RANT ALERT Park Manners

For so many people obsessed with manners and propriety, how about a little tolerance?

It must be really something to have been elected as the ultimate judge of all people and exactly how everyone should behave and when. I can't imagine the pressure.

Too bad, it seems, that you missed a couple lessons in humility and humanity yourselves.

I think I may internet love you. Best post I've seen in the thread.
 
For so many people obsessed with manners and propriety, how about a little tolerance?

It must be really something to have been elected as the ultimate judge of all people and exactly how everyone should behave and when. I can't imagine the pressure.

Too bad, it seems, that you missed a couple lessons in humility and humanity yourselves.

I agree. Many of these people here ranting about manners seem to have bad manners themselves.

Why in heck should an older kid in a stroller, on a leash or sucking a soother bother anyone else in the park?

How can the able bodied act so miserable if a person on scooter gets on the bus before them?

If someone takes their kid to the bathroom and then gets back in line with the rest of their family, WHO CARES?

Be kind and considerate not only of your own family but also understand the needs of other families may not be the same as your own.

You are at Disney. Chillax.
 
I agree. Many of these people here ranting about manners seem to have bad manners themselves.

Why in heck should an older kid in a stroller, on a leash or sucking a soother bother anyone else in the park?

How can the able bodied act so miserable if a person on scooter gets on the bus before them?

If someone takes their kid to the bathroom and then gets back in line with the rest of their family, WHO CARES?

Be kind and considerate not only of your own family but also understand the needs of other families may not be the same as your own.

You are at Disney. Chillax.

:thumbsup2

When my kids (ages 8 and 10) get antsy waiting in line, I just tell them to relax, they will get their turn eventually. I guess it's possible that a ride may break down, but other than that exception, everyone in line will get to experience the attraction. Everyone in line will get on a bus back to their resort. There is no reason to push to the front or to cut in line, but people still feel the need to do it. I can't control the actions of other people so I try very hard not to let it bother me. I tell my kids the same thing:goodvibes.
 
Dig out your autograph book, while waiting in line to see the character. Do not waste all of our time trying to find the pen and paper when you are up with the character. Same goes for digging out your wallet or money at the store.

Be aware of your blinking ears, hats or jewelry. Turn it off if you are going thru a dark themed space or during a performance (assuming it is not one designed to go with the ears.

Pay attention to scooters. They can't turn on a dime or stop quick. Don't step in front of them, or climb over them while they are in motion. It is not malicious, but they may not be able to stop.
 

Rant--If you are a teenage Brazilian girl, stay home until you learn manners. What a bad example these large groups are or maybe just poor parenting at home! My opinion. as I was there in Feb and overheard (i understand their language) them talking about how funny it is to make the "americans" mad as they were singing at the top of there lungs as we waited for a parade. I told a couple of them that we weren't mad. That they were bad ambassadors for their country. they were surprise i spoke and just laughed and kept on singing.
 
Ok more random rants...


Finally if you have your child on a leash, you are not a parent, you are a failure.

Best quote ever!! Going to get this one framed.

I'd just assume stay home for the week if the only way I could control my kids was with a leash.

Now if only we could get some of them a muzzle to match.....
 
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Rant--If you are a teenage Brazilian girl, stay home until you learn manners. What a bad example these large groups are or maybe just poor parenting at home! My opinion. as I was there in Feb and overheard (i understand their language) them talking about how funny it is to make the "americans" mad as they were singing at the top of there lungs as we waited for a parade. I told a couple of them that we weren't mad. That they were bad ambassadors for their country. they were surprise i spoke and just laughed and kept on singing.

that really doesn't sound anything different to the american cheer squads :cheer2: in december, except you can understand every crude and annoying thing they say in english.....teen girls the world over are annoying...regardless of where they come from.
 
Best quote ever!! Going to get this one framed.

I'd just assume stay home for the week if the only way I could control my kids was with a leash.

Now if only we could get some of them a muzzle to match.....

Of course, because this is 1890 and children should be seen and not heard... :sad2:

Oh, and yes, if parents do have runner children they should be confined to their house until their child stops - be it 6 months or six years. Society has no need of such 'failures' and they should be hidden away for the greater good. Good grief!

I have three children, there are less than four years between the eldest and youngest. The first two were not runners - never ran away from me or DH and I use to be one of you judgey types who rolled my eyes whenever I saw a parent use a 'leash'. Then I had DS3 and my life - and opinion - changed forever. From the time DS3 could walk until he was 2 and 3/4s he would run. We tried every trick we could think of, but unless he was strapped into a stroller, he'd run - and then he worked out how to undo the stroller and he would climb out and run some more. When we went to DL last year, I caved and bought a leash (a Mickey shaped harness to ease the guilt) and took it with us. We decided to see how he'd go on the first day without it and lo and behold, a small Disney miracle occurred; he quietly stood next to either myself or DH and held our hands. Every minute of every day. I kid you not, it was instant and we can only think it was the magic of Disney :confused3 Since then, he has been a different child to the one pre-Disneyland. We never had to use the harness/leash, but I have certainly changed the way I look at parents who need them to keep their children safe. We parented #3 son the exact way we parented #1 and #2, it's just the way the kids are wired. So how about we all stop being judgemental and give other parents a break?

I have much more of a problem with pushy, know-it-all, entitled adults than I do with kids on a leash.
 
Not the fat ones; they prefer the front of line access..

You have no idea what goes through somebody's head!!

I am severely overweight and I walk. My feet kill me and I walk. I figure walking is good for me and on some level I deserve what I get. I've worked very hard in life to achieve while being overlooked in jobs and friendships.

A couple of years ago, I rented a scooter because I broke my ribs while in vacation. I wonder no...I know what assumption you would have made if you had seen my on my scooter.

PS, I'm not sure YOU would be willing to walk in the parks all day to come back to the room with purple swollen feet that hurts so bad that you want to cry. Would you go a mile out of your way to make every precaution to make walking possible? YOU could say that you have a condition that makes your feet hurt excessively and no one would bother you.

Like I said, i have walked on 12 of 13 trips and did not let my weight justify the 1 trip on the scooter.

I travel in the off season. I choose the least crowded park days. I walk months before the trip. I drink lots of water and take lots of ibuprofen BEFORE I leave the room. I wear padded socks. I put aspercreme on my legs and feet. I do everything I can, and do try to lose weight, but have not yet been successful. Would you go to that much trouble?

I'm sure some fat people want to go to the front of the line. I'm sure some thin people would like the front of the line.
 
You have no idea what goes through somebody's head!! I am severely overweight and I walk. My feet kill me and I walk. I figure walking is good for me and on some level I deserve what I get. I've worked very hard in life to achieve while being overlooked in jobs and friendships. A couple of years ago, I rented a scooter because I broke my ribs while in vacation. I wonder no...I know what assumption you would have made if you had seen my on my scooter. PS, I'm not sure YOU would be willing to walk in the parks all day to come back to the room with purple swollen feet that hurts so bad that you want to cry. Would you go a mile out of your way to make every precaution to make walking possible? YOU could say that you have a condition that makes your feet hurt excessively and no one would bother you. Like I said, i have walked on 12 of 13 trips and did not let my weight justify the 1 trip on the scooter. I travel in the off season. I choose the least crowded park days. I walk months before the trip. I drink lots of water and take lots of ibuprofen BEFORE I leave the room. I wear padded socks. I put aspercreme on my legs and feet. I do everything I can, and do try to lose weight, but have not yet been successful. Would you go to that much trouble? I'm sure some fat people want to go to the front of the line. I'm sure some thin people would like the front of the line.

While walking may be good for you, severe pain is not and you don't deserve that at all as you say. Please don't feel the need to excuse yourself away because of the comments of one ignorant person. I'm sure he/she thought it was real funny

Not the fat ones; they prefer the front of line access..
D'har har the fatties are lazy *roll eyes*

unfortunately there are a lot of ignorant people that think they know everything about the health and lifestyle of a fat person and can judge and diagnose with a glance. Unfortunately, you can't, just like you can't tell how anybody lives or thei medical status just by looking at them.

Plus, it's disney. Everybody would prefer front of the line access.
 
I think the fat, the thin, the harnessed, the scootered, the strollered... they should all come and have fun.

The ill-mannered, the all-knowing and the ignorant (and, no, those groups are certainly not mutually exclusive) should stay home.

But, before you take the ample bait on this thread, check some of the more inflamatory posters. Click on their names and check their posting history.

Several seem to exist merely to bait the others here. Suprise, suprise, they've never walked a mile in any of the footsteps they're so willing to criticize. So take their comments-- and their apparent hobby-- for what it is.

As for my family: if you need a seat more than we do, any or all of us will be happy to give up ours (and if my kids aren't exactly "happy" they know enough to act as though they are!) If your child--or your spouse-- has a meltdown, you'll be getting sympathetic looks from us.. we've been in those shoes. If we have to wait for another bus (though, to be honest, we've never had to wait for another bus because of too many scooter-users and their families. Long lines, yes, but not scooters.) then we'll wait. My kids are all old enough that they know they can last another 15 minutes standing, or they can sit on the pavement as they wait.

Reinforcing the idea of "Do unto others" is more important than catching the next bus or my aching feet. And we're not in the parks to anyone's breaking point. We learned long ago that our family vacation is only as much fun as the most miserable person. So when one person has had enough, either we split up or we all go back for a swim. Sure, we may not use that Soarin' fastpass. But we'll have a great vacation.
 
How dare you allow your child the freedom to walk at a safe distance in a busy place?!?! You are clearly a failure. Get a stroller and force your kid to sit in it all day like the other successful parents! ;)

One of my three was a serious stroller escape artist when she was quite little. There was no way to secure her in the stroller without her getting out. It was scary and frustrating. I literally couldn't turn my head from her. She's not an brat, but she's extremely determined. I guess we could have tightened the straps to be painfully tight, but we opted for a compromise that kept her safe and everyone happy. I'm comfortable with that.

My eldest child was the sort that if you said "don't move!" She wouldn't. I never even child proofed. I told her not to touch it and she didn't. Then I had two more kids and they're NOT the same.
 
I guess my sarcasm font didn't show up...
I have no problem with leashes
 
I guess my sarcasm font didn't show up... I have no problem with leashes
It was one of the most obviously sarcastic posts I've seen on the Dis. An even if it wasn't, the wink at the end should have been a clear giveaway.
 
For so many people obsessed with manners and propriety, how about a little tolerance?

It must be really something to have been elected as the ultimate judge of all people and exactly how everyone should behave and when. I can't imagine the pressure.

Too bad, it seems, that you missed a couple lessons in humility and humanity yourselves.

I HEART THIS.

I am just going to continue to treat people the way I want to be treated. Hold doors for all, say please/thank you/excuse me, offer seats to those who need it or may even look like they need it.

I may get annoyed with others, but I will keep my thoughts to myself and enjoy my hard earned vacation.

But...If anyone is curious, my biggest pet peeves are forcing a child on a ride or lying to them, "You are the only child not listening to his parents today". Yep, heard that one at AK a few years back.
 
I've only been to WDW a few times and our last trip in Dec was our first big family trip. One thing we would sometimes get upset about is that we had been standing in line for a bus for over 20 min and, just as the next bus rolled up, someone with a scooter would get in the handicap section. They obviously have to let the scooters on first, but it would irk us when they would have a large family with them that would get right on with them and not do any waiting in line. This happened one morning we were trying to get to a park. Two people in the family had scooters and they had 8 very large family members with them. They literally took almost half of the bus and most of the line had to wait for another bus. I don't know...I'm torn about "etiquette" for this. I mean, I get wanting to stay with the family, but if it was me, I would either split the family so a couple went with those on scooters to help them out and everyone else stay in line or tell the driver we would wait in line and not to put our scooter family members on until we could all fairly get on the bus.

Last June waiting for an Epcot bus at Pop Century there was a long line. One bus came and was loaded to capacity and we were still 20 people or so from the front. After about 15 minutes a second Epcot bus pulled up and 2 women with strollers walked up to the handicap area. The driver asked the women if they could fold the strollers and they responded that their babies were asleep and it was far too hot to take them out and disturb them. I'm not really sure whether or not the babies actually had any handicap or not. Anyhow, the driver was a bit conflicted as to what to do, but proceeded to strap the 2 strollers into the scooter/wheelchair area of the bus. Once the strollers were strapped in the ladies waved to the rest of their family to join them and a group of 10 to 12 additional people jumped on the bus, filling the entire back end of the bus. After waiting 20 to 25 minutes my family barely made it onto this second bus, standing in the aisle. Thanks to these people the people right behind us who had already waited almost as long as we had, were forced to wait for yet another bus.
 














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