RIP Ozzy Osbourne

I was a bit too old to 'appreciate' heavy metal. Not my cup of tea. But that genre of music was very in vogue when Vince was in his late teens, early 20's and still at home. And he played it in his bedroom. Too loud. :laughing: I called his heavy metal stuff, his 'angry music'. All (most) of the songs sounded like everybody was screaming and angry. Still sounds that way to me. And I think he still listens to that kind, I'll hear it sometimes at his house.

Anyway, I never followed or listened to Ozzy, but do know of him. I never watched his 'reality' show. But may he now rest in peace. A tough life I guess.
 
I was a bit too old to 'appreciate' heavy metal. Not my cup of tea. But that genre of music was very in vogue when Vince was in his late teens, early 20's and still at home. And he played it in his bedroom. Too loud. :laughing: I called his heavy metal stuff, his 'angry music'. All (most) of the songs sounded like everybody was screaming and angry. Still sounds that way to me. And I think he still listens to that kind, I'll hear it sometimes at his house.

Anyway, I never followed or listened to Ozzy, but do know of him. I never watched his 'reality' show. But may he now rest in peace. A tough life I guess.
I find it so amazing how so many musicians were so heavy into drugs, like Ozzy and Keith Richards plus many others have manage to live as long they did and have. I don't know if he had a tough life or not, but I doubt he remembered most of it. Anyway, RIP Ozzy and condolences to his family.
 
I was a bit too old to 'appreciate' heavy metal. Not my cup of tea. But that genre of music was very in vogue when Vince was in his late teens, early 20's and still at home. And he played it in his bedroom. Too loud. :laughing: I called his heavy metal stuff, his 'angry music'. All (most) of the songs sounded like everybody was screaming and angry. Still sounds that way to me. And I think he still listens to that kind, I'll hear it sometimes at his house.

Anyway, I never followed or listened to Ozzy, but do know of him. I never watched his 'reality' show. But may he now rest in peace. A tough life I guess.

Heavy Metal is coming back in new ways, mostly from other countries who are re-defining the genre.

I'm a huge fan of Babymetal, Japanese J-pop mixed with Heavy Metal, Bloodywood, Indian Folk Metal with great positive messages, Electric Callboy, silly German metal...lots of others.

They're much different than the old heavy metal sound we were used to, but Ozzy and Black Sabbath started it all, much respect and RIP.
 

I'm not a big Ozzy fan - but I can respect the guy and how he stayed relevant pretty much for almost his entire career.
I've also heard from many people - directly - that he really was good to his fans - which is a rarity in music in general IMO.

He also never seemed to be one to open his mouth about things he did not know about - unlike so many other musicians who seem to think they are entitled to give their onion and pine on about things they learned about yesterday because its the hot new topic.

He did not take himself to seriously.
 
Never listened to his music or followed his life. But may RIP.

Like Dan, my son was the one into Heavy Metal music. I never liked it.
 
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The kids of 70s early 80s laughed at how bad the media misunderstood Black Sabbath. Far from being devil worshippers they actually sang about ethics and what it is to be a good person, at times even championing aspects of a Christian upbringing. Yeah it was wrapped up in a spooky bow and relied on shock value. If you’ve never read the lyrics you might surprised by the messages.

AI framed it like this:

In essence, Black Sabbath's moral code, often expressed through their lyrics and imagery, could be described as
a form of apocalyptic moralism rooted in a critique of societal ills and a call for justice and responsibility.

Here's a breakdown of their perspective:

  • Critique of Injustice and Oppression: Their songs frequently condemn war, social chaos, corruption, and the abuses of power by leaders and institutions. For instance, "War Pigs" is a powerful anti-war anthem that depicts warmongers facing divine retribution.
  • Confronting Evil: Rather than promoting evil, Black Sabbath often explored it to highlight its dangers and consequences. Their use of dark and supernatural imagery served as a warning, a kind of "moral horror," about the forces that threaten humanity and individual well-being. Geezer Butler, the primary lyricist, has even explicitly stated that songs like "Black Sabbath" were warnings against the occult.
  • Emphasis on Personal Responsibility: While the band often expressed feelings of despair and alienation in their music, particularly in the early days, they also conveyed a sense of the need for individuals to make choices and take responsibility for their actions and lives, rather than simply succumbing to cynicism or apathy.
  • Hope for Love and Unity (Despite the Darkness): Although their lyrical themes are often dark and foreboding, Black Sabbath's work ultimately holds a glimmer of hope. They envision a world where love and unity can prevail, achieved through confronting the problems they highlight and through human action and will. The song "Children of the Grave" is a powerful example, urging people to spread love and be brave in the face of societal challenges.

It's important to differentiate Black Sabbath's use of dark themes from actual Satanism. Founding members like Tony Iommi wore crucifixes, and Geezer Butler, raised Catholic, wrote lyrics that were often inspired by his own reflections on faith and the battle between good and evil, according to VICE. The band explicitly rejected invitations to join Satanic groups and have repeatedly denied any involvement in devil worship or promotion of such beliefs. Their "dark side" was largely a stylistic choice, influenced by horror films and reflecting the anxieties and realities of the working-class environment they grew up in.
 
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