relationship advice requested

theotherme

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So, I usually post under another name, but I want this to be anonymous.

Warning, this is kind of long...

I am worried (have been for a year) that my dbf is cheating. We currently live together.

His background:
He is 23. Works full time and goes to school full time (2 nights per week). He comes froma divorced family where his mother is very up-and-down and his father was somewhat absent most of his life, and has been divorced 5 times (4 divorces due to his infidelity). Last week, boyfriend was diagnosed as Bipolar II and put on Depakote.

Things that have happened:
1) Last year he had a MySpace account. Every time I posted to his board, my comments were deleted. Other girls would post and he would leave their comments on. One day, I knew his password and checked his private messages. He had been messaging a girl from Oregon (we live in TN) and it was fairly innocent with a lot of "where are you - I can't wait to talk to you!". I confronted him and he cancelled the account.
2) I had an instinct last october to check his text messages on his phone while he slept. He had messages from a girl he talks to on AIM (an "old friend" who lives about 40 minutes from here) who said all sorts of not-so-appropriate sexual things about what she couldn't wait to do to him in the back of his car (because they couldn't do it at their homes and they couldn't afford a hotel room). I flipped out and he said he had never seen the messages (in his defense, I dont' remember there being any replies from him). Later that day, he said he called he and yelled at her and that she had apparently meant to send the messages to someone else. He said she's married and has 2 little kids. I found her on AOL and myspace and her profiles said nothing like that, but boyfriend said that "of course she'll say that - she's a slut". Anyway, she sent his a couple other texts saying "hey" following that, but he always said they were just friends.
3) the past year has been full of him being somewhat secretive about who is calling/texting him. He always either has a password on his computer or deletes his history or recently viewed items.
4) I discovered last fall that he watched a lot of... adult videos online. He got defensive, angry, did it anyway forever. In July of this year, he finally admitted that, since we've been together and (says he) wants to marry me, it's not appropriate and needs to learn not to look at it.

There are other things, but they are small and I think I've covered the big things. The only other major thing is that he tells a lot of little white lies. I catch him in them all the time. He always denies it, but I know better. I really love him and I support him. He pays my living expenses and in general takes great care of me. Even if he has done these things in the past, if it's due to him being Bipolar, I'm willing to forgive and forget as long as things get better. But how do I trust and get over all of it? Especially if I am just being paranoid and he never did anything in the first place.

I am 24 and in a very demanding graduate program and I need to just get to the bottom of this situation emotionally. Do you suggest I get counseling? Argh... and I'm worried he's nto being totally honest with his psychiatrist, and that when he begins his counseling in a few months he wont' be totally honest either, because he's afraid of looking bad. I guess I'm looking for any advice - your opinions, and esp. if you have a bipolar SO. Thanks.
 
No, I don't suggest counseling, I suggest you find a new boyfriend. Life is tough enough, why add to it?If there are already all these red flags, why continue? Especially when there is no commitment between the two of you and this is just dating.
I know it is not easy, I was once young and thought there was no one else out there in the world for me....but trust me, there are! I dated several morons until I got wise. I dated guys I knew were unfaithful and put up with it and now I look back and wonder why I ever did? Its annoying because I wasted my time.
I am definitely not trying to sounf harsh...I am rushing to type because I have 2 little kids and they are distracting me. But please, don't waste any more of your time on this guy. You can do better. Good luck to you. :goodvibes

And remember: When one door closes, another one opens.
 
I'm so sorry to hear what you're going through :hug: It really sounds to me like he's been cheating and I know it is so hard to imagine moving on because you get so accustomed to the routines in your current relationship. Its your life and your decision on what to do and I wish you ALL THE BEST, but I just want to say that I think you deserve better than this.
 

Having just ended a marriage with a bi-polar man, I'll share the very basic issue with a bi-polar person.

Life is ALL ABOUT THEM. My ex was up-front about his illness before we married, but I truly didn't understand that basic issue.

If you're worried he's not being honest now, he probably isn't. And he probably sees no reason to be honest. He may not even see that those lies are really lies. After all, if the only thing that matters is his happiness, then he's not lying, he's just making his world run the way he wants it to run, right???

Obviously, you are the only one who can decide what to do, but please consider looking at the rest of your life and be sure that you can live it putting your SO's needs and wants far above your own.
 
Yikes. Count your lucky stars he's your boyfriend and not your husband and cut your losses honey. That is the best advice I can give you. :grouphug:
 
My only concern is that the research I've doen on Bipolars is that in their manic state, they often do uncharacteristic sexual things... so if he is now treated, and it stops, can I just chalk anything that might have happened up to the chance that he wouldn't have done anything had it not been for his disorder?
 
I would run, run like the wind. Sorry.

You have no idea what he has actually acted on and what 'danger' he has brought back to you.
 
His bi-polar condition can explain why he does what he does, but it can't excuse it. What he does has consequences, it hurts you. You shouldn't have to refrain from feeling hurt and suspicious just because of the bi-polar.

I won't tell you what to do. Maybe you want to forgive, and give him another chance at becoming healthy. But I can tell you, DH and I have been married for almost 15 years, and he has never made me feel the way your BF has made you feel.

:grouphug:

Denae
 
theotherme said:
Do you suggest I get counseling? I guess I'm looking for any advice - your opinions.

No counseling.
Leave your BF.

You see how he is, stop wasting your time.
 
I have a sister that is manic, and she doesn't cheat on her spouse. Associating infidelity with bipolar disorder is just making excuses.

With all you've described, I have to be honest and say that it doesn't sound like he is at all committed to you. You're young... my advice would be to move on.
 
I agree with the above posters. There are a LOT of red flags there. Yes, it sounds like he is cheating. Cheating isn't always a symptom of Bipolar which means his meds may not fix that problem. Yes, it sounds like he is lying and meds may not fix that either.

Take a break for awhile, support yourself, feel self reliant and let him work on him. If it is meant to be you both will be stronger for the break.
 
My gut reaction to what you have posted is that he's not physically cheating on you necessarily but is indulging in cybersex and has an internet porn/cybersex addiction. It's risky thrill seeking behavior a lot of bipolars do. I've done a lot of research on that and have spoken to professionals if you are looking for more information on that subject. Just to be safe, I would get tested for std

If this behavior is continuing and if it has increased since his diagnosis and medication, it needs to be discussed with his Dr because his medication is not working for him. The behavior is not excusable though- he needs to admit there's a problem and seek help for it.

As far as whether or not you should stay with him, forgive him, trust him, etc... that is really up to you. I don't think you're being paranoid. I do think this is likely related to being bipolar but since I'm not an expert, just someone that has been in your position, I can't say. All signs point to being sick from my point of view and he needs help. Whether or not you stay by him is your decision. It's going to be a lot of work and it's not likely to be something he will stop cold turkey and never do again. If it is an addiction related to his illness, there are support groups you might want to look into if you stay committed to him.

Good luck! and remember you need to do what is right for you and be clear about it to him.
 
It's just so frustrating because I am a worrier and there's always a chance that I'm just over-thinking things. IF that whole text-message incident was just the girls sending him someone else's message (since there were no responses from him), would your opinions be the same?

He was cheated on by an ex, and his mom was cheated on, and he said that he knows how it feels and he would never do it to anyone else. He says it's irresponsible both emotionally and for health reasons. He also says "when do I have time?" and he really doesn't. When he's not at work, he's with me. I just don't know. If it's just that he's looking at a bunch of adult video and doens't want me to know because he knows it makes me upset, ithat's not cheating, at least...
 
theotherme said:
My only concern is that the research I've doen on Bipolars is that in their manic state, they often do uncharacteristic sexual things... so if he is now treated, and it stops, can I just chalk anything that might have happened up to the chance that he wouldn't have done anything had it not been for his disorder?

I can only answer for myself. My ex and I were married almost 17 years (last year we were separated). I went through about 5-6 years of varying levels of depression, which were hard. But the manic! He did have one short lived manic episode about 2 years before the big one.

Manic is called that for a reason. The person truly doesn't know what they are doing. But in my case, my ex would NOT get treated even though everyone was explaining to him that he was out of control. That refusal to get treatment was what made me say enough. Blaming the behavior on the illness, in my opinion, was an excuse when he wouldn't treat the illness.

So while he might not act in the negative way if he wasn't in a manic, that doesn't give him the right to act in that negative way. Only you can determine if that negative act is enough to end the relationship. In my case, I put up with way more than most people would have. But my deal breaker was when he put our daughter in danger. I'll take an awful lot and accept that "it's his illness", but I wasn't willing to put my child at risk.

It's really a risk management situation. How likely is what's going to happen, and what's the consequence of that event? Even if the likelihood is low (recurrance of the manic as long as he's medicated), if the consequence is unacceptable (risk to my child), then you have to walk away from the situation.

I hope I'm helping here. You are always welcome to pm me if you'd like to get more specific.
 
Don't make excuses for him and listen to your inner voice. My experience is usually that the gut feeling is right.
 
Being bi-polar may make him unfaithful to you, if you want to believe that, but it doesn't make him have amnesia, does it?

Quit excusing his behavior on his medicial condition. Your problem is that you not only love him, you derive your financial sustenance from him. It's more difficult to find another person to bankroll you-that's the bottom line.

So, you have to choose whether you want to continue to turn a bling eye to his dalliances, excuse it to his medicial condition, and take the money and hope for the best in the future, or tough it out and find a new person.
 
Look at the stress he puts you through!!!! Everyone deserves a relationship where they can trust and be treated with respect. He is out there for you but current BF is not the one!
 
theotherme said:
It's just so frustrating because I am a worrier and there's always a chance that I'm just over-thinking things. IF that whole text-message incident was just the girls sending him someone else's message (since there were no responses from him), would your opinions be the same?
..

What would you tell your daughter?
 
Clearly you don't want to leave him. You're making excuses. Why did you even pose the question if you're not willing to listen to anyone's opinion?

Is there a reason you cannot support yourself?
 


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