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At approximately 8:48 a.m. on
the morning of September 11,
2001, the first pictures of the
burning World Trade Center
were broadcast on live
television. The news anchors,
reporters, and viewers had
little idea what had happened
in lower Manhattan, but there
were some people who did
know. By that time, the Federal
Aviation Administration (FAA),
the North American Aerospace
Defense Command (NORAD),
the National Military Command
Center, the Pentagon, the
White House, the Secret
Service, and Canada's
Strategic Command all knew that three commercial airplanes had been hijacked. They
knew that one plane had been flown deliberately into the World Trade Center's North
Tower; a second plane was wildly off course and also heading toward Manhattan; and
a third plane had abruptly turned around over Ohio and was flying back toward
Washington, DC.

So why, at 9:03 a.m. - fifteen minutes after it was clear the United States was under
terrorist attack - did President Bush sit down with a classroom of second-graders and
begin a 20-minute pre-planned photo op? No one knows the answer to that question.
In fact, no one has even asked Bush about it.

Bush's actions on September 11 have been the subject of lively debate, mostly on the
internet. Details reported that day and in the week after the attacks - both the media
reports and accounts given by Bush himself - have changed radically over the past 18
months. Culling hundreds of reports from newspapers, magazines, and the internet
has only made finding the "truth" of what happened and when it happened more
confusing. In the changed political climate after 9/11, few have dared raise
challenging questions about Bush's actions. A journalist who said Bush was "flying
around the country like a scared child, seeking refuge in his mother's bed after having
a nightmare" and another who said Bush "skedaddled" were fired. [Washington Post,
9/29/01 (B)] We should have a concise record of where President Bush was
throughout the day the US was attacked, but we do not.

What follows is an attempt to give the most complete account of Bush's actions -
from Florida to Louisiana to Nebraska to Washington, DC.

Preparations

Bush's appearance at the Emma E. Booker Elementary School in Sarasota, Florida, on
September 11, 2001 had been in the planning stages since August [Booker web site],
but was only publicly announced on the morning of September 7. [White House,
9/7/01] Later that same day, 9/11 hijackers Mohamed Atta and Marwan Alshehhi
traveled to Sarasota and enjoyed drinks and dinner at a Holiday Inn only two miles
down the sandy beach from where Bush was scheduled to stay during his Sarasota
visit. [Longboat Observer, 11/21/01, Washington Post, 1/27/02]

On the night of September 10th, Bush stayed at
the Colony Beach Resort - "an upscale and
relatively pristine tropical island enclave located
directly on the Gulf of Mexico, a spindly coral
island ... off Sarasota, Florida." [AP, 07/29/01]
Zainlabdeen Omer, a Sudanese native living in
Sarasota, told the local police that night that
someone he knew who had made violent threats
against Bush was in town and Omer was worried
about Bush's safety. The man was identified only
as "Ghandi." A police report states the Secret
Service was informed immediately. [Hopsicker,
7/22/02]

After a private dinner with various Florida politicians (including his brother Jeb)
and Republican donors, Bush went to bed around 10:00 p.m. [Sarasota Magazine,
11/01, Washington Post, 1/27/02] Surface-to-air missiles were placed on the
roof of the resort [Sarasota Herald-Tribune, 9/10/02], and an Airborne Warning
and Control System (AWACS) plane circled high overhead. [Fighting Back: The
War on Terrorism - From Inside the Bush White House, by Bill Sammon, 10/02, p.
25] It's not clear if this type of protection was standard for the president or
whether security was increased because of possible threats.

An Assassination Attempt?

Bush awoke a little before 6:00 a.m. on September 11, pulled on shorts and an
old T-shirt and laced up his running shoes. [CBS, 11/1/02] At 6:30 a.m., Bush, a
reporter friend, and his Secret Service crew took a four-mile jog in the half-light
of dawn around a nearby golf course. [Washington Post, 1/27/02, Washington
Post, 09/11/01]

At about the same time Bush was getting ready for his jog, a van carrying
several Middle Eastern men pulled up to the Colony's guard station. The men said
they were a television news crew with a scheduled "poolside" interview with the
president. They asked for a certain Secret Service agent by name. The message
was relayed to a Secret Service agent inside the resort, who hadn't heard of the
agent mentioned or of plans for an interview. He told the men to contact the
president's public relations office in Washington, DC, and had the van turned
away. [Longboat Observer, 9/26/01]

The Secret Service may have foiled an assassination
attempt. Two days earlier, Ahmed Shah Massoud, leader
of Afghanistan's Northern Alliance, had been murdered by
a similar ruse. Two North African men, posing as
journalists from "Arabic News International," had been
requesting an interview with Massoud since late August.
Ahmad Jamsheed, Massoud's secretary, said that by the
night of September 8, "they were so worried and
excitable, they were begging us." An interview was
arranged for the following day. As it began, a bomb
hidden in the video camera exploded, killing the two
journalists. Massoud was rushed by helicopter to a
hospital in Tajikistan, but was pronounced dead on arrival (although his death was
not acknowledged until September 15). [International Policy Institute for
Counter-Terrorism, 10/30/01, Newsday, 10/26/01] The assassination is widely
believed to have been timed to remove the Taliban's most popular and
respected opponent in anticipation of the backlash that would occur after the
9/11 attacks. [BBC, 9/10/01, BBC, 9/10/01 (B), Time, 8/4/02, St. Petersburg
Times, 9/9/02] The Northern Alliance blamed al-Qaeda and the ISI, Pakistan's
secret service, for the attacks. [Radio Free Europe, 9/10/01, Newsday, 9/15/01,
Reuters, 10/4/01]

Nearly three hours after the incident at the Colony, another Longboat Key
resident reported a run-in with possibly the same men. At about 8:50 (when
reports of the first World Trade Center crash were first broadcast), while
standing on the Sarasota bay front waiting for the presidential motorcade to
pass by, this man saw two Middle Eastern men in a dilapidated van "screaming out
the windows 'Down with Bush' and raising their fists in the air." The FBI
questioned the man, but it's not known if this was the same van that had visited
the Colony. [Longboat Observer, 9/26/01]

Later on the morning of September 11, the Secret Service searched a Sarasota
apartment looking for further corroboration of Zainlabdeen Omer's report of an
assassination threat. Three Sudanese men were questioned for about ten hours.
The Secret Service also raided a beauty supply store in Sarasota, whose owner,
identified as "Hakim," told the agents that "Ghandi" was a member of the
Sudanese People's Liberation Army, a group fighting against the fundamentalist
Muslim government in Sudan. [Hopsicker, 7/22/02]

Monica Yadav of Sarasota's ABC News 40 reported that a few days after the
Secret Service visit, the beauty supply store was closed up and Hakim was long
gone. Yadav also learned that Zainlabdeen Omer had suddenly quit his jobs and
vacated his apartment. "All I know is he can't leave town," a friend of Omer's told
Yadav. "Omer got in a lot of trouble with the law." The Special Agent in charge of
the Presidential detail in Sarasota told Yadav that Bush was never in any danger
and the various warnings and possible terrorist connections were all "just a
coincidence." [Hopsicker, 7/22/02] Yet, as we will see below, there are more
details of a threat against Bush before he left Sarasota.

Bush Is Briefed as the Hijackings Begin

After his jog, Bush showered, then sat down for his daily intelligence briefing
around 8 a.m. "The President's briefing appears to have included some reference
to the heightened terrorist risk reported throughout the summer, but contained
nothing specific, severe or imminent enough to necessitate a call to [National
Security Advisor] Condoleezza Rice." [Telegraph, 12/16/01]

While Bush was being briefed, the planes that would be hijacked began taking off.
American Airlines Flight 11 was first, leaving Boston's Logan Airport at 7:59 a.m.
The others soon followed, except for United Flight 93, scheduled to leave at
8:01, but which was delayed on the runway for about 40 minutes. [Boston Globe,
11/23/01] (For more information on the four flights, see Flight 11, Flight 175,
Flight 77, Flight 93.)

At approximately 8:13, Flight 11 was instructed by air traffic controllers at the
FAA's Boston Center, in Nashua, New Hampshire, to climb to 35,000 feet. The
plane did not obey the order and its transponder was turned off. Air traffic
control manager Glenn Michael said, "we considered it at that time to be a
possible hijacking." [AP, 8/12/02, emphasis added] According to FAA regulations,
that was the correct decision: "Consider that an aircraft emergency exists ...
when ... there is unexpected loss of radar contact and radio communications with
any ... aircraft." [FAA Air Traffic Control Regulations, Chapter 10, Section 2-5 ]

If air traffic controllers believed Flight
11 had been hijacked at 8:13, NORAD
should have been informed immediately,
so military planes could be scrambled to
investigate. However, NORAD and the
FAA both claimed NORAD was not
informed until 8:40 - 27 minutes later.
[NORAD, 9/18/01, AP, 8/12/02, AP,
8/19/02, Newsday, 9/10/02; one
NORAD employee said it took place at
8:31, ABC News, 9/11/02] Indeed,
before contacting NORAD, Boston air
traffic controllers watched Flight 11
make an unexpected 100-degree turn
and head south toward New York City
[Christian Science Monitor, 9/13/01], told other controllers of the hijacking at
8:25 [Guardian, 10/17/01], continued to hear highly suspicious dialogue from the
cockpit (such as, "Nobody move, please, we are going back to the airport. Don't
try to make any stupid moves") [Guardian, 10/17/01, New York Times,
10/16/01], and even asked the pilots of Flight 175 to scan the skies for the
errant plane. [Guardian, 10/17/01, Boston Globe, 11/23/01]

Is NORAD's claim credible? If so, the air traffic controllers (including Mr. Michael)
should have been fired and subject to possible criminal charges for their inaction.
To date, however, there has been no word of any person being disciplined at any
institution at any level for what happened on 9/11.

If NORAD's claim is false, and it was indeed informed within the time frame outlined
in FAA regulations that Flight 11 may have been hijacked, that would mean NORAD
did absolutely nothing for almost thirty minutes while a hijacked commercial
airliner flew off course through some of the most congested airspace in the
world. Presumably, that would warrant some very serious charges. Again, no one
associated with NORAD or the FAA has been punished.

According to phone calls made by fight attendants Betty Ong and Amy Sweeney,
the hijackers had stabbed and killed at least one passenger and two flight
attendants by about 8:21. [ABC News, 7/18/02, Boston Globe, 11/23/01, AP,
10/5/01, Los Angeles Times, 9/20/01] (One hijacker may have been riding in the
cockpit and begun the hijacking earlier.) After 8:21, both women apparently
remained on the phone with American Airlines' headquarters for 25 minutes, until
their plane crashed into the World Trade Center's North Tower. [ABC News,
7/18/02, AP, 10/5/01] These calls make NORAD's supposed ignorance of a crisis
even more dubious.

Bush Leaves for Booker Elementary

Around the same time the Flight 11 hijackers were
stabbing passenger Daniel Lewin - at 8:20 a.m. -
Bush's briefing ended and he said good-bye to the
Colony's general manager. [Telegraph, 12/16/01,
Sarasota Magazine, 11/01] The first event on
Bush's schedule was what is known as a "soft
event" – a photo-op with children at Emma Booker
Elementary School - promoting his proposed
education bill. [Sarasota Herald-Tribune, 9/11/01]
After spending about 20 minutes with the children, Bush was scheduled to give a
short press conference at about 9:30. [White House, 9/7/01, Federal News
Service, 9/10/01]

Accounts of when Bush's motorcade left for the school vary from 8:30 to 8:39.
[8:30, Washington Post, 1/27/02, 8:35, Sarasota Magazine, 9/19/01, 8:39,
Washington Times, 10/7/02] One account has the Bush party leave the Colony
suite at 8:30 and drive away at 8:39. Whenever he left, the motorcade traveled
quickly: "The police shut down traffic in both directions, leaving roads utterly
deserted for Bush's long motorcade, which barreled along at 40 mph, running red
lights with impunity." [Fighting Back: The War on Terrorism - From Inside the
Bush White House, by Bill Sammon, 10/02, pp. 37-38] At 40 mph, it would take
about 14 minutes to travel the nine-mile distance to the school. Several accounts
say the journey took about 20 minutes [New York Times, 9/16/01 (B), St.
Petersburg Times, 9/8/02 (B), MSNBC, 10/29/02], which means that Bush arrived
shortly before 9:00. [8:46, ABC News, 9/11/02, 8:55, Washington Times,
10/7/02, 8:55, Sarasota Magazine, 9/19/01, "just before 9:00," Telegraph,
12/16/01, "shortly before 9:00," Sarasota Herald-Tribune, 9/10/02, "just before
9:00," New York Times, 9/16/01 (B), 9:00, Albuquerque Tribune, 9/10/02]

When Did Bush First Learn of the Attacks?

Why does it matter when Bush left the resort and arrived at the school? Because
this is the crucial time when Bush was first told, or should have been told, of the
attacks. Official accounts, including the words of Bush himself, say Bush was first
told of what was happening in New York City after he arrived at the school.
[Telegraph, 12/16/01, CBS, 9/11/02] However, this statement does not stand up
to scrutiny. There are at least four reports that Bush was told of the first crash
before he arrived at the school.

Two accounts explicitly state Bush
was told while in the motorcade.
"The President was on Highway 301,
just north of Main Street ... [when]
he received the news that a plane
had crashed in New York City."
[Sarasota Magazine, 11/01] (See
adjacent map for the location where
he is told.) Another account states,
"Bush was driving to the school in a
motorcade when the phone rang. An
airline accident appeared to have
happened. He pressed on with his
visit." [Observer, 9/16/01]

The first media reports of Flight
11's crash into the World Trade
Center began around 8:48, two
minutes after the crash happened.
[New York Times, 9/15/01] CNN
broke into its regular programming at that time [CNN, 9/11/01], though other
networks, such as ABC, took a few more minutes to begin reporting. [ABC,
9/14/02] So within minutes, millions were aware of the story, yet Bush
supposedly remained unaware for about another ten minutes.

Claims of Bush's ignorance become harder to believe when one learns that others
in his motorcade were immediately told of the attack. For instance, Kia
Baskerville, a CBS News producer traveling with Bush that morning, received a
message about a plane crash "as the presidential motorcade headed to
President Bush's first event." Baskerville said, "Fifteen minutes later I was
standing in a second grade classroom [waiting for Bush's entrance]" - which
means she got the news at about 8:47 - right as the story was first being
reported. [CBS, 8/19/02] A news photographer in the motorcade overheard a
radio transmission that Press Secretary Ari Fleischer would be needed on arrival
at the school to discuss reports of some sort of crash. [Christian Science
Monitor, 9/17/01] Another account notes Fleischer got the news that the crash
had occurred "just minutes before," but notes that Bush was not in the same car
as Fleischer. [CBS, 11/1/02] Senior presidential communications officer Thomas
Herman said, "Just as we were arriving at the school, I received a notification
from our operations center than [sic] an airliner had struck one of the towers...."
[Marist College Magazine, Fall 2002]

Meanwhile, CIA Director George Tenet was told of the crash a few minutes after
it happened. A messenger gave him the news as he was eating breakfast with
former Senator David Boren in a Washington restaurant three blocks from the
White House. Boren says Tenet was told that the World Trade Center had been
attacked by an airplane: "I was struck by the fact that [the messenger] used the
word attacked." An aide then handed a cell phone to Tenet, and Tenet made
some calls, showing that at least some at the highest levels of the Bush
administration were talking about an attack at this time. Tenet then said to
Boren, "You know, this has bin Laden's fingerprints all over it." [ABC, 9/14/02]

Some people at the school also heard of the news before Bush arrived. Around
8:50, Tampa Bay's Channel 8 reporter Jackie Barron was on the phone with her
mother, who mentioned the first news reports. At almost the same time, Brian
Goff, a Fox reporter from Tampa, heard the same thing on his cell phone.
[Sarasota Magazine, 11/01] Associated Press reporter Sonia Ross was also told
of the crash by phone from a colleague. [AP, 9/12/01 (D)] Florida Congressman
Dan Miller, waiting in front of the school as part of the official greeting party, was
told by an aide about the crash at 8:55, before Bush arrived. [Sarasota
Magazine, 11/01]

Given all this, how could Bush have remained ignorant? Could he have been out of
the loop because he was in a car? No. The previous night, Colony Resort
manager Katie Klauber Moulon toured the presidential limousine and marveled "at
all the phones and electronic equipment." [Sarasota Magazine, 11/01] Karl Rove,
Bush's "chief political strategist," who presumably was riding with Bush, used a
wireless e-mail device on 9/11 as well. [Newsweek, 10/14/02] There seems to
have been ample opportunity and the means to alert Bush.

Another Warning

If Bush wasn't told while in his limousine, he certainly was
told immediately after he got out of it. US Navy Captain
Deborah Loewer, the director of the White House Situation
Room, was traveling in the motorcade when she received a
message from an assistant back in Washington about the
first crash. Loewer said that as soon as the car arrived at
Booker, she ran quickly over to Bush. "It's a very good
thing the Secret Service knows who I am," Loewer later
said. She told Bush that an aircraft had "impacted the World
Trade Center. This is all we know." [Catholic Telegraph,
12/7/01, AP, 11/26/01]

Meanwhile, More Hijackings

Even though Flight 175 left about the
same time as Flight 11, it appears to
have been hijacked much later. At
8:41, its pilot was still talking to
ground control [New York Times,
10/16/01], but at 8:42 it sharply
veered off course, and a flight
controller noted that its transponder
had been turned off and
communication cut. [Boston Globe,
11/23/01, New York Times,
10/16/01] One minute later, at 8:43,
NORAD was notified the plane had
been hijacked. [NORAD, 9/18/01]
The hijackers turned the
transponder back on but used a different signal code. This allowed flight
controllers to "easily" track the plane as it flew toward New York City.
[Washington Post, 9/17/01] At about 8:46, Flight 77 began to go severely off
course. According to regulations, a fighter is required to be dispatched if a plane
strays from its official course by more than two miles or 15 degrees [MSNBC,
9/12/01]. As the adjacent map shows, Flight 77 returned to its proper course
for a time, but its last radio contact occurred at 8:50. [Guardian, 10/17/01]
Supposedly, NORAD was not officially notified that Flight 77 has been hijacked
until 9:24 [NORAD, 9/18/01], but the New York Times reported that by around
8:50, military officials at the Pentagon were already discussing what to do about
Flight 77. [New York Times, 9/15/01] Note the difference in notification times: 27
minutes for Flight 11, 1 minute for Flight 175 and 38 minutes for Flight 77.

Flight 93 wasn't hijacked until about 9:16, but by about 8:50, it was clear that at
least three planes had been hijacked. Vice President Dick Cheney, speaking on
NBC's Meet the Press, said, "The Secret Service has an arrangement with the
FAA. They had open lines after the World Trade Center was ..." [Meet the Press,
9/16/01] Cheney never finished his sentence (interesting in itself - did he say
too much?), but it seems safe to say that his next word would have been "hit."
Cheney's statement makes it clear the Secret Service knew the extent of the
situation well before 9:00 am.

An Accident?

Intelligence agencies were suffering "warning fatigue" from so many warnings of
an al-Qaeda attack [Independent, 9/7/02], some specifically mentioning the use
of hijacked airplanes as missiles (see this essay). Bush himself was given an
intelligence briefing a month earlier entitled "Bin Laden to Strike in US," and it
contained a warning from the British government that the US should expect
multiple airline hijackings from al-Qaeda. [Sunday Herald, 5/19/02] So with the
clear knowledge that three planes had been hijacked, with one of them already
crashed into the World Trade Center, who would have possibly assumed that
Flight 11's crash was an accident? Yet that is precisely what the official story
claims. There are a number of different "official" accounts, but all of them stress
that Bush wasn't told until after he arrived inside the school (contrary to the
account of Captain Loewer) and that it was assumed to be an accident
(contradicting Tenet being told that it was an attack).

In some accounts,
"President Bush had
emerged from his car and
was shaking hands with
local officials standing
outside the school when
Chief of Staff Andrew Card
sidled up to him with the
news." [CBS, 11/1/02]
Bush later recalled that it
was Card who first notified
him: "'Here's what you're
going to be doing; you're going to meet so-and-so, such-and-such.' Then Andy
Card said, 'By the way, an aircraft flew into the World Trade Center.'" [Washington
Times, 10/7/02] At a press conference later that day, Press Secretary Ari
Fleischer also claimed it was Andy Card who first informed him, "as the President
finished shaking hands in a hallway of school officials." [Knoxville News Sentinel,
9/11/01]

In other accounts, it was advisor Karl Rove who first told Bush. According to
photographer Eric Draper, who was standing nearby, Rove rushed up, took Bush
aside in a corridor inside the school and said the cause of the crash was unclear.
Bush replied, "What a horrible accident!" Bush also suggested the pilot may have
had a heart attack. [Daily Mail, 9/8/02] Dan Bartlett, White House Communications
Director, says he was there when Bush was told: "[Bush] being a former pilot,
had kind of the same reaction, going, was it bad weather? And I said no,
apparently not." [ABC News, 9/11/02] A reporter who was standing nearby later
said, "From the demeanor of the President, grinning at the children, it appeared
that the enormity of what he had been told was taking a while to sink in." [Daily
Mail, 9/8/02] One account explicitly says that Rove told Bush the World Trade
Center had been hit by a large commercial airliner. [Telegraph, 12/16/01]
However, Bush later remembered Rove saying it appeared to be an accident
involving a small, twin-engine plane. [Washington Post, 1/27/02, MSNBC, 9/02]

In yet another account, Blake Gottesman, Bush's personal assistant, while giving
the president some final instructions as they walked to the school, remarked,
"Andy Card says, 'By the way, an aircraft flew into the World Trade Center.'"
[Fighting Back: The War on Terrorism - From Inside the Bush White House, by Bill
Sammon, 10/02, pp. 41-42]

Told Again, Yet Still Clueless

Booker principal Gwen Tose-Rigell was waiting for Bush outside
the school. "The limousine stops and the president comes out.
He walks toward me. I'm standing there in a lineup; there are
about five people. He walks over and says he has to make a
phone call, and he'll be right back." [MSNBC, 09/02, Telegraph,
12/16/01] The phone call was with National Security Advisor
Condoleezza Rice. From a room with secure communications,
Rice updated Bush on the situation. [Christian Science Monitor,
9/17/01, Time, 9/12/01] The fact that Bush immediately said he
had to make an important call strongly suggests he was told
about the situation while in the motorcade. But some accounts have Andrew Card
saying to Bush as he gets out of his limousine, "Mr. President, you really need to
take this phone call," thereby implying that Card knows what's going on, but Bush
doesn't. [St. Petersburg Times, 9/8/02 (B)]

As National Security Advisor, Rice had to have had as much information as
anyone. By the time she spoke to Bush, she must have known that three planes
had been hijacked and that the country was under attack. We know very little
about the conversation - only that Rice later claimed, "[Bush] said, what a terrible,
it sounds like a terrible accident. Keep me informed." [ABC News, 9/11/02] One
reporter noted: "Bush did not appear preoccupied [after the phone call] …
There was no sign that Rice had just told [him] about the first attack [on the
World Trade Center]." [Cox News, 9/12/01 (B)] Tose-Rigell was then summoned
to a room to talk with Bush: "He said a commercial plane has hit the World Trade
Center, and we're going to go ahead and go on, we're going on to do the reading
thing anyway." [AP, 8/19/02 (D)]

One local reporter notes that at this point, "He could and arguably should have
left Emma E. Booker Elementary School immediately, gotten onto Air Force One
and left Sarasota without a moment's delay ... But he didn't." [Sarasota
Herald-Tribune, 9/12/01 (B)] The only possible excuse is that Bush was
completely clueless as to what was happening. Sure enough, at a press
conference on the evening of 9/11, Press Secretary Ari Fleischer was asked by a
reporter, "And then this morning, when Andy Card told him about the first
accident, was Andy Card or Condi Rice or any of those aware of the hijackings?
What did they know when they --" Fleischer cut in and replied, "No, at that point
they were not." [Knoxville News Sentinel, 9/11/01] So supposedly, 15 minutes
after the first crash, none of Bush's aides, not even Rice back in Washington, DC,
knew a thing about the hijackings that had been reported to NORAD 20 minutes
earlier? This simply is not plausible.

Bush's Confused Recollection

Bush's own recollection of the first
crash only complicates the picture.
Less than two months after the
attacks, Bush made the preposterous
claim that he had watched the first
attack as it happened on live television.
This is the seventh different account
of how Bush learned about the first
crash (in his limousine, from Loewer,
from Card, from Rove, from Gottesman,
from Rice, from television). On December 4, 2001, Bush was asked: "How did you
feel when you heard about the terrorist attack?" Bush replied, "I was sitting
outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower - the
TV was obviously on. And I used to fly, myself, and I said, well, there's one
terrible pilot. I said, it must have been a horrible accident. But I was whisked off
there, I didn't have much time to think about it." [White House, 12/4/01]

There was no film footage of the first attack until at least the following day, and
Bush didn't have access to a television until 15 or so minutes later. [Washington
Times, 10/7/02] The Boston Herald later noted, "Think about that. Bush's remark
implies he saw the first plane hit the tower. But we all know that video of the first
plane hitting did not surface until the next day. Could Bush have meant he saw
the second plane hit - which many Americans witnessed? No, because he said
that he was in the classroom when Card whispered in his ear that a second plane
hit." [Boston Herald, 10/22/02] Bush's recollection has many precise details. Is he
simply confused? It's doubly strange why his advisors didn't correct him or - at
the very least - stop him from repeating the same story only four weeks later.
[White House, 1/5/02, CBS, 9/11/02] On January 5, 2002, Bush stated: "Well, I
was sitting in a schoolhouse in Florida ... and my Chief of Staff – well, first of all,
when we walked into the classroom, I had seen this plane fly into the first
building. There was a TV set on. And you know, I thought it was pilot error and I
was amazed that anybody could make such a terrible mistake. And something
was wrong with the plane..." [White House, 1/5/02]

Unfortunately, Bush has never been asked - not even once - to explain these
statements. His memory not only contradicts every single media report, it also
contradicts what he said that evening. In his speech to the nation that evening,
Bush said: "Immediately following the first attack, I implemented our government's
emergency response plans." [White House, 9/11/01] It's not known what these
emergency plans were, because neither Bush nor anyone in his administration
mentioned this immediate response again. Implementing "emergency response
plans" seems to completely contradict Bush's "by the way" recollection of a small
airplane accident.

Inside the Classroom and the Second Plane
Crash

Shortly after his call with National Security Advisor
Rice, Bush entered Sandra Kay Daniels's second-grade
class for a photo-op to promote Bush's education
policies. [Daily Mail, 9/8/02] The event was to begin
precisely at 9:00, but the call pushed it back to about
9:03. [Washington Times, 10/8/02, Telegraph,
12/16/01, Daily Mail, 9/8/02] Numerous reporters
who were traveling with the president, as well as
members of the local media, watched from the back of the room. [AP, 8/19/02
(D)] Altogether there were about 150 people in the room, only 16 of them
students. Bush was introduced to the children and then posed for a number of
pictures. Daniels then led the students through some reading exercises (video
footage shows this lasted about three minutes). [Salon, 9/12/01 (B)] Bush later
related what he was thinking at the time: "I was concentrating on the program at
this point, thinking about what I was going to say [about the plane crash].
Obviously, I felt it was an accident. I was concerned about it, but there were no
alarm bells." [Washington Times, 10/7/02]

At 9:03, Flight 175 crashed into the South Tower of the World Trade Center.
News of this traveled extremely rapidly. In fact, some of Bush's Secret Service
agents watched the second crash live on television in an adjacent room.
[Sarasota Herald-Tribune, 9/10/02] Press Secretary Ari Fleischer, in the same
room as Bush but not near him, immediately received the news on his pager.
[CBS, 9/11/02] Other pagers were going off as well.

Chief of Staff Andrew Card was in a nearby room
when he heard the news. He waited until there
was a pause in the reading drill to walk in and
tell Bush. [Washington Times, 10/7/02,
Washington Times, 10/8/02] The children were
getting their books from under their seats to
read a story together when Card came in. [Daily
Mail, 9/8/02] Card whispered to Bush: "A
second plane hit the second tower. America is
under attack." [San Francisco Chronicle,
9/11/02] Another account has Card saying: "A
second plane has hit the World Trade Center.
America is under attack." [Telegraph, 12/16/01]
Accounts vary as to when Card gave Bush the
news. Some say 9:05 [Salon 9/11/01, New York
Times, 9/16/01 (B), Telegraph, 12/16/01,
Albuquerque Tribune, 9/10/02], and some say
9:07. [Washington Post, 9/11/01, Washington
Times, 10/8/02] ABC News reporter Ann Compton, who was in the room, said she
was surprised by the interruption and "wrote [the time] down in my reporter's
notebook, by my watch, 9:07 a.m." [ABC News, 9/11/02]

The Reaction - Or Lack of One

Descriptions vary greatly as to how Bush
responded to the news. It is said he "blanched"
[Richmond Times-Dispatch, 10/1/02], "the color
drained from the president's face" [AP, 9/12/01
(D)], he "wore a bemused smile" [Orlando
Sentinel, 9/12/01], "because visibly tense and
serious" [Time, 9/12/01], and so on. Watch the
video and draw your own conclusions (the
11-minute video can be viewed at the Center
for Cooperative Research, Buzzflash, Global
Free Press, The Emperor's New Clothes, or
Liberty DYNU). Bush later recalled his own
reaction: "I am very aware of the cameras. I'm
trying to absorb that knowledge. I have nobody
to talk to. I'm sitting in the midst of a classroom
with little kids, listening to a children's story and
I realize I'm the Commander in Chief and the country has just come under attack."
[Telegraph, 12/16/01, CBS, 11/1/02] Asked again what he thought after he
heard the news, Bush said, "We're at war and somebody has dared attack us and
we're going to do something about it. I realized I was in a unique setting to
receive a message that somebody attacked us … t became evident that we
were, you know, that the world had changed." [CBS, 9/11/02]

So what did the Commander in Chief do with the knowledge that the United
States was under attack?

He did nothing.

Bush did not say one word. He did not ask Card any questions. He did not give
any orders. He did not know who (or which country) was attacking, whether
there would be more attacks, what military plans had been taken, what military
actions should be taken - indeed, he knew virtually nothing about what was going
on outside the room. He just sat there. Bush later recalled: "There was no time
for discussion or anything." [Fighting Back: The War on Terrorism - From Inside
the Bush White House, by Bill Sammon, 10/02, pp. 83-84] Even stranger, as one
newspaper put it, although the nation was under terrorist attack, "for some
reason, Secret Service agents [did] not bustle him away." [Globe and Mail,
9/12/01]

Military pilots must have "permission from the White House because only the
president has the authority to order a civilian aircraft shot down." [CNN,
10/26/99] But if retaliatory strikes needed to the authorized, Bush was not
available. If one of the planes had to be shot down to save more lives on the
ground, Bush was not available. Although several fighters had been dispatched to
defend New York City, the pilot of one of the planes flying to catch Flight 175
later noted that it wouldn't have mattered if he caught up with it, because only
Bush could order a shootdown, and Bush could not be reached in the classroom.
[Cape Cod Times, 8/21/02]

Secret Service agents and other security
personnel had set up a television in a nearby
classroom. They turned on the TV just as Flight
175 crashed into the World Trade Center.
According to Sarasota County Sheriff Bill Balkwill,
who was in the room, a Marine responsible for
carrying Bush's phone immediately said to
Balkwill, "We're out of here. Can you get
everyone ready?" [Sarasota Herald-Tribune,
9/10/02] But he must have been overruled by
someone, because Bush did not leave.

Meanwhile, Secret Service agents burst into Vice
President Cheney's White House office. They
carried him under his arms - nearly lifting him off the ground - and propelled him
down the steps into the White House basement and through a long tunnel toward
an underground bunker. Accounts of when this happened vary greatly, from 9:06
[New York Times, 9/16/01 (B), Telegraph, 12/16/01] to after 9:30. [CBS,
9/11/02, Washington Post, 1/27/02] Cheney's own account is vague and
contradictory. [Meet the Press, 9/16/01] The one eyewitness account, by White
House photographer David Bohrer, said it happened just after 9:00. [ABC,
9/14/02 (B)] It's easy to see why the White House would have wanted this event
placed at a later time (after Bush's initial statement to the nation rather than
after the second crash) to avoid the obvious question: if Cheney was immediately
evacuated, why wasn't Bush?

The Photo-Op Goes On

After Card told Bush about the second plane and quickly left, the classroom was
silent for about 30 seconds or so. [Tampa Tribune, 9/1/02] The children were
about to take turns reading from a story called The Pet Goat. [AFP, 9/7/02]
Bush picked up the book and began to read with the children. [Tampa Tribune,
9/1/02] In unison, the children read out loud, "The - Pet - Goat. A - girl - got - a -
pet - goat. But - the - goat - did - some - things - that - made - the - girl's - dad -
mad." Bush mostly listened, but occasionally asked the children a few questions
to encourage them. [Washington Times, 10/7/02] At one point he said, "Really
good readers, whew! ... These must be sixth-graders!" [Time, 9/12/01]

Who was really in control? Certainly not Bush. In the back of the room, Press
Secretary Ari Fleischer caught Bush's eye and held up a pad of paper for him to
see, with "DON'T SAY ANYTHING YET" written on it in big block letters.
[Washington Times, 10/7/02] Some person or people had overruled the security
who wanted Bush evacuated immediately, even as Vice President Cheney was
taken from his White House office to a safe location. Bush's security overruled
Bush on security matters later in the day on Air Force One, but who overruled
them that morning?

When Did Bush Leave the
Classroom?

Nearly every news account fails to
mention when Bush left the
classroom after being told America
was under attack. Three mention
9:12 a.m. [New York Times, 9/16/01
(B), Telegraph, 12/16/01, Daily Mail,
9/8/02] Remaining in the classroom
for approximately five to seven
minutes is inexcusable, but the
video of Bush in the classroom
suggests he stayed longer than
that. The video contains several
edits and ends before Bush leaves
the room, so it also doesn't tell us exactly how long he stayed. One newspaper
suggested he remained "for eight or nine minutes" - sometime between 9:13 and
9:16, since Card's arrival is uncertain. [Tampa Tribune, 9/1/02]

When Bush finally did leave, he didn't act like a man in a hurry. In fact, he was
described as "openly stretching out the moment." [Fighting Back: The War on
Terrorism - From Inside the Bush White House, by Bill Sammon, 10/02, p. 89]
When the lesson was over, Bush said to the children: "Hoo! These are great
readers. Very impressive! Thank you all so much for showing me your reading
skills. I bet they practice too. Don't you? Reading more than they watch TV?
Anybody do that? Read more than you watch TV? [Hands go up] Oh that's great!
Very good. Very important to practice! Thanks for having me. Very impressed."
[Transcribed from Booker video, Fighting Back: The War on Terrorism - From
Inside the Bush White House, by Bill Sammon, 10/02, pp. 89-90] Bush still
continued to talk, advising the children to stay in school and be good citizens.
[Tampa Tribune, 9/1/02, St. Petersburg Times, 9/8/02 (B)] One student asked
Bush a question, and he gave a quick response on his education policy. [New
York Post, 9/12/02]

The only source to describe what happened next is Fighting Back by Bill
Sammon. Publishers Weekly described Sammon's book as an "inside account of
the Bush administration's reaction to 9-11 [and] a breathless, highly
complimentary portrait of the president [showing] the great merit and
unwavering moral vision of his inner circle." [Publisher's Weekly, 10/15/02]
Sammon's conservative perspective makes his account of Bush's behavior at the
end of the photo-op all the more surprising. Bush is described as smiling and
chatting with the children "as if he didn't have a care in the world" and "in the
most relaxed manner imaginable." White House aide Gordon Johndroe, then came
in as he usually does at the end of press conferences, and said, "Thank you,
press. If you could step out the door we came in, please." A reporter then
asked, "Mr. President, are you aware of the reports of the plane crash in New
York? Is there anything...", But Bush interrupted, and no doubt recalling his order,
"DON'T SAY ANYTHING YET," Bush responded, "I'll talk about it later." But still the
president did not leave. "He stepped forward and shook hands with [classroom
teacher] Daniels, slipping his left hand behind her in another photo-op pose. He
was taking his good old time. ... Bush lingered until the press was gone."
[Fighting Back: The War on Terrorism - From Inside the Bush White House, by Bill
Sammon, 10/02, p. 90]

Think about that: rather than rush out of the room at the first chance, Bush
actually stayed until after all the dozens of reporters had left! Having just been
told of a Pearl Harbor-type attack on US soil, Bush was indeed "openly stretching
out the moment." But he still wasn't done. Bush then turned to principal
Tose-Rigell, who was waiting to take him to the library for his speech on
education. He explained to her about the terror attacks and why he had to leave.
[Fighting Back: The War on Terrorism - From Inside the Bush White House, by Bill
Sammon, 10/02, p. 90] Finally, he went to an empty classroom next door where
his
 
Psalms
Chapter 119
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1 Happy those whose way is blameless, who walk by the teaching of the LORD.
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Happy those who observe God's decrees, who seek the LORD with all their heart.
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They do no wrong; they walk in God's ways.
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You have given them the command to keep your precepts with care.
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May my ways be firm in the observance of your laws!
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Then I will not be ashamed to ponder all your commands.
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I will praise you with sincere heart as I study your just edicts.
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I will keep your laws; do not leave me all alone.
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How can the young walk without fault? Only by keeping your words.
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With all my heart I seek you; do not let me stray from your commands.
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In my heart I treasure your promise, that I may not sin against you.
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Blessed are you, O LORD; teach me your laws.
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With my lips I recite all the edicts you have spoken.
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I find joy in the way of your decrees more than in all riches.
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I will ponder your precepts and consider your paths.
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In your laws I take delight; I will never forget your word.
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Be kind to your servant that I may live, that I may keep your word.
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Open my eyes to see clearly the wonders of your teachings.
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2 I am a sojourner in the land; do not hide your commands from me.
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At all times my soul is stirred with longing for your edicts.
21
With a curse you rebuke the proud who stray from your commands.
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Free me from disgrace and contempt, for I observe your decrees.
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Though princes meet and talk against me, your servant studies your laws.
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Your decrees are my delight; they are my counselors.
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I lie prostrate in the dust; give me life in accord with your word.
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I disclosed my ways and you answered me; teach me your laws.
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Make me understand the way of your precepts; I will ponder your wondrous deeds.
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I weep in bitter pain; in accord with your word to strengthen me.
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Lead me from the way of deceit; favor me with your teaching.
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I cling to your decrees, LORD; do not let me come to shame.
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3 I will run the way of your commands, for you open my docile heart.
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LORD, teach me the way of your laws; I shall observe them with care.
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Give me insight to observe your teaching, to keep it with all my heart.
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Lead me in the path of your commands, for that is my delight.
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Direct my heart toward your decrees and away from unjust gain.
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Avert my eyes from what is worthless; by your way give me life.
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For your servant fulfill your promise made to those who fear you.
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Turn away from me the taunts I dread, for your edicts bring good.
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See how I long for your precepts; in your justice give me life.
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Let your love come to me, LORD, salvation in accord with your promise.
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Let me answer my taunters with a word, for I trust in your word.
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Do not take the word of truth from my mouth, for in your edicts is my hope.
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I will keep your teachings always, for all time and forever.
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I will walk freely in an open space because I cherish your precepts.
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I will speak openly of your decrees without fear even before kings.
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I delight in your commands, which I dearly love.
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4 I lift up my hands to your commands; I study your laws, which I love.
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Remember your word to your servant by which you give me hope.
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This is my comfort in affliction, your promise that gives me life.
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Though the arrogant utterly scorn me, I do not turn from your teaching.
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When I recite your edicts of old I am comforted, LORD.
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Rage seizes me because of the wicked; they forsake your teaching.
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Your laws become my songs wherever I make my home.
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Even at night I remember your name in observance of your teaching, LORD.
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This is my good fortune, for I have observed your precepts.
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My portion is the LORD; I promise to keep your words.
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I entreat you with all my heart: have mercy on me in accord with your promise.
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I have examined my ways and turned my steps to your decrees.
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I am prompt, I do not hesitate in keeping your commands.
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Though the snares of the wicked surround me, your teaching I do not forget.
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At midnight I rise to praise you because your edicts are just.
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I am the friend of all who fear you, of all who keep your precepts.
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The earth, LORD, is filled with your love; teach me your laws.
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You have treated your servant well, according to your word, O LORD.
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Teach me wisdom and knowledge, for in your commands I trust.
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Before I was afflicted I went astray, but now I hold to your promise.
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You are good and do what is good; teach me your laws.
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The arrogant smear me with lies, but I observe your precepts with all my heart.
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Their hearts are gross and fat; as for me, your teaching is my delight.
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It was good for me to be afflicted, in order to learn your laws.
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Teaching from your lips is more precious to me than heaps of silver and gold.
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Your hands made me and fashioned me; give me insight to learn your commands.
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Those who fear you rejoice to see me, because I hope in your word.
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I know, LORD, that your edicts are just; though you afflict me, you are faithful.
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May your love comfort me in accord with your promise to your servant.
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Show me compassion that I may live, for your teaching is my delight.
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Shame the proud for oppressing me unjustly, that I may study your precepts.
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Let those who fear you turn to me, those who acknowledge your decrees.
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May I be wholehearted toward your laws, that I may not be put to shame.
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My soul longs for your salvation; I put my hope in your word.
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My eyes long to see your promise. When will you comfort me?
83
I am like a wineskin shriveled by smoke, but I have not forgotten your laws.
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How long can your servant survive? When will your edict doom my foes?
85
The arrogant have dug pits for me; defying your teaching.
86
All your commands are steadfast. Help me! I am pursued without cause.
87
They have almost ended my life on earth, but I do not forsake your precepts.
88
In your kindness give me life, to keep the decrees you have spoken.
89
5 Your word, LORD, stands forever; it is firm as the heavens.
90
Through all generations your truth endures; fixed to stand firm like the earth.
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By your edicts they stand firm to this day, for all things are your servants.
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Had your teaching not been my delight, I would have perished in my affliction.
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I will never forget your precepts; through them you give me life.
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I am yours; save me, for I cherish your precepts.
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The wicked hope to destroy me, but I pay heed to your decrees.
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I have seen the limits of all perfection, but your command is without bounds.
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How I love your teaching, Lord! I study it all day long.
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Your command makes me wiser than my foes, for it is always with me.
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I have more understanding than all my teachers, because I ponder your decrees.
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I have more insight than my elders, because I observe your precepts.
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I keep my steps from every evil path, that I may obey your word.
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From your edicts I do not turn, for you have taught them to me.
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How sweet to my tongue is your promise, sweeter than honey to my mouth!
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Through your precepts I gain insight; therefore I hate all false ways.
105
Your word is a lamp for my feet, a light for my path.
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I make a solemn vow to keep your just edicts.
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I am very much afflicted, LORD; give me life in accord with your word.
108
Accept my freely offered praise; LORD, teach me your decrees.
109
My life is always at risk, but I do not forget your teaching.
110
The wicked have set snares for me, but from your precepts I do not stray.
111
Your decrees are my heritage forever; they are the joy of my heart.
112
My heart is set on fulfilling your laws; they are my reward forever.
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I hate every hypocrite; your teaching I love.
114
You are my refuge and shield; in your word I hope.
115
Depart from me, you wicked, that I may observe the commands of my God.
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Sustain me by your promise that I may live; do not disappoint me in my hope.
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Strengthen me that I may be safe, ever to contemplate your laws.
118
You reject all who stray from your laws, for vain is their deceit.
119
Like dross you regard all the wicked on earth; therefore I love your decrees.
120
My flesh shudders with dread of you; I hold your edicts in awe.
121
I have fulfilled your just edict; do not abandon me to my oppressors.
122
Guarantee your servant's welfare; do not let the arrogant oppress me.
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My eyes long to see your salvation and the justice of your promise.
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Act with kindness toward your servant; teach me your laws.
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I am your servant; give me discernment that I may know your decrees.
126
It is time for the LORD to act; they have disobeyed your teaching.
127
Truly I love your commands more than the finest gold.
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Thus I follow all your precepts; every wrong way I hate.
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Wonderful are your decrees; therefore I observe them.
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The revelation of your words sheds light, gives understanding to the simple.
131
I sigh with open mouth, yearning for your commands.
132
Turn to me and be gracious, your edict for lovers of your name.
133
Steady my feet in accord with your promise; do not let iniquity lead me.
134
Free me from human oppression, that I may keep your precepts.
135
Let your face shine upon your servant; teach me your laws.
136
My eyes shed streams of tears because your teaching is not followed.
137
You are righteous, LORD, and just are your edicts.
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You have issued your decrees in justice and in surpassing faithfulness.
139
I am consumed with rage, because my foes forget your words.
140
Your servant loves your promise; it has been proved by fire.
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Though belittled and despised, I do not forget your precepts.
142
Your justice is forever right, your teaching forever true.
143
Though distress and anguish come upon me, your commands are my delight.
144
Your decrees are forever just; give me discernment that I may live.
145
I call with all my heart, O LORD; answer me that I may observe your laws.
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I call to you to save me that I may keep your decrees.
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I rise before dawn and cry out; I put my hope in your words.
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My eyes greet the night watches as I meditate on your promise.
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Hear my voice in your love, O LORD; by your edict give me life.
150
Malicious persecutors draw near me; they are far from your teaching.
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You are near, O LORD; reliable are all your commands.
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Long have I known from your decrees that you have established them forever.
153
Look at my affliction and rescue me, for I have not forgotten your teaching.
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Take up my cause and redeem me; for the sake of your promise give me life.
155
Salvation is far from sinners because they do not cherish your laws.
156
Your compassion is great, O LORD; in accord with your edicts give me life.
157
Though my persecutors and foes are many I do not turn from your decrees.
158
I view the faithless with loathing, because they do not heed your promise.
159
See how I love your precepts, LORD; in your kindness give me life.
160
Your every word is enduring; all your just edicts are forever.
161
Princes persecute me without reason, but my heart reveres only your word.
162
I rejoice at your promise, as one who has found rich spoil.
163
Falsehood I hate and abhor; your teaching I love.
164
Seven times a day I praise you because your edicts are just.
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Lovers of your teaching have much peace; for them there is no stumbling block.
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I look for your salvation, LORD, and I fulfill your commands.
167
I observe your decrees; I love them very much.
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I observe your precepts and decrees; all my ways are before you.
169
Let my cry come before you, LORD; in keeping with your word give me discernment.
170
Let my prayer come before you; rescue me according to your promise.
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May my lips pour forth your praise, because you teach me your laws.
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May my tongue sing of your promise, for all your commands are just.
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Keep your hand ready to help me, for I have chosen your precepts.
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I long for your salvation, LORD; your teaching is my delight.
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Let me live to praise you; may your edicts give me help.
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I have wandered like a lost sheep; seek out your servant, for I do not forget your commands.
 
Originally posted by Truth
interesting, well the Dis has it's limits.
click the link to read the rest.

Posted like only a true democrat could! It be interested to read an account of what was done right because based on what you are quoting, our leadership is a bunch of bumbling idiots.

Maybe I'm just an optimist. Who knows.
 

Ha ha ha Ha ha ha (I had to throw in 3 extra ha's for this one)this is the funniest thing I have ever read on the DIS ..Thank you, Thank you, Thank You..I almost went in my pants…

Thanks for supplying the url of your “important research group”.
In it the author of the 9/11 timeline says this about his “sources”:

“Of course, a mainstream source DOESN’T guarantee the story will be ALL or partly TRUE. Everyone these days knows how politicians and others “spin” events, and there can be many accidental errors too. BUT with so many entries, even though there may be RED HERRINGS, there still should be enough material to allow you to see overall patterns. Click on any of the links to read the source articles to JUDGE for yourself and learn more. I have tried to include direct links to the original websites wherever I can but oftentimes this isn't possible, since webpage addresses frequently change or expire, and some have never been on the web in the first place.”


He asks people to send in information and timelines that they have uncovered..I am sending in my LIFE 9/11 timeline ..what are the chances that he will publish it…hmmm?

And those sources that he uses are great..Check out Daniel Hopsicker’s web site at :

madcowprod


Ladies and gentleman for just $69.65 you too can own your very own copies of the following 5 that’s right 5 Hopsickers classic DVD’s…

-Mohamed Atta and the Venice Flying Cirus - Three of the four terrorist pilots learned to fly in tiny Venice, Florida, a sleepy retirement community with the second oldest population of any city in the entire United States... They attended flight schools owned by two Dutch nationals, one of whom has Mob ties... Did 19 Arab terrorists from desert Kingdoms roam around in Florida as if they'd been listening to Tom Petty albums all their lives all by themselves? Or were they being trained here in a still-secret covert intelligence operation that somehow went horribly wrong?

-The Big Fix – 2000 - Who own America’s elections? Did Mobsters decide the fate of the election in Florida, in a contest that had nothing to do with counting hanging chad? While the nation’s eyes were riveted on punch cards being held up to the light, charges a new documentary, Mob-controlled companies that count America’s vote were slipping through the back door and stealing the election.

- The Secret Heartbeat of America- The CIA & Drugs - In August 1987, two Arkansas high school seniors were brutally murdered, their bodies dismemebered by a speeding train. The evidence leads to a massive CIA drug and weapons smuggling operation, and raises stunning questions about CIA and US government involvement in drug and arms trafficking, world-wide.

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Let me get back in my hoodin character for my final reply..

Yo truth..tanks for da link ta dat Popsickle guy…I can’t wait ta get my copy a Da Big Fix – 2000 – I tink I no sum a da hood’s who pulled it off….good old Danny says dat dey are from New Jersey…ha ha ha

"Top executives of the election companies responsible for the Florida Vote Snafu have been convicted of multiple election-rigging felonies, the show charges, and “look more like extras on the TV series The Sopranos than people we’ve entrusted with the sacred American right to vote,” snorts producer Daniel Hopsicker. “The big question, of course, is, ‘what happened in Florida? We found the answer in NEW JERSEY.”

Youz kill me..you are more fun den Zurgie baby!
 
Watt da heck was dat. I goes ona little unplanned vacating over a complete misunderstanden an' da social club gets infested with da born again trypes, youz knws dat one watt tink politicis is a religion unless it is about religion den dey got no religion. god hlep us.

Watta dey tryen ta do? Dere aint no money ta be made in da florida politicing. Well I ded sell a box or tree o' dem defective punch out da chad voting cards but inly ta da guy in dade county.

Hey watt youz doin' talken' bout da mob ties? Dem is special go ta da furneral ties (da only time I wearz da tie is ta da viewen) any wayz dem is like da ivy leage old school ties you is talken bout dere right?

Da tooth guy dat give me a pain in da head you knows, I call it a tooth ache, i gett it from readen all dat stuff thinken dere may be a joke in dere someplace, youz know like a rubba chiocken 'r some ting.

Nope da guy acutally buys all dat stuff, good tinken sellen dem old Ronco record collections ta da guy der Charlie dat was funny dat was and fer 69.65 dat was a good price dat was.
 
So se got us 9 pages of stuff here about nothing like dat Signfeild guy's TV show, dat was a funny TV show dat was. Dis ya see da one where dey was in da parken gradge all da time. Dat was funny funny, I hadda get new pants. Anyway da best part is dat dere garadge is were I use ta leave da cars wid da guys who was real late on da payments,

yous knows in da trunk

So one day I was droppen off da guy an der is all dis filmen crew stuff goin on in dere. First I was a little worried cause of da guy in da trunk you knows, but den some wet behinda da ear kid ask me if a gotta union card ta be dere.

Do I gotta card kiddie I says o' course I gotta card, Jimmy Hoffa his self signed it, just before he got in da trunk yous know watt i means.

So i push da little twerp aside and I goes on da duty of checked fer da union cards and worken da catering consession.

It was a good gig.

Anyways dat is why I like dat show.
 
zurg I have never seen anyone try so hard to use da and dat so much in almost every sentence lol! I am full blooded Yooper and I never used it so much lol! Although I knew lots of people that came close lol!

just a cute cut and paste from yooper site



You Might be a Yooper if...
Your wife's Lady Remington is a 30-06...
Your snowmobile costs more than your kid's college education...
Your wife's night gown says Fred Bear Archery...
A trip to the islands means Mackinac and Bois Blanc...
You're on a first name basis with the clerk at the Michigan State Unemployment Office...
You install your snow tires in early September...
You think working at McDonalds' means making the big bucks...
Your best clothes are reversible; Blaze Orange to Camouflage...
Going south for the winter means going to Escanaba...
You think that Iron Mountain is a prime example of a big city in urban decay...
You think the expression "to open a can of worms" means " to go fishing"...
You think that a Big Mac and a shake refers to the Bridge on a windy day...
People in Wisconsin act superior to you...
Your kid "aced" the 3rd grade...on his 9th try...
A new car means a 1972 AMC Gremlin...
Being a "Red Wing fan" means you like their new line of hiking boots...
You watched the "Ricki Lake Show" because you thought it was a show about fishing...
You answer the question "How many UP'ers does it take to change a light bulb?" with "None, we don't have electricity"...
You consider Velcro to be high tech...
You think that "The Straits of Mackinac" refers to the heterosexual population on the island...
You think that the Mackinac ferry refers to, well, you know...
You view working the drive-through window as an important career advancement...
 
Dat dere is a funny site dat is.

Youz need da mobster spellen book da sound dat other folks wrotes wid da "th" da wise guys like Charlie'n me use da "d" - is is da code dat da FED have a hard time readen. Some woids like da da is like da the dat da other foks uses.

Here's a litt'l traslate fer youz 'cause seem nice and yous didn't talk 'bout no tooth.

Yous sayed
zurg I have never seen anyone try so hard to use da and dat so much in almost every sentence lol! I am full blooded Yooper and I never used it so much lol! Although I knew lots of people that came close lol!

Da wise guy say it like dis here:
You Zurg! Watt youz doin? I aint never seen nobody dat speaks so good use'n da da and da dat like dat. I almost understands every sentence - funny huh? I growed up in in da good part a town and aint heared such good speaken since I was setten on da stoop, it remindes me a home, where my maw, gawd bless 'er, raised me. Funny how I aint heared it so much any more, dere is still a few dat speaks it but not like da good ol' days.


Now I wouldn't a told youz dat but dat site was funny, Charlie will pee his pants he will.

QUOTE]Your wife's Lady Remington is a 30-06...[/QUOTE]
Da dere is a good one.
 
Subject: top 15 country songs.....

15. If I Can't Be Number One In Your Life, Then Number Two On You
14. If The Phone Don't Ring, You'll Know It's Me
13. How Can I Miss You If You Won't Go Away?
12. I Liked You Better Before I Got to Know You So Well
11. I Still Miss You Baby, But My Aim's Gettin' Better
10. I Wouldn't Take Her To A Dog Fight 'Cause I'm Afraid She'd Win
9. I'll Marry You Tomorrow But Let's Honeymoon Tonight
8. I'm So Miserable Without You It's Like Having You Here
7. If I Had Shot You When I Wanted To, I'd Be Out Of Prison By Now
6. My Wife Ran Off With My Best Friend And I Sure Do Miss Him
5. She Got The Ring And I Got The Finger
4. You're The Reason Our Kids Are So Ugly
3. Her Teeth Was Stained But Her Heart Was Pure
2. She's Looking Better After Every Beer
1. I Haven't Gone To Bed With Any Ugly Women, but I've Sure As Hell Woke
Up With A Few.
 
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Yo Charlie,

I hears da youz was in da south in florida des last few days and den I hears on da news dat da state gets all ripped dis Charlie.

Watta youz tinkin? So da guys is a little behind in the vig?

Youz musta had a a lotta back payments due is all I can say.
 
hey looky here..I likes da face lift..real nice ..the doc did a good job..I hopes it wasn't two bloody..I fur one don't like da gory stuff..never did...youz wood never reconize da old look. (keep dem feds tinking...)
 
Ok..... sorry to admit it but I cannot make my signature contain the ticker I made at Tickerfactory. Can someone help me out???
 


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