Rehoming a dog

[Imzadi]

Look, OP, take everything that everyone says here, including me, with a grain of salt. Go meet the dog. Talk to the people. Bargain with them. Read the original contract. Walk away if it doesn't feel right or if you can't get the price you think is fair.

The dog likely came from a decent breeder. That breeder planned for her birth, oversaw it with one of her own beloved dogs, and nurtured the puppy for the eight weeks or more that she was with her. She sold the pup to people she believed would take good care of the dog, and by your account, they have. They may well have been repeat customers or customers of another breeder known to the breeder of this dog. They loved and cared for the dog, and perhaps it became a lot. That can happen. Many of us are guilty of this when we take on a puppy, dog or other pet. (I remember the feeling myself when I got a puppy while still undergoing chemo.) Life happened for them, and someone is now having health problems. They feel the dog would be better off in another home and they're trying to find the right home for the dog now. Another loving home, like the ones she's had already. She does not sound like a ruined dog; she sounds like a well-bred, young one just out of puppyhood and still a year away from maturity. Hardly a lost case.

A lot of what you state may be conjecture or a "tall tale" too.

Everyone’s time & input is greatly appreciated. I know everyone brings different experiences to the table & sometimes things get added or “expanded” on here on the DIS!

Just be careful of advice from "Internet experts." There's a lot of them on the DIS and the Internet.

 

[DISNEYSQUIRRELS]

This thread has hit 5 pages friends.
To ensure that we all stay on good terms, I will say TTFN!
I think there is a DIS rule that things start to go off the rails after 5 pages.
I will post back to tell what happens with the dog either way, thanks again!

 

[HopperFan]

I have never understood the "rehoming fee". You are trying to get rid of a dog you are no longer capable of taking care of. Why would I pay you to do you a favor? If you take it to the shelter you have to pay to give up the dog. I'm not paying you to give up the dog.
It should be "free to a good home"

Sadly many free re-homed dogs are picked up to be used as bait in dog fights or other bad situations. They never want to pay for the dogs. A re-home fee will usually keep those folks away. Like I said once the family met DD and got her background, they didn't want the re-home fee.

 

[Colleen27]

I have never understood the "rehoming fee". You are trying to get rid of a dog you are no longer capable of taking care of. Why would I pay you to do you a favor? If you take it to the shelter you have to pay to give up the dog. I'm not paying you to give up the dog.
It should be "free to a good home"

Animals given away "free to good home", especially over internet forums like Craigslist or Facebook, can end up as bait for dog fighting or meet other terrible ends. The point of the rehoming fee is to ensure the dog is going to a prospective owner who actually wants the animal as a household pet. In my experience, a rehoming fee is often negotiable or waived entirely if the owner is comfortable with the person wanting to adopt.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

A lot of what you state may be conjecture or a "tall tale" too.





Just be careful of advice from "Internet experts." There's a lot of them on the DIS and the Internet.

Ain't this the truth

 

[robinb]

@Pea-n-Me ...without quoting your most recent post due to the length, thank you & that’s why I’m keeping you in mind to PM if & when this girl comes home.
Everyone’s time & input is greatly appreciated. I know everyone brings different experiences to the table & sometimes things get added or “expanded” on here on the DIS!

It’s nice to see the feedback.

I hope you keep the rest of us updated!

 

[DISNEYSQUIRRELS]

I hope you keep the rest of us updated!

I will! My family is heading to Disney & Universal for vacation. I will hopefully know much more about her soon & be able to meet her.

 

[mummabear]

I pray it was 8. Even that's pretty early, but 6 is ridiculous, unless the mother had passed away or something.

Actually apparently the optimal time to being them home is 7 weeks. After that they have develop a pecking order and a strong pattern of dominant or submissive behaviours around their littermates.

Looking at the calander, mom is due the 3rd weekend of April, and we have been told to expect to bring him home by labour weekend (Oct 25th), so 8 weeks.

This is a very reputable breeder, it is the same one we got our last Goldie from (who sadly recently passed away at 15 1/2 years)

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

It should be "free to a good home"

Even shelters and adoption agencies take on more risk when they do 'adoption fee waival' times. Granted paying money for something doesn't give guarantees but free often brings out more people who don't necessarily have good intentions as opposed to charging a fee. Now granted I think $1,000 is way too high.

There was an awful just awful situation recently (and I forget where) where a dog was taken home during a free adoption weekend, then it was sexually abused and left for dead and unfortunately the dog did pass away but not before being in what I imagine was immense pain. I seriously haven't thought about free adoption time periods the same ever since reading what happened to the poor dog. It makes me sick to my stomach.

You are trying to get rid of a dog you are no longer capable of taking care of.

Charging a re-homing fee isn't always because you can no longer care for the animal. Sometimes it's used because the local shelters are completely full and you rescued dumped pets or pets that just show up and you've tried to make sure there is no owner out there, I see that happen more often with cats/kittens. It can be as simple as someone who was trying to be kind taking in an animal (maybe during the heat, cold, storms, etc) but wasn't looking for a pet. Sometimes people also use rehoming and adoption fee interchangably.

Sadly many free re-homed dogs are picked up to be used as bait in dog fights or other bad situations.

Yeah I truly hate that dog fighting still occurs and that it happens in my metro too.

This was a recent post on Nextdoor in our general area:


Free just makes it more enticing since they don't have to go through the effort of stealing (and possibly being caught on camera from people's security systems, etc).

 

[LSUmiss]

6 weeks is too young, puppies learn a lot from Mom from 6 - 9 weeks.

All of my dogs have come to me at 6 weeks. What do they learn that I missed out on. Not being snarky. Really want to know.

 

[LSUmiss]

I once adopted a dog that needed rehomed. As the first family said "I could never take money for my family member".
I'm SHOCKED they are SELLING the dog. You don't sell family members.

Well, you usually don’t give away family members either so...

 

[Pea-n-Me]

All of my dogs have come to me at 6 weeks. What do they learn that I missed out on. Not being snarky. Really want to know.

They miss out on how to be a normal dog in terms of biting and corrections that they learn from their mom and siblings when their behavior gets to be too much, and other important things, described below. Seems insignificant, but could cost a dog dearly if it doesn't understand these lessons.

Life Lessons

When puppies stay with their mother and littermates for a minimum of between 8 and 10 weeks, they have sufficient time to develop a strong foundation of social skills. In regular playing with their siblings, puppies receive an important education on life in the canine "real world." They learn when too much is too much, whether with pouncing, biting or chasing. They fine-tune the technique of playing around without allowing it to hurt the other party. They gain an understanding of how to send messages to other dogs -- and how to decode them too. They develop patience and problem-solving skills. All of these are useful tools that are integral for positive doggie relationships later on down the line.

https://pets.thenest.com/long-should-pups-stay-mother-11544.html

 

[CarolAnn856]

Actually apparently the optimal time to being them home is 7 weeks. After that they have develop a pecking order and a strong pattern of dominant or submissive behaviours around their littermates.

Looking at the calander, mom is due the 3rd weekend of April, and we have been told to expect to bring him home by labour weekend (Oct 25th), so 8 weeks.

This is a very reputable breeder, it is the same one we got our last Goldie from (who sadly recently passed away at 15 1/2 years)

Do you have more information on the 7 week recommendation? I'd love to read more. All I'm finding is the Humane Society, which recommends 12 weeks (link), and the AKC, which recommends either 8-12 weeks (link) or 7-8 (link), but states that the earlier time frame is due to the period in which puppies learn to adapt to fear, not due to pecking order.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Even shelters and adoption agencies take on more risk when they do 'adoption fee waival' times. Granted paying money for something doesn't give guarantees but free often brings out more people who don't necessarily have good intentions as opposed to charging a fee. Now granted I think $1,000 is way too high.

There was an awful just awful situation recently (and I forget where) where a dog was taken home during a free adoption weekend, then it was sexually abused and left for dead and unfortunately the dog did pass away but not before being in what I imagine was immense pain. I seriously haven't thought about free adoption time periods the same ever since reading what happened to the poor dog. It makes me sick to my stomach.

Charging a re-homing fee isn't always because you can no longer care for the animal. Sometimes it's used because the local shelters are completely full and you rescued dumped pets or pets that just show up and you've tried to make sure there is no owner out there, I see that happen more often with cats/kittens. It can be as simple as someone who was trying to be kind taking in an animal (maybe during the heat, cold, storms, etc) but wasn't looking for a pet. Sometimes people also use rehoming and adoption fee interchangably.

Yeah I truly hate that dog fighting still occurs and that it happens in my metro too.

This was a recent post on Nextdoor in our general area:
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Free just makes it more enticing since they don't have to go through the effort of stealing (and possibly being caught on camera from people's security systems, etc).

I so agree. That case bothered me, too, when I saw it last week, though I've been following these cases for years.

We had a local case (OP knows it, I'm sure) that brought out an enormous amount of support and has even helped changed laws in MA. This dog, named Puppy Doe, had a loving home - until she was sold on Craigslist for $45. The new owner sadistically tortured and starved the dog in ways that were unimaginable and would turn your stomach, and the dog had to be euthanized due to its injuries. Thankfully the perpetrator is in jail. But it drives home the point that dogs sold on Craigslist for short money are at risk.

Warning, disturbing: https://www.boston.com/news/local-n...ed-to-know-about-the-upcoming-puppy-doe-trial

 

[Imzadi]

Even shelters and adoption agencies take on more risk when they do 'adoption fee waival' times. Granted paying money for something doesn't give guarantees but free often brings out more people who don't necessarily have good intentions as opposed to charging a fee. Now granted I think $1,000 is way too high.

There was an awful just awful situation recently (and I forget where) where a dog was taken home during a free adoption weekend, then it was sexually abused and left for dead and unfortunately the dog did pass away but not before being in what I imagine was immense pain. I seriously haven't thought about free adoption time periods the same ever since reading what happened to the poor dog. It makes me sick to my stomach.

About 10 years ago, the police discovered TWO local dog baiting groups. The first was in NJ, and made famous, due to former quarterback, Michael Vick, having participated in the ring, and then about a year and a half later the police discovered another one nearby, about 50 miles away in NY. Since then, they keep finding more operations. A Google search brings up a few more near here that are now multi-state operations in just the last year or so where they had a lot of horrible dog fighting equipment and dog blood spattered all over the walls. The groups went further underground after being found out and have been moving their operation around.

Most of the dogs found in the first group had to be destroyed. The ones that they could rescue had to go to a special facility & organization, Best Friends Animal Sanctuary, which tried to gently socialize the dogs, train them and then find the right people, who know the full history of the dog & have no children, to rehome them, if possible. The news did an update a year later, some of those dogs rescued were able to be rehomed. But, most couldn't be. They live at that facility and are expected to spend the rest of their lives there.

 

[TipsyTraveler]

 

[DISNEYSQUIRRELS]

I so agree. That case bothered me, too, when I saw it last week, though I've been following these cases for years.

We had a local case (OP knows it, I'm sure) that brought out an enormous amount of support and has even helped changed laws in MA. This dog, named Puppy Doe, had a loving home - until she was sold on Craigslist for $45. The new owner sadistically tortured and starved the dog in ways that were unimaginable and would turn your stomach, and the dog had to be euthanized due to its injuries. Thankfully the perpetrator is in jail. But it drives home the point that dogs sold on Craigslist for short money are at risk.

Warning, disturbing: https://www.boston.com/news/local-n...ed-to-know-about-the-upcoming-puppy-doe-trial

I do surely know the case, pure heartbreak.
There is s special place in hell for people that torment, torture & neglect animals.

 

[mjkacmom]

All of my dogs have come to me at 6 weeks. What do they learn that I missed out on. Not being snarky. Really want to know.

https://puphow.com/can-puppies-leave-mother-at-6-weeks.html

 

[jaybirdsmommy]

Even shelters and adoption agencies take on more risk when they do 'adoption fee waival' times. Granted paying money for something doesn't give guarantees but free often brings out more people who don't necessarily have good intentions as opposed to charging a fee. Now granted I think $1,000 is way too high.

There was an awful just awful situation recently (and I forget where) where a dog was taken home during a free adoption weekend, then it was sexually abused and left for dead and unfortunately the dog did pass away but not before being in what I imagine was immense pain. I seriously haven't thought about free adoption time periods the same ever since reading what happened to the poor dog. It makes me sick to my stomach.

Charging a re-homing fee isn't always because you can no longer care for the animal. Sometimes it's used because the local shelters are completely full and you rescued dumped pets or pets that just show up and you've tried to make sure there is no owner out there, I see that happen more often with cats/kittens. It can be as simple as someone who was trying to be kind taking in an animal (maybe during the heat, cold, storms, etc) but wasn't looking for a pet. Sometimes people also use rehoming and adoption fee interchangably.

Yeah I truly hate that dog fighting still occurs and that it happens in my metro too.

This was a recent post on Nextdoor in our general area:
View attachment 343719

Free just makes it more enticing since they don't have to go through the effort of stealing (and possibly being caught on camera from people's security systems, etc).

No way, no how could you give a dog away for free here and I cringe whenever I see people trying to do so. They end up with dog fighters as bait. Cats will too.

We watch our dogs like hawks, I'm terrified of someone stealing our Pit. There have been so many in our area that have gone missing. There was even one case where someone broke into a womans house. The only thing missing when she got home were her two Pits, their leashes, and collars. Her lab was locked in the bathroom.

I don't see a rehoming fee as charging someone for doing you a favor. It simply means that you are guaranteeing that the dog gets an actual home. Especially for a Corgi (not going back to look but I think that's what this dog is?). A free purebred corgi would be a goldmine for a puppy mill. Any popular purebred dog would.

On a different note, there used to be a guy in town that was always posting classified ads with baby ball pythons for sale. in the ads he would usually add that he ran a small animal rescue and would gladly rehome your hamsters, etc.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I so agree. That case bothered me, too, when I saw it last week, though I've been following these cases for years.

We had a local case (OP knows it, I'm sure) that brought out an enormous amount of support and has even helped changed laws in MA. This dog, named Puppy Doe, had a loving home - until she was sold on Craigslist for $45. The new owner sadistically tortured and starved the dog in ways that were unimaginable and would turn your stomach, and the dog had to be euthanized due to its injuries. Thankfully the perpetrator is in jail. But it drives home the point that dogs sold on Craigslist for short money are at risk.

Warning, disturbing: https://www.boston.com/news/local-n...ed-to-know-about-the-upcoming-puppy-doe-trial

About 10 years ago, the police discovered TWO local dog baiting groups. The first was in NJ, and made famous, due to former quarterback, Michael Vick, having participated in the ring, and then about a year and a half later the police discovered another one nearby, about 50 miles away in NY. Since then, they keep finding more operations. A Google search brings up a few more near here that are now multi-state operations in just the last year or so where they had a lot of horrible dog fighting equipment and dog blood spattered all over the walls. The groups went further underground after being found out and have been moving their operation around.

Most of the dogs found in the first group had to be destroyed. The ones that they could rescue had to go to a special facility & organization, Best Friends Animal Sanctuary, which tried to gently socialize the dogs, train them and then find the right people, who know the full history of the dog & have no children, to rehome them, if possible. The news did an update a year later, some of those dogs rescued were able to be rehomed. But, most couldn't be. They live at that facility and are expected to spend the rest of their lives there.

No way, no how could you give a dog away for free here and I cringe whenever I see people trying to do so. They end up with dog fighters as bait. Cats will too.

We watch our dogs like hawks, I'm terrified of someone stealing our Pit. There have been so many in our area that have gone missing. There was even one case where someone broke into a womans house. The only thing missing when she got home were her two Pits, their leashes, and collars. Her lab was locked in the bathroom.

I don't see a rehoming fee as charging someone for doing you a favor. It simply means that you are guaranteeing that the dog gets an actual home. Especially for a Corgi (not going back to look but I think that's what this dog is?). A free purebred corgi would be a goldmine for a puppy mill. Any popular purebred dog would.

On a different note, there used to be a guy in town that was always posting classified ads with baby ball pythons for sale. in the ads he would usually add that he ran a small animal rescue and would gladly rehome your hamsters, etc.

Know that I'm not 'liking' the posts because of the topic at hand. Lots of good information you all have included though I hope you understand @Pea-n-Me if I don't click on the link to hear more about Puppy Doe I'll take your word on what happened.

All I can say is there are some truly vile people out there .

*Sorry OP for the turn in topic