Regarding the Guest Who attacked the CM at DL.

[kaligal]

I'd be very, very surprised to hear this was related to diabetes. As has been mentioned, people having reactions slide. They slide fast enough that we'd have seen a progression in the time that video was taken.

This guy stopped when he was sprayed and remained pretty calm until they sprayed him again for not lying down. He was also very clear headed about his desire to attack the guy spraying him and carried it out fairly well.

I've seen a lot of diabetic slides and am pretty good at spotting them. This didn't seem at all like that to me.

I don't know what the issue was or why he was such a pain (though I'd guess drunk, mentally ill, or both), but I'd be very surprised to hear it was all hypoglycemia related.

Stress, heat and activity all contribute to hypoglycemia so jumping to that conclusion isn't too far fetched. In fact, I'm surprised that in all my time in WDW parks I've only seen one person in real trouble. The family handled it beautifully and the Disney staff girl was great about doing what was asked and not panicking.

But I don't think that diabetes will be an out for this guy. He may have needed to sleep something off, but I doubt it was a DM episode.

 

[GoofyforDisney3]

Diabetes was just a "suggestion" that there are often other things that can make a person do things that may not be normal. Everyone was jumping to conclusions that the man had to be drunk and I said it could be any number of things.

 

[sayhello]

Just as a suggestion. Have your son make a card that says he is diabetic and place it behind the driver's license in his wallet. If your son is ever pulled over and is having an insulin reaction, the cops will pull the license and then will see the diabetic card. I made myself one and laminated it. It has my name, husband's phone number, list of current medications, doctor's number and anything else that is important.

I sometimes wish you could have Diabetic printed somewhere on your driver's license like they do for organ donation. But since they don't, this card has been helpful. Also, if I am in an accident, all the information the doctors need is right there. I also have a medic bracelet but it isn't kept up to date like it should, so the card is quite helpful.

Oooo... That's a really, really good idea. I'm going to do that!

Sayhello

 

[daneenm]

Just as a suggestion. Have your son make a card that says he is diabetic and place it behind the driver's license in his wallet. If your son is ever pulled over and is having an insulin reaction, the cops will pull the license and then will see the diabetic card. I made myself one and laminated it. It has my name, husband's phone number, list of current medications, doctor's number and anything else that is important.

I sometimes wish you could have Diabetic printed somewhere on your driver's license like they do for organ donation. But since they don't, this card has been helpful. Also, if I am in an accident, all the information the doctors need is right there. I also have a medic bracelet but it isn't kept up to date like it should, so the card is quite helpful.

Thanks. He is only 11 now so we have lots of time to plan this out. He wears a very visible Medic Alert Bracelet at all times as well. The thing is, a LOT can happen to him BEFORE someone takes the time to look at his license or medic alert bracelet. In the case of the video I just saw of the driver being beaten (from the view of the police car video camera), the man was severely hit and kicked (in my view, he was beaten) before anyone spent any time to check him out and found insulin in his shirt pocket. No attempt was made to look for a bracelet or license until after the beating.

My only experience is with T1D, but I imagine there are many conditions for which people have similar fears. I can only hope that the first responders do their best to look for indications of a condition early in the process.

 

[daneenm]

Diabetes was just a "suggestion" that there are often other things that can make a person do things that may not be normal. Everyone was jumping to conclusions that the man had to be drunk and I said it could be any number of things.

Agreed. My point was the same. If the guy was drunk then they may have done just what they should have. The question is, how did they know and what had they done to ascertain that? Really all just hypothetical... I wasn't there and I can only hope they have procedures in place that were followed to ***** for other causes.

 

[doconeill]

Agreed. My point was the same. If the guy was drunk then they may have done just what they should have. The question is, how did they know and what had they done to ascertain that? Really all just hypothetical... I wasn't there and I can only hope they have procedures in place that were followed to ***** for other causes.

Even if they could somehow ascertain that the cause was something other than being drunk, why would the action necessarily be different? Regardless of the cause, if the person is a danger to others or themself, the action would to be to subdue them as safely as possible.

 

[daneenm]

Even if they could somehow ascertain that the cause was something other than being drunk, why would the action necessarily be different? Regardless of the cause, if the person is a danger to others or themself, the action would to be to subdue them as safely as possible.

Because the action might need to be seeking immediate medical response rather than just sitting on the person until more security arrives.

 

[doconeill]

Because the action might need to be seeking immediate medical response rather than just sitting on the person until more security arrives.

He still needs to be subdued before harming anyone else. A security response of this nature should in general include medical services.

Security is not someone who should be making medical judgements anyways.

 

[daneenm]

He still needs to be subdued before harming anyone else. A security response of this nature should in general include medical services.

Security is not someone who should be making medical judgements anyways.

You will notice that I said "rather than JUST sitting on the person until more security arrives." Yes, even a person having a medical problem might need to be subdued. No, security should not be making medical judgements. HOWEVER, as the first responder, security should know enough to look for standard forms of communicating medical issues and call for the right kind of help when they see them. I would hope that their procedures indicate that.

 

[EastYorkDisneyFan]

Also just a small point to be added, if he is actually in the military or formally wouldn't he have an extra Dog tag that would say he's diabetic. I think I read on Wikipedia under the section about US ones that if someone has a medical condition they add a third tag with that info on it.