest of the time.
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Here's an example of one of the nations.
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There is another area of floor behind where I took the second-floor fisheye shot above, that was mostly empty but home to a tall total pole. (The fisheye makes it look a bit shorter than it is!)
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I hope you enjoyed seeing one of the few (if not the only?) remaining department store monorails in action!
 
i think you are very brave to ride that thing:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: if it's put together like fair rides they probably use chewing gum in place of bolts
i enjoyed the photos none the less
 
I didn't ride it - max age is 10, I'm a tad too old nowadays. I did ride it as a kid though!

Actually, I took a shot of a manufacturer plate on the back of the monorail:
"Rocket Express
Miami, Florida
ID No. 300
Occupants 16
Load 1400 lbs.
Speed 2 mph"

16 people with a total weight of under 1,400 lbs... that's either kids or supermodels. :rotfl2:
 
Great shots Groucho, at least you'll have some pics to look back on. It reminds me of the old Buck Rodgers TV show and the props they used in the show. Maybe the local Historical Society will step in and save it. Thanks for sharing.
 

Funnily enough, I was reading the Walt Disney biography by Neal Gabler last night and discovered another Disney connection beyond the obvious monorail one.

Midtown was designed by a man named Victor Gruen. Victor Gruen also wrote the books "The Heart of Our Cities" and "Out of a Fair, a City" - two of the three city-planning books that Walt kept in his office and referred to often when he was in his EPCOT city-planning phase in the mid-'60s. To quote the biography, "[Gruen] urged a reconceptualization of the city as more ordered, rational, and humane." Sounds a bit like Walt's planned dream city in Orlando, eh?
 
Enjoyed seeing the pictures (and I agree - stay out of that thing! LOL). I was also thinking, "Disney it ain't" - but as you say, maybe it had a little something to do with Walt's inspiration for his monorail, and even EPCOT.

I'm also reading the Gabler book. Actually, I got it for Christmas last year and read a few pages nightly before falling asleep. I'm not done yet. It's still on my nightstand but surrounded by photography and home remodeling books ;)

OT but I got my husband this tee shirt for Christmas - think he'll like it? The old Polynesian shirt he travels in is getting a little ragged and I thought maybe he'd like this one instead. (I don't know though, old habits die hard.) :rotfl:
 
Here's one from the Oklahoma State Fairgrounds. It was built in 1964 and decomissioned in 2005.

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I didn't ride it - max age is 10, I'm a tad too old nowadays. I did ride it as a kid though!

Actually, I took a shot of a manufacturer plate on the back of the monorail:
"Rocket Express
Miami, Florida
ID No. 300
Occupants 16
Load 1400 lbs.
Speed 2 mph"

16 people with a total weight of under 1,400 lbs... that's either kids or supermodels. :rotfl2:

not including "fat" tyra banks according to saggy neck janice dickenson :rotfl:
 
Send the monorail photos to monorails.org, they may not know about this one (it isn't listed in their "North America" group.
http://monorails.org/tMspages/NAmer.html

I sometimes wear a "Monorail Society" t-shirt at WDW, several CMs have asked me what the Monorail Society is. I tell them we're a group with one track minds. ;)
 
Enjoyed seeing the pictures (and I agree - stay out of that thing! LOL). I was also thinking, "Disney it ain't" - but as you say, maybe it had a little something to do with Walt's inspiration for his monorail, and even EPCOT.

I'm also reading the Gabler book. Actually, I got it for Christmas last year and read a few pages nightly before falling asleep. I'm not done yet. It's still on my nightstand but surrounded by photography and home remodeling books ;)

OT but I got my husband this tee shirt for Christmas - think he'll like it? The old Polynesian shirt he travels in is getting a little ragged and I thought maybe he'd like this one instead. (I don't know though, old habits die hard.) :rotfl:
Well, Walt's monorail preceded this one, I think, but there is that connection between the mall itself and Epcot.

My wife got the Gabler book and the new Charles Schultz bio out from the library for me at the same time - meanwhile, I'm halfway through the latest Peanuts complete collection release, a few chapters into Realityland (very cool although I expect that some stories were "sexed up" a little), and a good ways into another novel. I don't know when she expects me to read all those! For the Gabler one, I cheated and skipped straight to the Disneyland era - the parks are my main fascination. (Though I am a huge Fleischer Studios Popeye fan, so I'm curious about the big rivalry between Fleischer and Disney. I may have to check the index and skip back to that section.)

Nice monorail shirt! I'd be happy to wear it. :teeth:

jann1033 said:
not including "fat" tyra banks according to saggy neck janice dickenson
I know Janice was on a certain non-kid-friendly talk show the other day but I didn't hear it, but I did hear that all the listeners hated her the next day. :lmao:

boBQuincy said:
Send the monorail photos to monorails.org, they may not know about this one (it isn't listed in their "North America" group.
http://monorails.org/tMspages/NAmer.html

I sometimes wear a "Monorail Society" t-shirt at WDW, several CMs have asked me what the Monorail Society is. I tell them we're a group with one track minds.
Actually, it is on there, on the Novelty page:
http://monorails.org/tMspages/Novelty.html
I also have many more photos of it on my gallery (and in higher resolution.)

I love monorails, I enjoyed watching the Extinct Attractions monorail DVD recently, and we've got the WDW 50th anniversary Monorail Gold circling our Christmas tree. :thumbsup2
 
Just thought I'd add that the Midtown-Walt Disney link is apparently more than just that he liked the designer... I found this as I read farther into Gabler's biography of Walt:

"Walt spent the better part of the spring of 1966 on reconnaissance missions for his futuristic city, first visiting the Monsanto offices in St. Louis to discuss what the company might contribute to EPCOT and then boarding the Gulfstream for a long tour that took him to a Gruen-designed six-acre mall in Rochester, New York, which boasted three levels of underground parking, ..."

Ah yes, that underground parking, I remember paying $69/month to park there around 11 years ago. :)
 














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