Rise of the Resistance BOARDING GROUPS Superthread Part 1 *No Ride Spoilers Please* *PLEASE READ POSTS 1-4*

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NorthernCalMom

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So funny that a lot of us Disney lovers are data nerds!
Is it the Disney LOVERS or they Disney PREPPERS in particular whom you are more likely to run into here, hungry for statistical input and happy to share what we find? Also, it may be that nerds and other connaisseurs of numbers and patterns feel more drawn to prepping (as opposed to seats-of-the-pants park touring styles)? That definitely covers me... my family appreciates my research, since it helps us minimize waiting, but I’m not just doing it for them; I actually genuinely enjoy looking at numbers & finding patterns as well as observing how Disney operations tries to deal with challenging, emotion-laden crowd control issues. There is so much beauty in data!!!
 

JWelch62

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Data nerds rule the world! Or at least the theme park :)

I’m enjoying this graph today. They added
The trend line now that there’s a week’s worth of data to work with. Looking good so far today. View attachment 467842
Very cool. I've noticed that, barring the ride shutting down, the rate of BGs called increases about 2 hrs after the first BG is called. This makes sense to me as first there is the initial burst of BGs as the ride opens, and then a slow down while they work through those first groups. After 2 hours the initial groups are out, freeing up space. This has held (mostly) true for any day the ride has not gone down in the first 2 hours.

BTW, also a nerd. IC designer with an unhealthy love for Excel. 😄
 
  • Susie63

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    Has anyone been through the DAS line and the regular line? I am wondering if I will miss out on any cool stuff by going through the DAS line?
     

    dina444444

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    Has anyone been through the DAS line and the regular line? I am wondering if I will miss out on any cool stuff by going through the DAS line?
    You just miss some “props” and the things to play the play app game. The preshows start after the merge. I’ve been down the fp/das line at dhs once since we had one of the first boarding groups called one of our days.
     

    EmJ

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    Very cool. I've noticed that, barring the ride shutting down, the rate of BGs called increases about 2 hrs after the first BG is called. This makes sense to me as first there is the initial burst of BGs as the ride opens, and then a slow down while they work through those first groups. After 2 hours the initial groups are out, freeing up space. This has held (mostly) true for any day the ride has not gone down in the first 2 hours.

    BTW, also a nerd. IC designer with an unhealthy love for Excel. 😄
    No amount of love for Excel is unhealthy 😉
     
  • BigOHawk

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    Bricker of DisneyLand Touring Blog does a great job along with the all the folks in this thread explaining RoTR process, complete with screenshots and tips and tricks!
     

    Evh412

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    This was the first thread I ever checked out and silently lurked for the past week . I wanted to share my experience to help anyone else trying.

    My husband and I practiced the boarding procedure from home and got the red button to light up fairly quickly the few times we tried. We used the Apple Watch as a countdown clock.

    We were let into the gates at 7:30 ish yesterday for Magic Morning. We ended up near the submarines , internet speeds were at 100 testing with ookla there weren’t that many people around.

    We stayed off WiFi and just used T-Mobile LTE. We both have iPhone 10s.

    We bought fast passes and confirmed our tickets were active and linked . We restarted our phones, closed all our apps. 8:57 rolled around and more people started to come, I did another internet speed test and we were only pinging at 35 and not 100 like previously.

    We employed the method we had been using at home. Except It didn’t work this time. It just kept pulling up a gray button, never turned red.

    We started the process with the app already open. We both were panicked so i closed out the app finally and reopened it and we got BG 107.

    5 groups around me who knew what they were doing all got BG groups of 85 or higher, but one older couple got BG 45. There was only one group cheering but looking around most people seemed disappointed. Everyone seemed to employ different methods of trying to get tickets.

    We had to leave early and didn’t get a chance to ride. The park was fairly empty yesterday and we had the best time and rode a lot of rides. We went without the kids and it was so fun doing what WE wanted to do lol.

    I would suggest finding a spot where your signal is good, internet speed is strong and there aren’t a lot of people. If there are more than 2 people in your party I would maybe have one person try with the app already open and one person open the app fresh.

    My overall advice - you can only control so much and dissecting this process as I did still may not yield the results you want. I think it’s just a random process that sometimes favors certain factors because you’re using the internet and it’s, well it’s the internet. Good luck everyone!
     
  • HydroGuy

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    Disneyland has 18M visitors a year and from blogs I've read, a guesstimate is some 25% are locals while the majority or not and the real spenders in hotels/in-park spending.
    I have no information in the recent years, but my understanding is that the number is closer to 70% locals at DLR. FWIW it is about 15% at WDW. If someone has better, more recent or more accurate information that would be great to hear!

    :wizard:
     

    HydroGuy

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    As of 5 years ago, Disney was telling cast members taking the traditions course that 80% of Disneyland visitors on any given day are locals, 20% from outside the "southern CA" area, as defined by the zip codes that cover fro Bakersfield down to the southern border.

    I don't suspect that statistic has changed all that much. But, Disney has never and will never make the exact information public, so no one knows for sure. I go by the parking lots and the fact that most people who come from out of the area don't use them, yet they are usually almost full. Disneyland has around 25,000 parking spaces.
    OK, thanks, I posted my PP before seeing this. I have a hard time seeing it is as high as 80%, but have no information to dispute that. Thanks! :thumbsup2

    :wizard:
     

    Skyegirl1999

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    OK, thanks, I posted my PP before seeing this. I have a hard time seeing it is as high as 80%, but have no information to dispute that. Thanks! :thumbsup2

    :wizard:
    I have heard that it’s “up to 80% on certain days,” which I find possible for some times of year (especially a few years ago when APs were soooo prevalent) - but then there are times (like Christmas week) that are maybe 10% APs.

    It’s also important for people to distinguish between “locals” and “APs.” There will be a lot of locals who visit this spring on the three-day ticket deal, or who buy a one-day ticket for a birthday or something... and there are a lot of APs who live far away and just make 2-3 longer trips a year on their APs. So it’s hard to make generalizations about “locals” or “APs.”
     

    CaliforniaGirl09

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    Just arrived for the much awaited birthday weekend for DS22 special needs. Staying at the grand so came into CA Adventure first to eat lunch. Kind of funny at check-in, the CM went through a whole spiel on boarding groups not being guaranteed and trying to put a spin on not getting one. I told her 2 of us had ridden at WDW but she had a script :) My sense is they’ve had lots of disappointed and upset guests complaining so they are trying to set low expectations. Hopefully my son will not be one of them!
     

    Ferrellcon

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    DHS is at 142. Well done to them. Disneyland is at 61 at 2:17 i hope they do well today. They have about 6 hours left till they stop calling boarding groups due to them closing early for maintenance. It seems they may get through the regular groups and some backup today.
     

    montreid

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    Just arrived for the much awaited birthday weekend for DS22 special needs. Staying at the grand so came into CA Adventure first to eat lunch. Kind of funny at check-in, the CM went through a whole spiel on boarding groups not being guaranteed and trying to put a spin on not getting one. I told her 2 of us had ridden at WDW but she had a script :) My sense is they’ve had lots of disappointed and upset guests complaining so they are trying to set low expectations. Hopefully my son will not be one of them!
    Going up there tomorrow for Sat-Mon but will miss out sat AM. excited to see compared to WDW. Only got to ride once out there. this time in SoCal Sun so already a win! :)
     

    Ferrellcon

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    Just arrived for the much awaited birthday weekend for DS22 special needs. Staying at the grand so came into CA Adventure first to eat lunch. Kind of funny at check-in, the CM went through a whole spiel on boarding groups not being guaranteed and trying to put a spin on not getting one. I told her 2 of us had ridden at WDW but she had a script :) My sense is they’ve had lots of disappointed and upset guests complaining so they are trying to set low expectations. Hopefully my son will not be one of them!
    I would like to read that script to see what they are telling guests and how they are setting those low expectations without angering them lol.
     

    Ferrellcon

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    I wonder what would happen if they somehow managed to get through all the boarding groups and still have time to load more guests? Would they just open the standby line at that point or would they just reopen the boarding groups?
     

    dina444444

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    I wonder what would happen if they somehow managed to get through all the boarding groups and still have time to load more guests? Would they just open the standby line at that point or would they just reopen the boarding groups?
    They’ve pixie dusted at dhs before in the evening so they could do the same at Disneyland.
     
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