Rittenhouse Verdict

[tinatark]

Wonder which jury member will parlay their service into a book/tv deal ?

 

[PezRuth]

Infuriating.

 

[JimMIA]

And if you believe that happens 100% of the time, I have a bridge to sell you.

I didn't say it happens 100%. It is what is supposed to happen, and it's a critical part of our criminal justice system and vitally important to the interests of both sides in any trial. It's what GOOD juries do, not what EVERY jury does.

The fact is that much of what you see in any news story of any crime is either just plain wrong, would not be admissible as evidence in a criminal trial, or is just opinion.

 

[lorimay]

Strange how a lone female juror asked to bring home the jury instructions as to the rules of law last night and the judge allowed. CNN saying that was something never done before.
I wonder if she was the hold out and then she took it home and made her decision today.

 

[PinkPixel]

This.. All of this. The news only reports the sensational bits, not all the facts. And those who watched the whole thing or even most of it know the prosecution did a horrible job and didn't prove their case. This is about facts, not emotion.

The prosecutor did a comicially bad job.

Matters if they watched it on a channel that spent days having every host and guest from 8 am to 10 pm condemning the prosecution and making the case for the defense.

 

[cvjw]

Can not wait until he sues everyone in the media and goverment who lied about him. He will be so wealthy after this.

 

[SteveH]

... When Rittenhouse's attorney got up in court and said he was glad he killed people, it is sickening.

The full quote is more helpful in understanding the facts. From NPR, "Kyle shot Joseph Rosenbaum to stop a threat to his person. And I'm glad he shot him," Richards said. "Because if Joseph Rosenbaum had got that gun, I don't for a minute believe he wouldn't have used it against somebody else."

 

[DisneyMomx7]

Maybe some federal charges will be filed.

 

[dvcgirl67]

Not surprised. The prosecution did a a terrible job. Sends a really bad message to those looking to the militia types who are itching for a chance to play tough guy.

Now let's see if we can avoid some additional deaths set off by the idiots screaming at each other on the steps of the court house. However....the news cameras and the live streamers will stay there to document the shouting, ratcheting up the chance of violence. It's all so stupid.....and also sad and depressing.

 

[bdcp]

I didn't say it happens 100%. It is what is supposed to happen, and it's a critical part of our criminal justice system and vitally important to the interests of both sides in any trial. It's what GOOD juries do, not what EVERY jury does.

The fact is that much of what you see in any news story of any crime is either just plain wrong, would not be admissible as evidence in a criminal trial, or is just opinion.

This also applies to civil lawsuits. A great example is the McDonald's coffee burn lawsuit. The news only reported a portion that made it out to almost be a joke. If you google the actual case (it's on several legal sites) you can see the full story. We had a discussion with a lawyer from NY who told us the whole story and how the media had twisted it. Big surprise, not.

 

[TwoMisfits]

It's a good day for the rule of law. A person was found not guilty by 12 peers who reviewed the facts of the prosecution's case and did not believe they proved guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

Even with all of the potential upset with possible rioting, people could put that aside and do what they felt was the right thing. That's a good, necessary thing for our legal system to be able to keep functioning as it should.

 

[Sinder]

I wondered why the judge did not sequester the jury from the onset, I was surprised that he did not.
I watched the trial, I am not surprised by the jury's verdict and feel it was the correct one based on the evidence presented.

 

[DisneyMomx7]

Maybe he shouldn't have posed giving a white supremist hand signal - lets see him try to sue for defamation of character after that little tidbit.

 

[smokeyblue]

My opinion is absolutely nobody was right in this situation and there are no winners here.

What I find abhorrent is that this child was put in this situation. There are so many other things that I'm disgusted about in regard to the people surrounding this kid, but that's not for discussion here.

 

[Tinks]

Maybe some federal charges will be filed.

The Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution provides that no person shall "be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb." It's a relatively straightforward concept: The government can't prosecute someone more than once for the same crime.

 

[dez1978]

I didn't say it happens 100%. It is what is supposed to happen, and it's a critical part of our criminal justice system and vitally important to the interests of both sides in any trial. It's what GOOD juries do, not what EVERY jury does.

The fact is that much of what you see in any news story of any crime is either just plain wrong, would not be admissible as evidence in a criminal trial, or is just opinion.

I agree. I'm just saying that just because thats what they are supposed to do doesn't mean it happens. I think most people don't really get how much of what is presenting in the news as fact is really distorted or blatently false. People also don't really understand how the legal system works in general. You see it all the time on FB whenever someone gets arrested or indicted. There doesn't really need to be much at all to get an arrest warrant, just enough to say it might have happened and a judge will sign an arrest warrant. But by goodness people will swear that if a person was arrested there HAD to be some evidence to PROVE they did the thing. Not saying that happened here, just in general that ppl don't really have a sense of how this works.

 

[rotlex]

Praise God our justice system works as intended!

 

[tinatark]

Maybe he shouldn't have posed giving a white supremist hand signal - lets see him try to sue for defamation of character after that little tidbit.

The okay sign? Smh.

 

[dez1978]

Matters if they watched it on a channel that spent days having every host and guest from 8 am to 10 pm condemning the prosecution and making the case for the defense.

lol, what a news host says about something doesn't change the facts. Doesn't matter if you watched it on CNN or Fox. He still was an idiot. But it does go to show that Media spin is a huge problem

 

[tinatark]

The Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution provides that no person shall "be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb." It's a relatively straightforward concept: The government can't prosecute someone more than once for the same crime.

Aren't the officers in Missouri facing Federal charges for crimes they've already been convicted of?