Riv Direct or Poly Resale?

OP when you outlined the pros and cons of Poly v. Riviera a pro for Riviera was 2020 points w/ a direct purchase, I think my conversation with the guide would go something like this “I’m torn between Poly resale and Riviera direct - when I compared the two my calculations included banking 2020 points for Riviera, but if I can’t get a use year that works well for our travel plans at Riviera ... and Dec. really is about the worst use year for us, I need to rethink this, please call me if you can find points in a use year that works better for us but still has 2020 points.”
I like this. I’ve been holding off on responding because I’ve been struggling to find the right words but I think this could be what I need!

The extra cost of direct is a lot, and having 2020 points would be helpful to justify it.
 
I like this. I’ve been holding off on responding because I’ve been struggling to find the right words but I think this could be what I need!

The extra cost of direct is a lot, and having 2020 points would be helpful to justify it.

And, with buying RIV, the main resort in active sales right now, there is absolutely no reason not to get the UY you want because they are not sold out of points.
 
I've read this thread in pieces, so I can't remember if it was mentioned, but since you prefer to travel in Oct/Nov, have you looked at getting a Guaranteed Week ("GW")? It would definitely be worth a look at the October GWs. That will guarantee you a studio (I'd advise doing it for the Standard View since they're harder to get - you can always rent the Preferred as a normal rental) in October, when the demand is higher, plus right now you get the benefit that there's essentially no point premium on October GWs. You still have the ability to opt out and use your points as a normal contract, but that GW just gives you an extra option (plus, I look at it like it could increase the value of the contract slightly if you had to sell).

The only problem is the total of points that you want. I believe the October Standard View GW is 130 points. You can do a 2nd contract to get the rest of the points you want - the problem is that they might not do a 2nd one as small as you'd like (i.e., 20 points to get to 150 total). Now we just did this back in August, we added on 200 points direct (we already had an October UY). They were able to split ours into a 130-point GW and a 70-point regular contract. We did 200 points because the discount at 200 was really good and I think a big jump (I think we saved $35/pt - crazy).

We actually don't have any intention of using our GW any time soon. Maybe we'll use it some day, but our kids are in 1st and 2nd grade and we wouldn't want to take them out of school only a few weeks into the school year. Still, it gives us the option in the future to use it when they're older and the two of us want to go down for Food & Wine and can do the whole week, or if they want to come then (although we're already bitten by the bigger room bug - always thought we'd be fine w/ hotel room/studios, even with our kids with us). It also ensures that, should it become very difficult to get the studios once there are a lot of resales out there who can only book at Riviera, we have a guaranteed reservation then. On top of that, given the adjusting of the point charts to account for the higher-demand times of year, and shifting to October being a higher-point time, it's a hedge against that increase. As it is now, with the changes, there's NO premium for that week (the GW is 130 points, booking the same week normally is now 130 points). If they shift it additionally, we could actually be saving points if we choose to use the GW. Last, while we have no intention of ever selling the contract, if we did ever choose to, given the above, the GW could actually have some added value over other contracts.
 

I've read this thread in pieces, so I can't remember if it was mentioned, but since you prefer to travel in Oct/Nov, have you looked at getting a Guaranteed Week ("GW")? It would definitely be worth a look at the October GWs. That will guarantee you a studio (I'd advise doing it for the Standard View since they're harder to get - you can always rent the Preferred as a normal rental) in October, when the demand is higher, plus right now you get the benefit that there's essentially no point premium on October GWs. You still have the ability to opt out and use your points as a normal contract, but that GW just gives you an extra option (plus, I look at it like it could increase the value of the contract slightly if you had to sell).

The only problem is the total of points that you want. I believe the October Standard View GW is 130 points. You can do a 2nd contract to get the rest of the points you want - the problem is that they might not do a 2nd one as small as you'd like (i.e., 20 points to get to 150 total). Now we just did this back in August, we added on 200 points direct (we already had an October UY). They were able to split ours into a 130-point GW and a 70-point regular contract. We did 200 points because the discount at 200 was really good and I think a big jump (I think we saved $35/pt - crazy).

We actually don't have any intention of using our GW any time soon. Maybe we'll use it some day, but our kids are in 1st and 2nd grade and we wouldn't want to take them out of school only a few weeks into the school year. Still, it gives us the option in the future to use it when they're older and the two of us want to go down for Food & Wine and can do the whole week, or if they want to come then (although we're already bitten by the bigger room bug - always thought we'd be fine w/ hotel room/studios, even with our kids with us). It also ensures that, should it become very difficult to get the studios once there are a lot of resales out there who can only book at Riviera, we have a guaranteed reservation then. On top of that, given the adjusting of the point charts to account for the higher-demand times of year, and shifting to October being a higher-point time, it's a hedge against that increase. As it is now, with the changes, there's NO premium for that week (the GW is 130 points, booking the same week normally is now 130 points). If they shift it additionally, we could actually be saving points if we choose to use the GW. Last, while we have no intention of ever selling the contract, if we did ever choose to, given the above, the GW could actually have some added value over other contracts.
We did exactly this because we wanted at least 200 points. Got GW #52 which was 196 points and got a small 34 point contract to give us an extra night if we wanted to go on a Saturday instead of a Sunday down the road.
 
We bought both Poly and RIV direct. We’re happy we did. No restrictions on where we can use points, blue card access, etc. We never plan to resell, but if that is a factor for you, Poly will likely be easier to resell than RIV due to the resale restrictions. But, I would not advise buying at all of that is a strong possibility.

the extra $7K a year divided over almost 50 years over the life of the contract is realistically not that much, so if you love RIV, I’d go with that. We are a family of 4 and we started Poly because it is hands down our favorite resort. However, as my kids have aged, we need more space. We have started booking 2 studios there or 1/2bedrooms other places (or, my favorite solution is a split stay with half the trip in 2 studios at Poly and the last half at RIV in a 1/2 bedroom so o can do laundry at the mid point and end of the trip!)
 
I've read this thread in pieces, so I can't remember if it was mentioned, but since you prefer to travel in Oct/Nov, have you looked at getting a Guaranteed Week ("GW")? It would definitely be worth a look at the October GWs. That will guarantee you a studio (I'd advise doing it for the Standard View since they're harder to get - you can always rent the Preferred as a normal rental) in October, when the demand is higher, plus right now you get the benefit that there's essentially no point premium on October GWs. You still have the ability to opt out and use your points as a normal contract, but that GW just gives you an extra option (plus, I look at it like it could increase the value of the contract slightly if you had to sell).

The only problem is the total of points that you want. I believe the October Standard View GW is 130 points. You can do a 2nd contract to get the rest of the points you want - the problem is that they might not do a 2nd one as small as you'd like (i.e., 20 points to get to 150 total). Now we just did this back in August, we added on 200 points direct (we already had an October UY). They were able to split ours into a 130-point GW and a 70-point regular contract. We did 200 points because the discount at 200 was really good and I think a big jump (I think we saved $35/pt - crazy).

We actually don't have any intention of using our GW any time soon. Maybe we'll use it some day, but our kids are in 1st and 2nd grade and we wouldn't want to take them out of school only a few weeks into the school year. Still, it gives us the option in the future to use it when they're older and the two of us want to go down for Food & Wine and can do the whole week, or if they want to come then (although we're already bitten by the bigger room bug - always thought we'd be fine w/ hotel room/studios, even with our kids with us). It also ensures that, should it become very difficult to get the studios once there are a lot of resales out there who can only book at Riviera, we have a guaranteed reservation then. On top of that, given the adjusting of the point charts to account for the higher-demand times of year, and shifting to October being a higher-point time, it's a hedge against that increase. As it is now, with the changes, there's NO premium for that week (the GW is 130 points, booking the same week normally is now 130 points). If they shift it additionally, we could actually be saving points if we choose to use the GW. Last, while we have no intention of ever selling the contract, if we did ever choose to, given the above, the GW could actually have some added value over other contracts.
Interesting-is the price a lot higher than just buying the points? I’m of the “Disney take allllll my money” mentality but my DH is more cost conscious (partly why it has taken me so long to convince him to do DVC).

The issue I foresee is we tend to go during our kids’ fall break which is not always the same year over year. But as you say we could opt for points instead the week in a given year. Though again, that would only be smart if we didn’t have to pay a big premium for the GW.
 
Interesting-is the price a lot higher than just buying the points? I’m of the “Disney take allllll my money” mentality but my DH is more cost conscious (partly why it has taken me so long to convince him to do DVC).

The issue I foresee is we tend to go during our kids’ fall break which is not always the same year over year. But as you say we could opt for points instead the week in a given year. Though again, that would only be smart if we didn’t have to pay a big premium for the GW.
I know there are other posts on the Boards about Guaranteed Weeks ("GW"), and I think it's *******.com that has a breakdown explanation of GWs, but here's my explanation:

First of all - the price is exactly the same as just buying points, as in, the price per point is identical. The difference with a GW is the points required for that week versus booking it normally. It's also called Fixed Week - I honestly don't remember which DVC calls it, but I find GW a better descriptive term since you still have flexibility and are not stuck with a week that's "fixed" each year.

So, with a GW, you choose a week each year, always Sunday-to-Sunday, 1 through 52. There's a chart they have that shows each week or at least each week for the next several years, but I'm 99% sure that it's based off of Week 1 starting on the first Sunday in January, and counted out from there. So it may not always line up the same if you're looking at holidays, etc. For example, we have Week 48, which is usually the week after Thanksgiving. I think there are a handful of weeks during our contract in which it falls 2 weeks after Thanksgiving.

Back to how it works, you get a week each year, that week is automatically booked for you each year - you don't have to do anything. It's supposed to be booked for you prior to the 11-month window for that week, but apparently sometimes it happens late, but you will have that week. However, you pay a 10% premium (usually - more on that later) on how many points it costs to book that week. So, for example, when we purchased our Copper Creek GW a couple years ago, a week in the beginning of December was 107 points. Our GW contract is for 118 points, which is what that week costs us to book (107 plus 10%). It costs more, but it's guaranteed for us every year - the week gets booked for us and uses our full 118 points.

One of the key features is that the full contract gets used for that week every year, regardless of what the points chart currently states. So, if the points go up to book that week - it's still guaranteed at that cost (118 for that Copper Creek week). If they were to go down, still the full 118. So, the "premium" to have that week could cost more, or less, depending on changes, but for the holder of the GW, the cost is always the same. So there's some comfort there in not needing to worry about changes in the points chart.

To elaborate further with examples, since some days are sometimes in November, that week could be more than 107, also, and importantly, now that the points chart has changed some, that week is 110 points (I think), but it's still 118 for us. Another example, with Riviera, in the original points chart, a week in October in a Standard View Studio was 118 points. If you have a GW for such a week, then it would cost you 130 points to book that same week. This is what we did with our second, add-on contract that we got last summer. HOWEVER, the points charts have already changed, with October becoming a higher-point time period. In next year's, 20222, point charts, a week in October is actually 130 points to book. For us, we have that week booked automatically for us, at 130 points - exactly the same as everyone else. So we have no premium to have that Guaranteed Week.

So if you're looking at a popular DVC time of year, you are assured that you will have that room for a week, and you're assured that if (or when) DVC starts to reallocate the points charts to try to better account for these popular times, it doesn't affect you.

Flexibility - this is really a key part, and what made us actually see the GW as a no-brainer for us - you do NOT have to use that week that you've chosen. You can always opt out of the week and use your points just the same as everyone else - whenever you want at whatever resort you want. You also get the full points in your contract - so no premium to book anywhere or any time else. So, for that 118 point contract, if we don't use that Guaranteed Week studio, we have 118 points to use that are no different than anyone else's contract. Now, the one bit of inflexibility is that you can't make any changes to your GW reservation - it's an all or none situation. In other words, it's booked Sunday-->Sunday, if you want to change it to Saturday to Saturday, or make it only 5 of those days, you can't. You have to cancel the whole week then book it through a regular reservation. That's no different than everyone else though, so it's not a penalty in any way.

So, we got the GW at Copper Creek with our first purchase 2 years ago because we were worried about how hard it is to get a studio at Copper Creek, especially in December. When my wife first told me about it, I balked - we were interested in DVC for the flexibility to use points at all the resorts, whenever we wanted. I didn't want a "fixed" week like any other timeshare. However, as I researched regarding the concerns over how hard studios are to get there and was questioning whether to even make the purchase, learning about how the GW works and that you don't lose that flexibility made it very worth our while. We also have wanted to go to Wilderness Lodge at Christmas time for a while, and we wanted to try to make a tradition out of going each year at that time. At the same time, we actually have yet to use our GW there (or even get to WL at Christmas - have tried a few times but things came up) - the first year we bought in too late to get a booking for that week, last year we canceled because of the pandemic, then this coming year, we have a trip booked that week, but we actually opted out of our GW because we booked a 2-bedroom to have family come with us. We had the points to use because of our add-on at Riviera and because of canceling last year.

Then I explained previously our planned usage (or lack of) for the Riviera GW we bought. Given that it could become a very difficult reservation to get in the future though, and given that the premium to have that week is already gone, having the option to have that week booked for us made it a no-brainer to us.

Take a serious look at it.
 
I know there are other posts on the Boards about Guaranteed Weeks ("GW"), and I think it's *******.com that has a breakdown explanation of GWs, but here's my explanation:

First of all - the price is exactly the same as just buying points, as in, the price per point is identical. The difference with a GW is the points required for that week versus booking it normally. It's also called Fixed Week - I honestly don't remember which DVC calls it, but I find GW a better descriptive term since you still have flexibility and are not stuck with a week that's "fixed" each year.

So, with a GW, you choose a week each year, always Sunday-to-Sunday, 1 through 52. There's a chart they have that shows each week or at least each week for the next several years, but I'm 99% sure that it's based off of Week 1 starting on the first Sunday in January, and counted out from there. So it may not always line up the same if you're looking at holidays, etc. For example, we have Week 48, which is usually the week after Thanksgiving. I think there are a handful of weeks during our contract in which it falls 2 weeks after Thanksgiving.

Back to how it works, you get a week each year, that week is automatically booked for you each year - you don't have to do anything. It's supposed to be booked for you prior to the 11-month window for that week, but apparently sometimes it happens late, but you will have that week. However, you pay a 10% premium (usually - more on that later) on how many points it costs to book that week. So, for example, when we purchased our Copper Creek GW a couple years ago, a week in the beginning of December was 107 points. Our GW contract is for 118 points, which is what that week costs us to book (107 plus 10%). It costs more, but it's guaranteed for us every year - the week gets booked for us and uses our full 118 points.

One of the key features is that the full contract gets used for that week every year, regardless of what the points chart currently states. So, if the points go up to book that week - it's still guaranteed at that cost (118 for that Copper Creek week). If they were to go down, still the full 118. So, the "premium" to have that week could cost more, or less, depending on changes, but for the holder of the GW, the cost is always the same. So there's some comfort there in not needing to worry about changes in the points chart.

To elaborate further with examples, since some days are sometimes in November, that week could be more than 107, also, and importantly, now that the points chart has changed some, that week is 110 points (I think), but it's still 118 for us. Another example, with Riviera, in the original points chart, a week in October in a Standard View Studio was 118 points. If you have a GW for such a week, then it would cost you 130 points to book that same week. This is what we did with our second, add-on contract that we got last summer. HOWEVER, the points charts have already changed, with October becoming a higher-point time period. In next year's, 20222, point charts, a week in October is actually 130 points to book. For us, we have that week booked automatically for us, at 130 points - exactly the same as everyone else. So we have no premium to have that Guaranteed Week.

So if you're looking at a popular DVC time of year, you are assured that you will have that room for a week, and you're assured that if (or when) DVC starts to reallocate the points charts to try to better account for these popular times, it doesn't affect you.

Flexibility - this is really a key part, and what made us actually see the GW as a no-brainer for us - you do NOT have to use that week that you've chosen. You can always opt out of the week and use your points just the same as everyone else - whenever you want at whatever resort you want. You also get the full points in your contract - so no premium to book anywhere or any time else. So, for that 118 point contract, if we don't use that Guaranteed Week studio, we have 118 points to use that are no different than anyone else's contract. Now, the one bit of inflexibility is that you can't make any changes to your GW reservation - it's an all or none situation. In other words, it's booked Sunday-->Sunday, if you want to change it to Saturday to Saturday, or make it only 5 of those days, you can't. You have to cancel the whole week then book it through a regular reservation. That's no different than everyone else though, so it's not a penalty in any way.

So, we got the GW at Copper Creek with our first purchase 2 years ago because we were worried about how hard it is to get a studio at Copper Creek, especially in December. When my wife first told me about it, I balked - we were interested in DVC for the flexibility to use points at all the resorts, whenever we wanted. I didn't want a "fixed" week like any other timeshare. However, as I researched regarding the concerns over how hard studios are to get there and was questioning whether to even make the purchase, learning about how the GW works and that you don't lose that flexibility made it very worth our while. We also have wanted to go to Wilderness Lodge at Christmas time for a while, and we wanted to try to make a tradition out of going each year at that time. At the same time, we actually have yet to use our GW there (or even get to WL at Christmas - have tried a few times but things came up) - the first year we bought in too late to get a booking for that week, last year we canceled because of the pandemic, then this coming year, we have a trip booked that week, but we actually opted out of our GW because we booked a 2-bedroom to have family come with us. We had the points to use because of our add-on at Riviera and because of canceling last year.

Then I explained previously our planned usage (or lack of) for the Riviera GW we bought. Given that it could become a very difficult reservation to get in the future though, and given that the premium to have that week is already gone, having the option to have that week booked for us made it a no-brainer to us.

Take a serious look at it.
Thank you. I’ve seen it mentioned a lot on these boards but this is the best explanation I’ve read. Going to have a sit down with DH today and decide on everything.
 
I know there are other posts on the Boards about Guaranteed Weeks ("GW"), and I think it's *******.com that has a breakdown explanation of GWs, but here's my explanation:

First of all - the price is exactly the same as just buying points, as in, the price per point is identical. The difference with a GW is the points required for that week versus booking it normally. It's also called Fixed Week - I honestly don't remember which DVC calls it, but I find GW a better descriptive term since you still have flexibility and are not stuck with a week that's "fixed" each year.

So, with a GW, you choose a week each year, always Sunday-to-Sunday, 1 through 52. There's a chart they have that shows each week or at least each week for the next several years, but I'm 99% sure that it's based off of Week 1 starting on the first Sunday in January, and counted out from there. So it may not always line up the same if you're looking at holidays, etc. For example, we have Week 48, which is usually the week after Thanksgiving. I think there are a handful of weeks during our contract in which it falls 2 weeks after Thanksgiving.

Back to how it works, you get a week each year, that week is automatically booked for you each year - you don't have to do anything. It's supposed to be booked for you prior to the 11-month window for that week, but apparently sometimes it happens late, but you will have that week. However, you pay a 10% premium (usually - more on that later) on how many points it costs to book that week. So, for example, when we purchased our Copper Creek GW a couple years ago, a week in the beginning of December was 107 points. Our GW contract is for 118 points, which is what that week costs us to book (107 plus 10%). It costs more, but it's guaranteed for us every year - the week gets booked for us and uses our full 118 points.

One of the key features is that the full contract gets used for that week every year, regardless of what the points chart currently states. So, if the points go up to book that week - it's still guaranteed at that cost (118 for that Copper Creek week). If they were to go down, still the full 118. So, the "premium" to have that week could cost more, or less, depending on changes, but for the holder of the GW, the cost is always the same. So there's some comfort there in not needing to worry about changes in the points chart.

To elaborate further with examples, since some days are sometimes in November, that week could be more than 107, also, and importantly, now that the points chart has changed some, that week is 110 points (I think), but it's still 118 for us. Another example, with Riviera, in the original points chart, a week in October in a Standard View Studio was 118 points. If you have a GW for such a week, then it would cost you 130 points to book that same week. This is what we did with our second, add-on contract that we got last summer. HOWEVER, the points charts have already changed, with October becoming a higher-point time period. In next year's, 20222, point charts, a week in October is actually 130 points to book. For us, we have that week booked automatically for us, at 130 points - exactly the same as everyone else. So we have no premium to have that Guaranteed Week.

So if you're looking at a popular DVC time of year, you are assured that you will have that room for a week, and you're assured that if (or when) DVC starts to reallocate the points charts to try to better account for these popular times, it doesn't affect you.

Flexibility - this is really a key part, and what made us actually see the GW as a no-brainer for us - you do NOT have to use that week that you've chosen. You can always opt out of the week and use your points just the same as everyone else - whenever you want at whatever resort you want. You also get the full points in your contract - so no premium to book anywhere or any time else. So, for that 118 point contract, if we don't use that Guaranteed Week studio, we have 118 points to use that are no different than anyone else's contract. Now, the one bit of inflexibility is that you can't make any changes to your GW reservation - it's an all or none situation. In other words, it's booked Sunday-->Sunday, if you want to change it to Saturday to Saturday, or make it only 5 of those days, you can't. You have to cancel the whole week then book it through a regular reservation. That's no different than everyone else though, so it's not a penalty in any way.

So, we got the GW at Copper Creek with our first purchase 2 years ago because we were worried about how hard it is to get a studio at Copper Creek, especially in December. When my wife first told me about it, I balked - we were interested in DVC for the flexibility to use points at all the resorts, whenever we wanted. I didn't want a "fixed" week like any other timeshare. However, as I researched regarding the concerns over how hard studios are to get there and was questioning whether to even make the purchase, learning about how the GW works and that you don't lose that flexibility made it very worth our while. We also have wanted to go to Wilderness Lodge at Christmas time for a while, and we wanted to try to make a tradition out of going each year at that time. At the same time, we actually have yet to use our GW there (or even get to WL at Christmas - have tried a few times but things came up) - the first year we bought in too late to get a booking for that week, last year we canceled because of the pandemic, then this coming year, we have a trip booked that week, but we actually opted out of our GW because we booked a 2-bedroom to have family come with us. We had the points to use because of our add-on at Riviera and because of canceling last year.

Then I explained previously our planned usage (or lack of) for the Riviera GW we bought. Given that it could become a very difficult reservation to get in the future though, and given that the premium to have that week is already gone, having the option to have that week booked for us made it a no-brainer to us.

Take a serious look at it.


I think a GW week is a good option to consider especially if they keep raising point charts without further reducing them in other weeks. This is the only way to secure your week regardless of how many points it costs in the future. With regards to DVC raising points, if a week costs 118 points now and you get a GW week but 6 years from now, it would take 132 points. If you cancel your GW week, would you then get 132 points or the 118?
 
. . . With regards to DVC raising points, if a week costs 118 points now and you get a GW week but 6 years from now, it would take 132 points. If you cancel your GW week, would you then get 132 points or the 118?
So the contract is for the number of points that you need to book the GW, and it uses 100% of the points on the contract to book the GW, regardless of what the point chart says for that week. If you opt out of the GW, you get all of the points that your contract has - so it's not connected to what that week is going for on the chart either way.

So, for the Riviera week, for example, my GW is to get that week for 130 points. At the time the resort opened and the GW's were created, that week cost 118 points. That meant, we would be paying 130 points to book a room that it cost everyone else 118 points to book - a 10% premium. That premium is for the benefit of having the room booked for us automatically before anyone else can even book it at 11 months. This year, I believe that week costs 123 points - it was still 130 points for us. If we choose not to book that week (opt-out, etc.), we have the points we have on our contract to use in the same manner as any other member - 130 points.

Next year's point charts increase it to 130, but again, 130 for us (obviously). If they were to increase it the year after to 135 points, it would still cost us 130 for that week in October - so we'd actually be getting a savings. If we opt out, we still would just have the points that are on our contract - 130 points. It doesn't matter what the point charts at the time say the room costs - for us, it costs all of the points on that contract, which is 130 points. Most of the contract is written, I believe, identically to any other contract. We are purchasing a percentage of a unit, that is represented in points, we have those points to use, etc., etc. There's just what I assume is additional language for the Fixed/Guaranteed Week that says we have a room for whichever Week # it is (honestly not sure on the October one which week # it falls on) that's booked for us and uses all the points, etc. (I did not compare the contract for the GW to our contract that is a regular one, since they were our add-on contracts - as I mentioned, we bought 200 points but split it into two contracts, one GW for 130 and a 70-point one to make up the difference to get to 200.)

While more technical with the GW on how it works with opting out, so I left it off my post, but this might help as well: technically it is said you have to call Member Services to opt out - but that's only once the room is booked for you. I haven't tried to cancel the week on the Member site, since I was using the points very soon after and didn't want to risk issues, I don't know whether canceling online would work. I can say though, that you also can opt out of your week before it's booked rather simply - not have the points there to book it. In other words, if you've used the points already (another booking in that UY, borrowed them, etc.), the GW reservation simply won't be booked for you.

How this might help understand how it works - your points are in your Member Dashboard the same as any other contract. So if it's before the timeframe they'd book your GW, your points are simply there as available points, in the amount of the contract (assuming you haven't used any for that UY), the same as they would normally be. Then once they book your GW, it takes those points and they're no longer available, obviously. Prior to that though, there's nothing on the Member Dashboard even distinguishing that you have a GW.

An interesting little quirk though, once that reservation is booked, in your Dashboard, it shows it as costing the number of points that the Point Chart would have it at - however, you just have that many fewer points available to you - it doesn't show where that difference went, you should just know that those points are used up because of your GW. For example, before we cancelled it with MS, our Riviera week was booked for us this October. The reservation showed the cost as 123 points. However, our account had 130 points used - so if you were doing the math on your reservations and available points based off of your Dashboard and what your reservations cost with what's left, it would appear that points are "missing." If you only have one contract and you're always using your GW, it's a non-issue. If you have more than one contract or you have banked points, etc., it can catch you a little off-guard if you're not thinking about one of the reservations being the GW.
 
So an update. We decided to go with 150 points instead of fixed week, and wrote back to our guide (I was so nervous, rewrote the email about a dozen times before sending it) and sure enough, as you brilliant people all predicted he said they can do October use year!!!!

So we accepted! We haven't decided what to do with our "bonus" 2020 points yet, but I think we will either do a last-minute trip this summer (I know there's not much available, but using "availability tool" websites looks like we can find space at least somewhere for a long weekend), or bank them and then blow it all on a Cascade Cabin for a single night before our Disney Cruise next spring (not a sensible use I know, but when else would we get a chance to do that guilt-free since we didn't pay dues on those points?).

I really can't thank you all enough. I would have been so lost and almost certainly would have made some really bad decisions without this thread. Now I just feel so relieved.

I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS IS REALLY HAPPENING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think I might cry when I hear them say "welcome home."

:figment:
 
or bank them

Bank them and you will never have to worry in the future about being short on points. You can slowly use them up over time as its never bad to have an extra 10-20-30 points for an extra night or two.

Downside is if there is another full shutdown you might lose them but I am betting against that for the next 10 years.
 
So an update. We decided to go with 150 points instead of fixed week, and wrote back to our guide (I was so nervous, rewrote the email about a dozen times before sending it) and sure enough, as you brilliant people all predicted he said they can do October use year!!!!

So we accepted! We haven't decided what to do with our "bonus" 2020 points yet, but I think we will either do a last-minute trip this summer (I know there's not much available, but using "availability tool" websites looks like we can find space at least somewhere for a long weekend), or bank them and then blow it all on a Cascade Cabin for a single night before our Disney Cruise next spring (not a sensible use I know, but when else would we get a chance to do that guilt-free since we didn't pay dues on those points?).

I really can't thank you all enough. I would have been so lost and almost certainly would have made some really bad decisions without this thread. Now I just feel so relieved.

I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS IS REALLY HAPPENING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think I might cry when I hear them say "welcome home."

:figment:

Woohoo! Wooohoo! Woohoo! Such a great day for you and such a great resort!
 
Bank them and you will never have to worry in the future about being short on points. You can slowly use them up over time as its never bad to have an extra 10-20-30 points for an extra night or two.

Downside is if there is another full shutdown you might lose them but I am betting against that for the next 10 years.
Good advice!

Woohoo! Wooohoo! Woohoo! Such a great day for you and such a great resort!
Congratulations!

Thank you!!! It really is our favorite resort. Will count down the days until I am lounging by the beau soleil pool with an Almande grog from Bar Riva.
 















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