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I would imagine that the next "new" location would be the raising the south garden wing at CR to make room for BLT 2.0.
Fantasyland is getting ready to double in size so bring on some more DVC!Please no more rooms anywhere, until there's more park/activity development.
Fantasyland is getting ready to double in size so bring on some more DVC!![]()
All of the Fantasyland construction currently underway (Mermaid, Gaston's, the Snow White coaster) is on land formerly occupied by the subs, not Toontown. I would wager to say that, based on land area, more of it is the sub space, not the toontown space.
True it appears all the princess attactions are going to be close to the castle area which includes the old 20,000 Leagues area, the Toontown area will now have 2 Dumbo rides, Goofy's coster and a few other small attactions/rides. My point was that not much extra land area is being added to "bring on more DVC" as chic wanted.
With the " Best kept secret" advertised anywhere and everywhere DVC growth in the last few years has out paced the theme park growth or additions. There are a few less crowded times during the year but they are also becoming harder and harder to find. Unless Disney adds to existing parks or opens new parks massive crowds are increasingly the norm.
I'd bet many mickeybars that this will not happen anytime soon. The point of new gates is to extend the average stay on property. BUt, a typical US vacation isn't much longer than 5-7 days---and has been getting shorter over time, not longer. It would be hard to change the broader culture, so a 5th gate is more likely to cannibalize attendance of the others. Expansion of existing parks is much more likely, and the Fantasyland expansion will probably add a non-trivial amount to MK's overall guest capacity.Disney definitely needs to start working on a 5th gate
I'd bet many mickeybars that this will not happen anytime soon. The point of new gates is to extend the average stay on property. BUt, a typical US vacation isn't much longer than 5-7 days---and has been getting shorter over time, not longer. It would be hard to change the broader culture, so a 5th gate is more likely to cannibalize attendance of the others. Expansion of existing parks is much more likely, and the Fantasyland expansion will probably add a non-trivial amount to MK's overall guest capacity.
As it stands, the parks are very rarely at capacity---and hotel construction is less about increasing the overall visitor count, and more about trying to starve out the off-property hoteliers. What's more, Disney is probably better off financially if they don't have under-capacity parks for much of the year. That's why they've created "events" during the times when kids are generally in school. Some (food & wine) are more successful than others (flower & garden), but as my pastor puts it, "You don't build a church for Easter Sunday's crowd."
Has anyone been to wdw lately and have any updates on this possible project? I think DVC needs more concierge rooms and the ones on the water would be nice! Wishful thinking!
Back on to the original topic, it is interesting that there may be a demand for more concierge rooms for DVC. Right now, there are just a few concierge rooms at AKV Jambo, right? I know they book quickly.
Concierge rooms at a DVC could give Disney the opportunity to maintain their higher point per night structure...not sure what the uptick in cost would be but it would certainly help prop up new sales pricing for non-monorail locations.
The question is, is there enough desire for people to have concierge at the higher points per night?
Also, when I think of concierge, I think of a more upscale experience. Not sure that River Country/Ft Wilderness fits that kind of image. Nothing against FW, just wondering if someone would find the area appealing. Beautiful Bay Lake view and nice access to MK, but not sure if it would be a good fit for a DVC resort.
Fantasyland is getting ready to double in size so bring on some more DVC!![]()