Really cheeky question re child age day passes

[poppyolivia]

To be honest I think adult prices should kick in when they are an adult...I would say 16 or 18.....

its not like your 11-12 year old can go out drinking or get married..so how come travel agents are saying they are adults...its all a big con....

same goes for Jimmy Chungs!!

Just thought...we are going to Edinburgh for Easter and there is a seabird place we are going to and under 4s get in free..its Joshuas 4th birthday on the 1st of April (poor kid haha!) so we are going the day before...only because if asked I know he will say he is 4!!!lol....the things I do to save about a fiver!!!haha!!!!!...or actually thinking of it it might be the butterfly place....I got tesco vouchers so being even tighter!!!..mmmmm better check that out hehe!!

 

[id@53]

I'm not involved in the travel industry but I think it's a little unfair to say that

travel agents are saying they are adults...its all a big con....

It's the service providers, the airlines (see my previous post), hotels and theme parks that set the policies. As I said earlier, the mistake that they're making is using the term Adult but they're not breaking any laws. The Department for Business Enterprise & Regulatory Reform says the following on their website (http://www.berr.gov.uk/......) -

A child paying adult prices is a matter for the commercial policy of the business and is an area we are unable to offer any advice or assistance in.

 

[foxymum]

i agree that children being charged at adult prices is awful.
we are going to DLP soon & my 12 yr old daughter is going at an adult price, on the Eurostar though she was charged as a Youth whichi was impressed by.

we went to Turkey last june when our son was 22 mths so he cost £36 to travel as an infant, we have looked to go again this june & it will cost us another £800 or so beacause he now gets a seat on the plane (which he prob wouldnt want anyway, prefer to sit on our lap) & they have tried to say we now have to have 2 rooms as we have 3 children alltogether! he would as last year sleep in a travel cot anyway! he is still in a cot at home.
i think its a joke really.
it is really difficult for a family of 5 to find a decent holiday where we can all sleep in the room together!

 

[poppyolivia]

i agree that children being charged at adult prices is awful.
we are going to DLP soon & my 12 yr old daughter is going at an adult price, on the Eurostar though she was charged as a Youth whichi was impressed by.

we went to Turkey last june when our son was 22 mths so he cost £36 to travel as an infant, we have looked to go again this june & it will cost us another £800 or so beacause he now gets a seat on the plane (which he prob wouldnt want anyway, prefer to sit on our lap) & they have tried to say we now have to have 2 rooms as we have 3 children alltogether! he would as last year sleep in a travel cot anyway! he is still in a cot at home.
i think its a joke really.
it is really difficult for a family of 5 to find a decent holiday where we can all sleep in the room together!

yeah agree with the 5 of a family thing...my cousin has 3 kids and has to book the 2nd room.....her boy is 3...so for a 3 year old its costing anything from £500 plus!!!

id@53... if they did have the ages at different prices that would be ok but the adult price should ONLY kick in on the 18+ catagory.....hence why I said its a bit of a con an 11 year old having to pay the highest price! But hey its only my opinion!

 

[Lisa_C]

Yeah this thread is harsh, but its also good to see so many honest people around and I would say that if I ever lost my purse I would hope one of them would find it, as I know it would be handed in still full of all my mega bucks I had saved from ripping disney off by buying a child ticket for my just 12yr old.

This made me chuckle as on the same day as our "illegal entry" I did actually leave my purse in the store....with a CM running after me to give it back. Mega bucks still intact

 

[mommy2ash]

Yeah this thread is harsh, but its also good to see so many honest people around and I would say that if I ever lost my purse I would hope one of them would find it, as I know it would be handed in still full of all my mega bucks I had saved from ripping disney off by buying a child ticket for my just 12yr old.

yes i would say i am an honest person. but that is because i dont really believe that any good comes from being dishonest. i believe it will just come back on you in the end, something i get from my mother. i would be one of those people who would hand back a purse without even looking in it. something i have done in the past. im so honest i wont even book the 40 percent offer from ireland as i just dont think its right, i know something would go wrong if it did. that might make me sound crazy as a loon but its just my way of thinking

 

[jellybabie68]

yes i would say i am an honest person. but that is because i dont really believe that any good comes from being dishonest. i believe it will just come back on you in the end, something i get from my mother. i would be one of those people who would hand back a purse without even looking in it. something i have done in the past. im so honest i wont even book the 40 percent offer from ireland as i just dont think its right, i know something would go wrong if it did. that might make me sound crazy as a loon but its just my way of thinking

We all entitled to have our opinions, I just feel we get ripped off having 3 kids esp when they turn 12. Its an arguement that can go on forever, I dont see you as a crazy loon, I am normally a very honest person, but with money not flowing as easy as it used to and my daughter trying to decide on who she would invite to spend the day at disney, I was thinking naughty lol.

Lisa C, how spooky I put that lol.

Foxymum, thats exactly what I have been saying, not enough family rooms sleeping 5 around, I ended up renting a lovely 3 bedroom house in Fueterventura last year and getting flights seperate as it worked out so much cheaper, I also dont want to split my family into two rooms, not all have interconnecting doors.

 

[id@53]

...but the adult price should ONLY kick in on the 18+ catagory....

Would that also be the case for Half Board Meal Plans and the All You Can Eat Buffets? There are 15 and 16 y.o. boys in my sons rugby club who eat more than I do and my appetite couldn't be classed as small! I know that if I was running a restaurant I wouldn't be very happy.

We are never all going to be happy with commercial decisions taken by any organisation. Sticking with DLRP as an example, and correct me if I'm wrong, but at present DLRP are offering UK residents up to 40% off across all the hotels (I know, T&C's apply). In Ireland we're only being offered €99 per adult per night (kids under 7 stay and play free). This price is per night, based on a 3 night / 4 day stay at Disney's Hotel Sequoia Lodge, for 2 adults and 2 children under 7 sharing a standard room - approx. 25% off. We're all (regardless of if we like it or not but thats possibly for another thread!) EU citizens, we're all over 18+ so why should I be treated differently to someone who lives in the UK. The reason is because it is a commercial policy of the business not to offer the same levels of discount to their Irish customers and we as consumers are aware of their policy in advance of making a booking or buying a service and if we're not happy with the policy then we have the choice not to complete the transaction.

 

[A Small World]

I assume one of the reasons that Disney (and other theme parks/attractions) charge 12 yr olds as adults is that they are able to do every ride if they want to - they are tall enough. So I suppose we should be grateful that they dont charge this adult rate earlier as most rides could probably be done by most 9 year olds if they chose to do them.

 

[HolidayLover]

I definitely think there should be a in between category like teen prices or something as I dont agree with 12 year olds being charged higher prices. I agree over the rooms to, there was just us two kids in our house but I know from family with 3 kids that is so much more expensive having to book suites or even 2 rooms. Disney is a family place they really should have different rooms. Am I correct the Cheyenne is the only one with bunk beds? Not to fair as Id have hated to share a bed with my bro!

 

[id@53]

Disney is a family place.....

You're quite right, but it is also a commercial organisation that for years struggled to break even and as a result it sits on a mountain of debt that someone has to pay.

 

[Disneyadore]

I am thinking of taking my 12yr old daughter and 2 of her friends on a day trip in a couple of weeks time as her birthday treat. I can get a good price on the Eurostar and I notice that Ledger are doing half price admission tickets, now from what I remember no one checks the tickets and the kids just put them in the turnstiles to go through. So my really naughty cheeky question is, should I just buy 1 adult and 3 kids hopper tickets (age 3-11) and save myself £36 or be honest? come one what would you do

If money is a problem why you organize such an expensive trip?

No offending but if I had to bent the rules for a children's party I would look for another kind of party.

 

[tinks_1989]

Wow it's harsh in this thread!!

I couldnt agree more I think some people have responded VERY harsh

If you pay for an adult you should expect to be treated as an adult

If Disney wont let you benefit adult experiences they should

have child , Teenage or even student price then adult, senior

In WDW you are classed as an adult at 10 in its disgusting you arent an adult till 21 there


But I totally agree some of the answers have been disgusting on here.

Im sure every one does some thing some time in there live to save money
(i still pay student when I go to the cinema its £2.40 cheaper)

 

[id@53]

If you pay for an adult you should expect to be treated as an adult. If Disney wont let you benefit adult experiences they should have child , Teenage or even student price then adult, senior

Where or when exactly do disney differentiate in their treatment of adults and those aged 12 or over who have paid the same entrance fee? Provided you are above a certain height (and don't have any health issues) they don't restrict access to attractions and they'll serve the same food at the same price to a 10 y.o. and a 40 y.o. (I know because my daughter is 10 and I'm 40). Obviously they won't sell/serve alcohol because that would be breaking the law, but apart from that can't see where they treat a 12 y.o. differently to a 20 or 30 or 40 y.o.

 

[cookie334]

I couldnt agree more I think some people have responded VERY harsh

If you pay for an adult you should expect to be treated as an adult

If Disney wont let you benefit adult experiences they should

have child , Teenage or even student price then adult, senior

In WDW you are classed as an adult at 10 in its disgusting you arent an adult till 21 there


But I totally agree some of the answers have been disgusting on here.

Im sure every one does some thing some time in there live to save money
(i still pay student when I go to the cinema its £2.40 cheaper)

I agree, I don't really think there was a need to jump on op for it. Fair enough many people may not do it, but I'm sure everyone will do something similar at some point. I'm sure Disney will expect it, just as they expect people to take the odd roll or two from breakfast and in all honesty how many people here haven't done that at some time? Is it really THAT different.

If you think you can get away with it and not feel too guilty then why not. I know I wouldn't as I wouldn't be able to relax, but oh wouldn't think twice. I don't think any less of him for it though.

 

[Squizzlet]

Some people do seem to be being a bit 'forceful' in their replies. Personally, (a bit late I know) but I say just go with your conscience. If you're confident there won't be much of a problem, then go ahead with the 1 adult 3 child idea. Some people may think it's unreasonable, but you could ask your daughter (depending on circumstances, pocket money etc...) to contribute a little (a few pounds) towards the trip, if you feel that the cost was a bit high. It might give her a good idea of the value of money etc...
Like I said, it's a personal choice, on one hand saving some money and on the other hand risking having to pay much more if you get 'caught'.
Swings and roundabouts.

 

[Disneyadore]

I think it all boils down the the point that all " little cheats and bending rules" makes the price go up for all of us.

It's the same like taking something from a supermarket and don't pay for it ore nicer said "forget to pay for it". The store will count up the loss at the end of the year and will raise all the prices to make even.

At the end we are all losers from this kind of systems.

 

[jellybabie68]

So now I am a theif!!!!!

I wanted to take my 12yr old daughter to disneyland to celebrate her birthday with a couple of friends, I have not got an endless pot of money as we already have other family trips this year. I was looking to save a little bit of money - wrong maybe, by buying 3 childrens tickets for 3 JUST 12 yr olds (two within a month of going). I wanted to add that these friends I wanted to take, have never been to Disney before and probably will never ever get the chance to go due to family situations, call me a thief I dont care.

It does not matter now as realised that my daughters friends didnt have passports anyway and my daughter has decided on Quasar now, with us going again later in the year on a coach trip with tickets included.

 

[Cyrano]

Folks remember to play nice. There are a number of subjects that seem to polarise opinion. The issue of child and adult prices is one of them.

If posters ask for an opinion it is right that some will give the answer they want to hear and similarly some will have an opinion that they disagree with.
There is nothing wrong with that. After all this is a discussion forum

But please do not put words in people's mouths nor over-react

Sometimes the rule of of ignoring if you disagree is good advice

 

[HowGrumpy]

A couple of observations, as we have been planning another European trip (BTW id@53, I like your avatar!--I had mine 1st though):

On rules:
--When my child was 4 & wanted to ride Indiana Jones in DL Anaheim, she wore sandals with 1½" heels so she would pass the heighth test. She survived the ride & didn't fall out of the car or come out from under the seat belt.

--DLRP-DLP is the only Disney park IN THE WORLD (I've been to them all) where we had trouble using a Fastpass on the day of issue after the printed time window (e.g. 10:34 to 11:33). ALL the other parks let you use them from the beginning time until park closing that day.

On cost:
--In the States, you rent hotel rooms by the night & almost all rooms have 2 double beds--usually 2 queen-sized. So having to pay extra to share with our child doesn't even come into question. Now, trying to book a room for 3 in London or Paris is major chore by comparison. …And some hotels allow a child up to 11 to share and some allow up to 16…

--On our 1st Europe trip, we flew in to Heathrow, took Eurostar, walked a day through Paris & did a day at DLRP-DLP. The point is, when I booked Eurostar, I got 3 different prices (even after exchange) on the 'net if I ordered in French, on the US site, or the UK site. I used the French site because it was the least.

Sorry for rambling on, but while being responsible parents we can still take best advantage of cost-saving opportunities if we look for them.

[I actually was looking for tips on a multi-country prepaid SIM for my mobile, but that's another thread…]

I hope all of you enjoy your next trips to wherever you're headed!