You can get a creative 1 gig for 100 bucks, I just bought a Nuvo for just under 100 and it holds more than 150 songs, and doesnt need itunes!
Creative is just as good as ipod, just doesnt have the ipod name, we're a creative family, with a nomad big boy for me, and the DD's both have Nuvo 512's and the DBF just got his Nuvo 1 gig....
My big one is a year old, no problems battery still good, the DD's nuvo's are about 6 months old, and the nuvo 1 gig is a couple weeks old, and has fallen from a 70 foot bucket truck and still lived to play more music!
Brandy