Rant - Stepkids & Husband

Now you are disagreeing with your original post and agreeing with me...confusing:scratchin. Either way I'm glad you acknowledge your earlier statement was false and that there is not a court that would rule that a SP isn't allowed to discipline them when they are allowed to be their caregiver. :thumbsup2


I never said there was a court order that would rule a SP is not allowed to discipline.

My original statement:

I work with many families in which SPs have to watch their stepchildren and are not allowed to discipline. Many times their parents think the step is too harsh on their child or not objective.

No where did I write it was court order...

The "not allowed" is by the parent(s), not the court
 
I never said there was a court order that would rule a SP is not allowed to discipline.

My original statement:

I work with many families in which SPs have to watch their stepchildren and are not allowed to discipline. Many times their parents think the step is too harsh on their child or not objective.

No where did I write it was court order...

The "not allowed" is by the parent(s), not the court

Parents cannot "not allow" someone to discipline their child if that child is in the care of the SP. Not even possible to control such a thing. How do they enforce this with no court order? A parent can also not allow a child to have McDonalds, but again with nothing in writing nothing stops the SP or other parent from giving the child McD's. To me saying you work with many families who are not allowed to do something in a custody agreement means it is part of the written order. Otherwise, there is no recourse if they go against the wishes. You may request such a thing and the other person may respect those wishes, but when it comes to being responsible for the care of someone I cannot see how anyone would agree to caring for a child alone without the right to discipline in a reasonable way.

I also don't know why you would have argued about my point that when a child is in my house they will follow my rules or be disciplined(in a fair and reasonable way just to be clear). The only way you can stop me is by not allowing the child to be in my home and the only way that happens in a custody dispute is with an order/agreement in place.

Even if you are saying this happens because both sides agree to it I don't believe it happens. Nobody would willingly accept the responsibility of caring for a child alone without being allowed to keep them safe and discipline is needed to do this from time to time.
 
I really don't care whose kids they are, if I've arranged for a break from my own kids I'd be rather angry to be volunteered as childcare for other kids. That has nothing to do with my feelings for any of the children involved and everything to do with the basic disrespect of demanding I give up scarce downtime for the sake of others' ease/relaxation.

If DH has a week off work, I don't assume I can spend my time however I choose and leave him to take care of the kids all day every day. If I have a break between semesters, DH doesn't assume he can set aside his usual role in taking care of the kids and the house during that time. We might discuss and agree upon changes to the usual routines but it isn't assumed or demanded without the other's agreement. That has nothing to do with parenting or step-parenting and everything to do with basic respect and common courtesy.
 

Parents cannot "not allow" someone to discipline their child if that child is in the care of the SP. Not even possible to control such a thing.

Of course they can. Simply tell the child not to listen to the step parent. Kid will follow parent's directive.

[To me saying you work with many families who are not allowed to do something in a custody agreement means it is part of the written order.

That's you inferring something that was not written. I did not mention custody agreement. This is the conflict that is brought to me, and why it is now in court.

[You may request such a thing and the other person may respect those wishes, but when it comes to being responsible for the care of someone I cannot see how anyone would agree to caring for a child alone without the right to discipline in a reasonable way. [/I]

The SP is not agreeing... that's usually why we are in court.

I also don't know why you would have argued about my point that when a child is in my house they will follow my rules or be disciplined(in a fair and reasonable way just to be clear). The only way you can stop me is by not allowing the child to be in my home and the only way that happens in a custody dispute is with an order/agreement in place.

I never argued about what happens in your home... only what has happened in others.

Even if you are saying this happens because both sides agree to it I don't believe it happens. Nobody would willingly accept the responsibility of caring for a child alone without being allowed to keep them safe and discipline is needed to do this from time to time.

You can believe what you like, however this conflict arises often. The Step does NOT want to accept responsibility without being allowed to discipline... that was the whole point.
 
It's important to understand each "blended family" has different circumstances & philosophies on how their family operates.
 
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I really don't care whose kids they are, if I've arranged for a break from my own kids I'd be rather angry to be volunteered as childcare for other kids. That has nothing to do with my feelings for any of the children involved and everything to do with the basic disrespect of demanding I give up scarce downtime for the sake of others' ease/relaxation.

If DH has a week off work, I don't assume I can spend my time however I choose and leave him to take care of the kids all day every day. If I have a break between semesters, DH doesn't assume he can set aside his usual role in taking care of the kids and the house during that time. We might discuss and agree upon changes to the usual routines but it isn't assumed or demanded without the other's agreement. That has nothing to do with parenting or step-parenting and everything to do with basic respect and common courtesy.

Thank you!!! You nailed it. :thumbsup2
 
I cannot even begin how very very very very strongly I disagree with this above post.

OMG....

I don't care if these were actually HER kids.. (and not step-kids)

Just because one is a wife and mother does not mean that you are a servant, on call, 24/7.Being born with a female body part does not mean that you are a 24/7 life-long servant... and it is ASSUMED that you are always there to care-for and to do-for the males and the children.

And, whether one wants to be a 'hater' and flame this woman because they are not their kids... or not... The fact remains that these kids have TWO biological parents who simply assumed that she would take the time off and give up her break so THEY wouldn't have to.

Unbelievable that there are still women, who are not in some third-world country, who not only adhere to this mind-set, but would openly hate and judge any who do not.

OP, you need to talk with your husband.
You need to start to establish a new status-quo and more healthy respect and boundaries...
Shared responsibility... Breaks for you... etc.

Again, HUGS!!!! :goodvibes

If you are a parent, I do believe you are "on call" 24/7. I also believe when I became a step parent, I was also on call for them 24/7. If you want to refer to it as being a servant, well, that's your choice, I call it being a mother.

This thread has exploded since the last time I looked this morning, and haven't read all the posts. But from what I've read, it's my opinion OP has a husband (manchild) problem, not a stepchild problem.
 
There was 1 time we asked my SD to watch our younger kids, her siblings so we could take a walk (exercise) and she went back home and complained to her mom!!!

My turn for some OT. Your post made me think of the dynamics of stepfamilies and that, no matter how some people might insist they are the exact same, they do often have a different element.

I have only ever asked my stepchildren to watch my son once. Well...it was just my oldest stepchild. I asked her to watch him while I went to the washroom when we were staying in a condo for vacation because there was a steep set of stairs off the living room. All I asked her to do was to yell really loud if he went near the baby gate. DH had gone out to get milk or something. I was right next to them in the bathroom with the door open no less. She didn't need to yell. He didn't go near it.

She went home and told her mother that I make her babysit. Now she was only 6 so you just sort of chuckle and know that can't be right. Their perspectives are cute. Not her mom. She chewed me out for using her children. :rolleyes:

If am happy to say that I explained what happens and I shrugged it off and have never asked them to do anything remotely close to that again.
 
If you are a parent, I do believe you are "on call" 24/7. I also believe when I became a step parent, I was also on call for them 24/7. If you want to refer to it as being a servant, well, that's your choice, I call it being a mother.

This thread has exploded since the last time I looked this morning, and haven't read all the posts. But from what I've read, it's my opinion OP has a husband (manchild) problem, not a stepchild problem.

For the sake of clarity, are you saying that I should be on call as a stepmom for whenever their mother decides she wants to vacation without them at a moment's notice? Can you please explain why this would be true? Some of these attempts to argue just for the sake of argument are hilarious. By the way, how old are you stepchildren?

ETA: And why would I be on call but their own parents are not?
 
Of course I did! I booked my week off before June 30, 2014. But he wasn't responsible for anything, other than himself. I'm not sure what you mean. When my son wasn't with me, he was to be with his father not my DH.


Thank you for responding to my question; I hope that you get it all worked out. Based on what you have posted, I'm pretty sure that you don't need marital help and I don't see any red flags, despite what others might see.
 
If you are a parent, I do believe you are "on call" 24/7. I also believe when I became a step parent, I was also on call for them 24/7. If you want to refer to it as being a servant, well, that's your choice, I call it being a mother.

Meh. Even moms need a break. I do not have step children, but I plan a few getaways with my friends every year. If my husband told me the day before I left that he no longer wants to be responsible for our children while I am away and I have to cancel my trip, I would be angry.

So, I imagine I would be very angry if the reason I couldn't go away was because his ex-wife wanted to go away and I was assigned to take her place and sit with the step-children while everyone else got to do what they wanted.

I just don't understand how he works only to send the child support check to his ex-wife and pay his car insurance (on one family car).

He doesn't contribute financially to anything else. He honestly just seems like a big turn off to me. Not just the money part, but the fact that he really doesn't seem to care about the OP's feelings.
 
Chocolate Cake, I have explained the money situation already. The choice is to do things this way or have him live in a different town to continue the work he was doing. I am totally fine with picking up the slack. It is seriously a nonissue for me. I only brought it up because someone chastised me for complaining because he was going to work to "support me and my son". I am and always have been financially independent.

Nobody else knows my husband so I'm really the only one who can comment on whether or not he is a good one and I certainly think he is. The one and only area where we struggle is with his relationship with his kids and thus ex and sorting all that out.
 
Nobody else knows my husband so I'm really the only one who can comment on whether or not he is a good one and I certainly think he is.


You seem like a smart woman, but if you think this is how a "good one" acts, you are very confused. Don't settle for this garbage. He seems like a lazy parent and not a nice husband:

Mostly because when he would come home from work or before work, he wouldn't jump in to help with anything. I had to beg for him to contribute so I could get the smallest of breaks.

Feeling resentful this morning as I spent the last hour begging him to go out and shovel the drive so I could drive him to work.

He agreed to take the kids because he is afraid to make her upset.

No I wasn't consulated ahead of time. I was told I had to go pick them up…

And in the meantime, you take care of all of the kids, you work, you pay all of his bills (well, not his child support). And he tells you that you have to go pick up his children so his ex (who he is afraid to upset) can vacation?

He's got himself a pretty good thing going on, doesn't he?
 
Wow...a whole lot of people have made a whole lot of assumptions that are just plain wrong.

1. This isn't about my vacation time. The first week they were here I was actually still working and took them to work with me and had to cancel appointments to work from home.

How old are the kids? Why could your and DH not get a babysitter?


2. My DH and his ex do not have a decent relationship. They have not been in the same room together in years and she chooses to speak with him though me, most of the time. I have a fine relationship with each of them and my ex and I have a wonderful coparenting relationship and live across the street from each other. He agreed to take the kids because he is afraid to make her upset. But their drama has nothing to do with me.

Why did she not contact you this time? He took the kids because they are his kids.

3. My stepkids are absolutely welcome at my house any time. However, since it is illegal to leave minor children home alone, they are not able to be here whenever they feel like it. (That and the two hour drive between us and their mother's refusal to drive them here. She has never been I our neighbourhood in her life.)

What does the custody order say? Many of the orders I know of, the parent who is getting the kid makes the drive.

4. It wasn't like I would be sitting home and doing nothing all week. I had plans to go out of town to visit my family actually, who I rarely see due to distance.

Without your son? DH could have hired babysitters while he was a work.

5. No I wasn't consulated ahead of time. I was told I had to go pick them up and it was explained to me that his work plans had changed and he would only take Christmas Day and New Years Day off during the 2 weeks. And of course I did it because I love my stepkids.

It seems your DH agreed when he was going to be off and then he could not be off. He did not need to lose his job over this. Our plans changed lots this December, due to DH's job. We had to cancel an out of town trip and I had to pick up lots of the slack. That is what happens sometimes and that is how married people handle the situation as adults.

6. Yes, you bet I expressed my displeasure and we have talked about it several times since. And there will be further discussions.

How many times to you have to beat him up over this? How long have you been married?

7. I would never ever ever leave my son with my DH without asking him first and it has rarely ever happened that he has been alone with him. I wouldn't leave him with his own dad for that matter without making arrangements ahead of time. My DH is not responsible for my son's childcare. His parents are. And do parents really get to go to the grocery store alone? :rotfl:

You never say, "DH, I am running to the grocery store, can you want MY son?" Really!!!! That is what married people do. You seem to have two families that have adults with benefits.

8. My son and his children spend equal amounts of time in our home. Their mother lets them spend every holiday with us because she wants the time to herself. And I am quite happy about having them for those special times and have never complained. I am complaining, not about the holiday, but about all the time surrounding the holidays. We are supposed to share these times, which I think is important for the kids to have time with each family. We had them the entire summer minus a week and a half. So we have them plenty when it is not "our turn" but when you are coparenting from different cities, you do have to take turns. In fact, it's the law here.

This is dictated by the custody order. Custody orders can be altered if both parents agree.

9. The kids and I had fun but they didn't understand why they couldn't spend some time with their mom and commented many times about how they hardly got to see their dad.

I feel sorry for these kids.

10. In our family, step parents are not equal to parents. I am their step mother, not their mother, and there is a different relationship there with different responsibilities. I love them dearly but I would never try to be their mother. And we have all agreed upon this and it works well for us. I have a great relationship with my stepkids. We are very close. That's not the issue here.

11. My husband works to pay child support and his car insurance payment. None of his money supports me, my child or him for that matter. I have a great job and make loads more money. I'm not sure why this is relevant to some people but there you go. And it's not admirable of him to pay child support. It's his responsibility.

So you have the yours and my kids and the yours and my money. :rolleyes2 Where is the marriage?

12. This is mostly not about me taking care of my stepkids or loving them or any of those things. My issue is about disrespect and ungratitude from my DH.

This seems to be a two way street!

13. I firmly believe I deserve to have time off to myself once a year. I work very hard at my job and at being a wonderful mother, stepmother and wife.

Does your DH also deserve this or only you because you so out earn him. :rolleyes:

14. I am not complaining about them being in my home. I am complaining about the expectation that I watch them alone 24/7 for 2 weeks, without a car, to make matters worse.

Why do you not have a car with all the money that you make?


15. Yes, my son enjoyed having his step siblings here. However, he did miss the time that we had scheduled to do things just the two of us and the visit to see his family. I have promised him we will take two days during winter break and go on a trip, just him and I. And, for the record, he loves having time to play by himself. He begs for it in fact and it's rarely ever possible.

Why is it rear for him to have alone time? It appears that you get your son during times when your DH does not get his kids. How many other kids are at your son's father's house? Since you live across the street, couldn't your son just walk across the street to see his dad and get some alone time?

Thank you to those who made an attempt to sympathize or empathize. Your comments were really helpful to me. And you are right about me needing to create more boundaries. I need to start standing up for myself more and stop being used...by both of their parents.

I am shocked at the overt sexism in this thread, and a lot of it has come from women. I guarentee if I was a man the responses would be different.

Not from me. If your DH was off and you had to work, I would expect him to do the childcare, laundry and cooking while you were at work. BTW that is how DH and I do things. We each have one job that we hate and the other person does not mind. Even that job, we would do if the need arose. DH did most of the cooking on his days off this holiday.




This is exactly where my post stemmed from. Thank you! I would have felt a whole lot better if my DH would have recognized that I was being kind to watch the children and that I was doing a good job. And if he would have made an effort to spend some time with them and do something things for us when he was home.

Sounds like a marriage communication problem.
 
Sorry, but to me, the whole very presumptuous idea that all are parents (Step Parents, Grand Parents, how about God-parents...) and all MUST be there, on call, no questions asked... 24/7 is some kind of warped pipe-dream.

I would not presume to leave my child ANYWHERE... not even with his father, who I am married to and living with... for this length of time, without having a fair and respectful discussion about the plans.

Some of these post just have me going... :confused:


Exactly! To do otherwise would leave a lot of kids home alone! :scared1:
 
I'm sorry OP. That's very frustrating. I actually don't even see your post as being a blended family issue. It can occur exactly the same way for so many issues.

A lack of communication, that's all. And taking you for granted, I believe. And assumptions made.

There are a myriad of issues that have nothing to do with children in partnerships and marriages that are exactly the same issue. Expectations, a lack of communication, not understanding the other side.

I would have done what you did as you thought of those girls' feelings first and foremost.

And then secondly thought about the ramifications and drama that probably would have ensued if they didn't come for that second week of holidays after Boxing Day.

But I'm sitting here wondering whether there would have been clarity for now and for the future if you said to him "Sorry, I know you want the girls to come for the second week - that's wonderful, but you didn't let me know/give me any notice and you know I had plans to see some of my family/loved ones while I was off (I'm assuming he was aware :goodvibes) and your legal agreement says I can't travel with the girls alone (I did read that, right? If I did, interesting that travel back to their mother is fine. :lmao: ;) Being totally sarcastic.). So we need to figure this out with us, your work etc."

Sometimes it needs to be stated clearly with action, to highlight where we're going wrong. I'm not always good at that but aging has brought me there for sure. Knowing that at times it's absolutely necessary. EDIT:This is exactly what you did with the drive home so you've already finished part of the job, showing your limits/needs clearly.

Just thinking out loud. Happy New Year OP. :thumbsup2
 
I started reading the replies but then I thought they got too judgmental towards you so I stopped reading them.

Anyway, I took 2 weeks off from work during the holidays and told my family that no one was staying home from school/work! I really just spent most of the time getting xmas decorations up, xmas shopping, cleaning the house, etc. Not really any ME time. But just to have the house to myself for a few days was heavenly.

I don't blame you for complaining. I would have went back to work. It's more relaxing being at work than staying home taking care of kids. When you are a working mom you really look forward to those few hours at home alone.
 
Sounds like a marriage communication problem.

I refuse to go back and answer all the questions you have asked in red text in your last post. You could easily keep reading the thread and see that I have elaborated on every single thing you asked.

And yes, I think it is well established at this point that there is a communication issue.

It is exhausting dealing with people who post before reading.

Sorry...getting tired and cranky.
 


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