Read something about US/IOA parks and now I'm worried about my kids

It's very obvious to me that two people who have responded to this post didn't really read my original post (I put those two people's responses in quotes). If you would care to actually read my post you will see that I NEVER said I was against drinking, I just said that I don't drink. I did say I can't stand obnoxious drunks, but then again I can't stand obnoxious people, drunk or not.

If you care to really read my OP, you will even see that I said that the parks can't control the way people talk and dress, or even act. My main concern actually was that the parks weren't playing sexually explicit songs all over the parks all day and that my kids wouldn't have to hear the *F* and *GD* words constantly, yes, I'm sure they will hear it a few times, my son and I just look at each other and roll our eyes, he is a good kid! :thumbsup2 Sorry, if I don't want a 13, 11 and 9 yr old to hear that kind of music and language all day, thankfully some very nice people on this board has stated this isn't the case.

Also, as I've stated on this thread about three or four times already I did think that the person who made that post was way over dramatizing things, but I just wanted to check it out. I asked a simple question and MOST of you have been very helpful and I thank those posters! :thumbsup2

Jewell,

We go to Universal often, usually multiple times a year, and never stay less than 8 nights - usually 10. We have been doing Universal pretty much exclusively for the last 5 years. My youngest is now 10. We will hop over to WDW for a day or two, but my kids prefer Universal so the majority of our vacations are in Universal.

While I consider myself pretty liberal I also wouldn't want my kids to be subjected to raunchy music the entire time we visited a place. If I didn't think it was an appropriate environment for my children, we wouldn't be there.

I also consider myself a very detail oriented person. Because we usually stay for more than a few days, we love to just stop and smell the roses. We take our time and take in all the delicious details that Universal has hidden. We wander through New York and look in all the windows, etc.

So, with all that attention to detail I can honestly say that I cannot even remember music outside of MIB, let alone raunchy music. Not denying it is there, but there is so much else to overwhelm all the other senses that music is the last thing a lot of people pay attention to. It is mostly just background noise. If you do happen to catch a phrase, it will be very, very easy to redirect your children.

Also, remember that the OP in the other thread did have some misinformation that was easily proven wrong. She said that the Horror Makeup Show talked about pubic hair when they really talked about back hair. So, take her information about lyrics with a grain of salt too. Her memory of what she heard was apparently affected by her disappointment in not being at Disney.

As for drinking, I disagree with Peter Pirate. I see way more drinking in Epcot than I do in either of the Universal parks. You may see somebody walking around with a beer but I have not seen the level of intoxication I have seen at Epcot. Many people go to World Showcase with the intention of "Drinking Around The World." I have seen plenty of very tipsy people "Drinking Around The World." For the most part, people are grabbing a beer in Universal for a refreshment, not a drinking game.

As for the dress, you are going to see lots of bikini tops - no different than at Disney. In IOA, there are lots of water rides, so you will see lots of bathing suits. You will see the appropriately dressed and the skimpily dressed. You are going to see plain t-shirts and raunchy t-shirts. You are going to see the pooh sized muffin tops and the skinny midriffs with belly button piercings. You are going to see the clean shaven and the bearded. You are going to see the tattooed and the non-tattooed. You are going to see oversized "girls" loose and swaying and you are going to see buttoned up "girls." However, I have seen all this at Disney too. You put that many people in one place and you are going to have a myriad of what people think are appropriate, funny or people that like to shock. If I went to WDW - I would see the same if I cared to look.

As for the swearing - that is not crowd dependent, that is people dependent. You may get unlucky and get behind a person swearing, yelling at their kid, etc. But go on that other thread and click on that 35 page thread of what is the worst they have seen at Disney, and you will see that all this has also happened at Disney. Universal and Disney cannot give people foul language tests before they come in. I have been behind foul-mouthed people in line at Disney, Universal and Costco. It is just luck of the draw if you are unfortunate enough to run into rude people.

However, I do agree that the parks are different with different feels. Universal does have an edgier, more hip feel. Which is what our family prefers. Since I have two boys and an almost adult daughter, the sweetness of the princesses is just not their style. Don't expect the sugary, fluffiness, sweetness of Disney - otherwise you will be disappointed. And I would be disappointed if they were boringly similar. Two different environments, two magnificent experiences. However, just because it is edgier, does not mean it is not family friendly or geared for teens. My youngest started preferring Universal just because it was so family friendly with all the play areas. At 5, he could spend hours and hours in both Camp Jurassic and Curious George. What more fun to a 5 year old boy than tree forts, rope bridges and water guns?

I wouldn't worry too much. You will see a difference in the feel of the parks, but never one that crosses any kind of line to put it out of the family friendly park. In fact, I find Universal more "family" friendly because there is something for all of us. There are areas completely geared to kids like Fieval's playland, Woody's Coaster, Barney, Curious George, and then there are areas that teens and adults can enjoy.

I read a review a long time ago that questioned whether teens were not considered part of a family anymore. The review questioned why to be family friendly a park had to cater to the under 10 set and that is all. I love Universal because I have a 10 year old and two teens. Universal is the complete "family" friendly park for us.
 
My family go to Orlando every summer for 2 weeks and buy the 2 week pass to UO and IOA (this adds up to alot of trips to the parks!!) and I've never heard the music in the parks. I'm too busy having fun to listen to lyrics in the background music. I'm sure you'll have fun and, like you said, UO can't be held responsible for their customers swearing or clothes so if you do hear anything inappropriate then don't fret and have fun. After all, hearing innapropriate things in UO has got to be better than hearing them in everyday life (as you do). Like you said...your son is a good kid. Have a fab time and I want to read a trip report!!
 
We're not so different goofy! I agree that Epcot is bad with regard to drinking and behavior (I stated that) but compared to the other Disney Parks Universal is much worse and I'm including City Walk as well (for reference) but like you stated it's about demographics. Universal attracks a different, more likely to party crowd than the average WDW family type guest but yes there are always exceptions.

With regard to the dress, the bikini tops, etc. are far more rare at WDW than Universal, IMO. Again it's just the crowd base.

I love Universal but IMO you are more apt to see or hear things of a 'colorful nature', shall we say, than at Disney and this IS part of the draw, I think.
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As a mom of a teenage son & an 11 year old daughter.I can honestly say if you go looking for the good,the bad,& the ugly.You will find it anywhere in this world!We are so busy having fun talking amongst ourselves that NO we do not even notice the music being played.As for the inappropriate dressed, my teenage son laughs at the girls being dressed like that.He thinks they are "gross" and "ugly".It is not appealing to him in the least bit.Yes you will see a little bit of everything at Universal but I can honestly say I have witnessed worse at Disney.I have seen them escort a man out for being intoxicated at Disney.I dont get why they keep serving these folks.Honestly to me Universal is full of laid back fun loving sense of humor folks.Maybe its just me but I love the folks at Universal,very calm laid back "older" folks.
Please dont worry about the music or dress code.You guys will have a blast.
Also dont go in & listening for inappropriateness if you know what I mean.
I mean if you stop & actually listen all day to the music being played im sure you are going to hear one of the "naughty" songs being played.If you walk around & look for girls showing there "chi-chis" im sure you will see it.Just go in & enjoy your kids,just enjoy all the beauty at the parks & the hotels!!!

Have a great trip & try not to stress out too much over other peoples opinions
just go & form your own opinion!!
 

We too have been to UO & WDW many times. I just don't get why people think the patrons to the parks are somehow different. I really wish none of the parks (except the water parks obviously) allowed bikini tops. I think the official stance is they're not appropriate attire, but it's not enforced. That is the situation at all the parks. I've seen just as many at WDW as at UO. I've seen plenty of women in unbelieveably high heels :confused3 & too short shorts in all parks as well. That actually seems to be more prevalent in the WDW parks, because of the tour groups. For the most park, the people you see at WDW are pretty much the same as what you'll see at UO. Despite what many believe, people don't change their language patterns based on the park they're in either. :rolleyes1 With FOTL at UO, we don't spend enough time around anyone to really notice what they're wearing, doing, or saying. I'll be the 1st to admit that I'm probably the least observant person on the planet though. I also haven't noticed a lot of people walking around carrying alcohol, & I had no idea they played music in the parks (outside of POE) loud enough for anyone to hear. :blush: So, I suppose it could depend on how observant you are. If you go to the parks to have fun with your family, & are only concerned with them & how much fun they're having, you'll have a great time. I don't think you have anything to worry about. :)
 
Wow...I can't believe so many are oblivious to the different demographic of WDW and USO, it is so, so, so obvious. This isn't to say that rude, crude and socially unacceptable folks don't patronize both (all) parks, they do. But Universal, for whatever reason, has more younger folks, more thrill seekers due to the two big coasters and more locals, particularily kids who are more apt to be louder and perhaps obnoxious vs. the predominant family of four (five or ix or seven) on vacation at Magic Kingdom, but again this is just averages. Disney has it's own set of ridiculousness in parade spot savers and such.

And perhaps it's because I am observent (or maybe because I'm usually one of them) but I definitely notice a lot more alcohol consumption at Universal over Disney (excepting Epcot which is very much the same).

Anyway, the point is WDW, Universal & sea World are all great and have different feels and atmosphere. I don't think any one is better, I enjoy them all.
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I honestly would not worry one bit about it. That poster made mountains out of molehills. Your kids are the perfect age for Universal and there are no swear words blasting over the parks or sexually explicit content. The Horror Makeup show is as bad as it gets. If you want to preview it, watch this video...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gPJ_SOc_2o

A few snippets would be...they show a picture of a full moon and ask the audience what movie it is from...everyone yells ET...it isn't from ET but a werewolf movie and the host says, "Yes, it is ET. He is back and he is pissed." That is the worst language you will hear in the show. The host picks a volunteer and gives her body parts to build a boyfriend. There is a comment about the benefits of her boyfriend having three hands. There are a few comments like this that will go right over any youngster's head. The show is rated PG 13 to give parents an idea of the content. If you are concerned, simply skip this show. It is the only show in the parks that has any content that is questionable.

The rest of the stuff that concerned the OP in the other thread can be found at any park and shouldn't be worried about.

As to lyrics for songs playing outside MIB, I never actually spend any time OUTSIDE MIB, so I don't know and I don't think I would be listening anyways. When we go to the parks as a family, we are usually joking around and having fun, so we don't really have time to listen to the lyrics of songs that are playing in the background. I have been to the parks many, many, many times and I honestly could not tell you what songs are played (other than at IOA, where the soundtrack is all themed to the land you are in).

Personally, it is this non-juvenile attitude at Universal that makes me love it. I get so sick of the cutesy stuff at Disney. We don't smoke, don't drink much, have no tattoos or piercings and I usually wear underwear and I still love the place.


Hee Hee! I so love the makeup show! My fave line is "This isnt Disney World ya know....so I dont have to be nice to you." :rotfl2:

To the OP, we just returned from a 3 night stay on property and encountered no problems at all.
 
Wow...I can't believe so many are oblivious to the different demographic of WDW and USO, it is so, so, so obvious. This isn't to say that rude, crude and socially unacceptable folks don't patronize both (all) parks, they do. But Universal, for whatever reason, has more younger folks, more thrill seekers due to the two big coasters and more locals, particularily kids who are more apt to be louder and perhaps obnoxious vs. the predominant family of four (five or ix or seven) on vacation at Magic Kingdom, but again this is just averages. Disney has it's own set of ridiculousness in parade spot savers and such.

I suppose I don't think the demographic is that different, because for every American teenager you encounter at UO, you'll encounter a foreign teen (i.e. Brazilian) in WDW. Different country, same age, same behavior..... Naturally, there's teens from everywhere that visit UO not just from the USA. There's also many teens from all over the world who visit WDW. Yes, you'll occasionally encounter school groups at UO. You'll also encounter never ending tour groups at WDW? I've encountered many groups in both parks & it's obvious to me that no one culture has mastered the art of bringing together 40 teenagers, dropping them in the middle of a theme park, & have them behave as perfect ladies & gentlemen. If they have, they're definitely not going to send them off to Orlando poorly chaperoned, so we'll never encounter them in the parks.
 
I suppose I don't think the demographic is that different, because for every American teenager you encounter at UO, you'll encounter a foreign teen (i.e. Brazilian) in WDW. Different country, same age, same behavior..... Naturally, there's teens from everywhere that visit UO not just from the USA. There's also many teens from all over the world who visit WDW. Yes, you'll occasionally encounter school groups at UO. You'll also encounter never ending tour groups at WDW? I've encountered many groups in both parks & it's obvious to me that no one culture has mastered the art of bringing together 40 teenagers, dropping them in the middle of a theme park, & have them behave as perfect ladies & gentlemen. If they have, they're definitely not going to send them off to Orlando poorly chaperoned, so we'll never encounter them in the parks.

The most rude group of teens I ever encountered at either park was at the "Night of Joy" at Magic Kingdom. We didn't know that was going on that night and had been at the park all day when that crowd descended.
 
hmmm...if they offer beer in the parks, people may drink it;)

myself, i cannot drink in the hot FL sun without feelin mighty green, so it's a moot point for me.

As an ex bartender I have a very low tolerence for sloppy drunks. It's one thing in a club setting...all together another when you are responsible for children's welfare during an outing or are planning to drive from the parks...all things in moderation.:thumbsup2

IMO, the sloppiest drunks are @ Epcot. Make a visit on a weekend during F&W - excellent learning opportunity for your kids as to effects of irresponsible drinking. Doesn't look quite so glamorous;) or fun. Wonder if you can get a DUI for mowing an innocent bystander down with a stroller:rolleyes1

We believe in protecting our children too; while educating them/exposing them to the world. One day they'll have to make their own decisions, just hope you gave them the right tools to do it.:thumbsup2
 
I have heard explicit lyrics at Universal...During Mardi Gras at some of the concerts after the crowd has left........During a normal day at Universal they "radio edit" any songs that has words like *** hore or *****, and I'll probably get radio edited myself. Example....I'll be buring rubber you'll be kissing my (echo my my my ). There are people drinking there, there will be people in the parks using foul language. But you get the same thing at every park except MK, they dont serve alcohol there.
You do seem, as someone else also stated, a little prudish....okay a lot prudish....again by my standards.....an you may be offended by some of the things you will see in say, Citywalk that you have to walk through in order to get in and out of the parks. People go to disney to have an "experience" where they are whisked away to a magical fantasy world, and they tend to ignore the little things that people say and do like swear, or drink around the world...or dance to hip music. At Universal people go to have a good time, and those who are used to disney and love disney tend to pay more attention to the things that they dont agree with. It seems while they are willing to overlook it at disney, they are not willing to at Universal.
I say go expecting the worse.....and ready to keep your kids eyes and ears covered. If you go in expecting that, you may be presently surprised. Theres nothing wrong with wanting to raise your kids a certain way, and wanting to keep them away from certain elements....nothing at all. But they will encounter some things before they are ready, and all you have to do is explain that is not the way you want to do things. Its how we get our kids through all the parks unscathed.
 
If you build it, they will come.....


That is, all types of people, everywhere. If you go out looking for something, either positive or negative, chances are, you will be able to find something to meet your criteria.

OP - just go and enjoy. It is a different experience, but just as fantastic. And it sounds like your kid is a great one anyway, and the only dark side he may be brought over to is that he may never want to go to Disney again :teeth:
 
Sorry you think I was over dramatizing but I was giving you an honest opinion and yes I read into your post to try to prepare you for what I thought you may be uncomfortable with. If you want to to take what I've said personal, I'm sorry just disregard what I post. :upsidedow

If it's truly just the music you're worried about then you have no worries, I don't EVER recall understanding the lyrics or even paying attention to the background music...You'll hear the language in the Parks over and over and over again but if this is somehow different then you're OK.:confused3
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Peter Pirate, I'm truely sorry that I misunderstood your post, I thought you were directing it towards me, I see now that you were directing it towards the poster that started this whole mess!!! Again, I'm sorry.

I'm also so sorry that I even posted this question. I didn't mean to upset anyone I just wanted an honest from parents with small kids. :confused3 I probably won't post here again as I've started something I didn't mean too, that is why in my OP I stated 'please don't get mad at me'. :confused: I hate people using filthy language, but as I stated in my OP, I know the parks can't control that, but they can control the music they play over the intercoms, and now that I've heard from so many people telling me that they haven't heard the type of music 'that poster' stated then I know he was totally wrong (as he was about most things he stated!). I'm so sorry if I upset anyone by my question and I appreciate all the help and advice, you really have helped me tremendously. Thanks for everything! :thumbsup2

One more thing I just have to say, my 12 year old son is on the A honor roll, in the PAWS club, the golf team, he goes to his church youth group every week and loves it, they do a lot of fun things, plus take mission trips. He was also nominated by his history teacher last year to be accepted into the the People to People student Ambassador Program, on June 21, he is leaving for 19 days for a trip to Europe with this program. I guess my 'Prudish parenting' hasn't been such a bad thing after all!
 
Peter Pirate, I'm truely sorry that I misunderstood your post, I thought you were directing it towards me, I see now that you were directing it towards the poster that started this whole mess!!! Again, I'm sorry.

I'm also so sorry that I even posted this question. I didn't mean to upset anyone I just wanted an honest from parents with small kids. :confused3 I probably won't post here again as I've started something I didn't mean too, that is why in my OP I stated 'please don't get mad at me'. :confused: I hate people using filthy language, but as I stated in my OP, I know the parks can't control that, but they can control the music they play over the intercoms, and now that I've heard from so many people telling me that they haven't heard the type of music 'that poster' stated then I know he was totally wrong (as he was about most things he stated!). I'm so sorry if I upset anyone by my question and I appreciate all the help and advice, you really have helped me tremendously. Thanks for everything! :thumbsup2

One more thing I just have to say, my 12 year old son is on the A honor roll, in the PAWS club, the golf team, he goes to his church youth group every week and loves it, they do a lot of fun things, plus take mission trips. He was also nominated by his history teacher last year to be accepted into the the People to People student Ambassador Program, on June 21, he is leaving for 19 days for a trip to Europe with this program. I guess my 'Prudish parenting' hasn't been such a bad thing after all!

Now whos being dramatic? :goodvibes If you ask for an opinion, we will be honest and tell you what we think. If you dont want to know what we think, then by all means dont ask any more questions. But we would love for you to keep posting, and keep asking questions about Universal, and we really hope you go and you loosen up enough to love it.
 
Keep in mind that people are a little sensitive to some of this because Universal gets so unfairly slammed by way too many people. We know it's often unfair because we go to the parks while many of those who criticize haven't even ever been.

I'm certainly not including the OP in that. I thought that her questions were excellent and she certainly had the right to be concerned after that other thread and some prior. Me, I'll just go on enjoying Universal and wondering why some people just can't get over it.
 
Peter Pirate, I'm truely sorry that I misunderstood your post, I thought you were directing it towards me, I see now that you were directing it towards the poster that started this whole mess!!! Again, I'm sorry.

I'm also so sorry that I even posted this question. I didn't mean to upset anyone I just wanted an honest from parents with small kids. :confused3 I probably won't post here again as I've started something I didn't mean too, that is why in my OP I stated 'please don't get mad at me'. :confused: I hate people using filthy language, but as I stated in my OP, I know the parks can't control that, but they can control the music they play over the intercoms, and now that I've heard from so many people telling me that they haven't heard the type of music 'that poster' stated then I know he was totally wrong (as he was about most things he stated!). I'm so sorry if I upset anyone by my question and I appreciate all the help and advice, you really have helped me tremendously. Thanks for everything! :thumbsup2

One more thing I just have to say, my 12 year old son is on the A honor roll, in the PAWS club, the golf team, he goes to his church youth group every week and loves it, they do a lot of fun things, plus take mission trips. He was also nominated by his history teacher last year to be accepted into the the People to People student Ambassador Program, on June 21, he is leaving for 19 days for a trip to Europe with this program. I guess my 'Prudish parenting' hasn't been such a bad thing after all!

Not quite sure what you are feeling badly about. I don't think you started anything or that people feel any differently about you now than before you started this thread. We are here to answer your questions honestly and we did. The problem with a discussion board is that people read emotion into posts that really isn't there. I don't think anyone is thinking you are a prudish parent at all but people are just stating in general that you (as in a generic you) shouldn't go anywhere if you aren't prepared to deal with people being people. I don't think anyone was pointing their finger at you in particular but just making general statements. Don't give this thread another thought and let's just keep planning like we were before.

Your response to the thread on the other board was exactly the reason that it made so many of us here upset. It was very misleading and made people think that perhaps USF was just too edgy for them.
 
One more thing I just have to say, my 12 year old son is on the A honor roll, in the PAWS club, the golf team, he goes to his church youth group every week and loves it, they do a lot of fun things, plus take mission trips. He was also nominated by his history teacher last year to be accepted into the the People to People student Ambassador Program, on June 21, he is leaving for 19 days for a trip to Europe with this program. I guess my 'Prudish parenting' hasn't been such a bad thing after all!

It's not prudish parenting, it's PARENTING. Some folks parent one way, some parent other ways. You also sound like a VERY careful mother who wants to protect her kids at all costs. Yes, you might hear things that you can insinuate to be "bad" or "filthy" lyrics. It's your right and your choice to hear them, and if you want to stand out in front of MIB, miss an incredible ride, and see if you can hear it, well, more power to you. Like Yatez said, there are radio edits and you're looking at one place with the music, if you noticed. The music at MIB is from the era of the movie, and btw, Wil Smith doesn't curse in his rap, his reasoning being that HE doesn't like to curse as well! That post was someone who just didn't want to have a good time at Universal and didn't want to educate herself to the cool stuff there.

You have raised your kids to not say these words and be someone different. Great. You also aren't naive. They will get exposed to language anywhere they go, they will see people both having a great time and some that won't. That happens no matter where you go. This can be a great test for them. You raised them well. Don't worry about it.

I hope you are still reading this thread. It's an important question.
 
I have no idea what that poster was talking about. I am still not sure he was in Universal or Islands of Adventure. We went last year and had a blast with our then 6 and 4 yr old. We loved it so much we added a day to our stay while we were there AND booked another trip for next month. When I say that my children have talked about Universal everyday since we left last year I am not joking.
 
FYI,
We just got back 2 weeks ago with our 2,5,and 7 year old. It was fine but definitly had a more edgy feel overall to it in my opinion. The only thing we heard that surprised us was in Shrek it said *** refering to the donkey and heard the word lesbian over the loud speaker. We were not upset, as much at just surprised I guess. This is not a homophobic statement, just not something we have discussed yet with our 3 kids, so let's not go there. We dcided for us we will probably not return until they are teens, but that is more because of the nature of the rides than the feel of the parks.
Alicia
 











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