Question for any teachers or parents that have done this.

The second, and let me preface this by saying, I respect teachers. I could never be one as I dont have the patience needed. I fully support my teachers in every way I can.

That said, I don't understand the statement that they "only get paid when they work". If you make 65K dollars a year and you spread it out over 12 months, you gross a little over 5400 a month,but you still make $65K

If you spread that over 10 months, you gross 6500 a month, BUT YOU STILL MAKE THE SAME $65K.

That is not a valid argument.

Also, I do feel for you about taking your grading home and having to get your masters. However, that is not any different than in my industry (technology in the financial vertical) where I often had to work 50 or 60 hours during rollouts or emergencies. I had to continue going for classes and instructions and certifications to keep my job or to advance so please don't act the martyr that you are the only ones.

Everyone is having to do more with less. More people have to contribute to their health insurances when in the past we never did.

Its not just the teachers, its everyone.

On top of that, it is very difficult to get rid of bad teachers whereas in my field, any given day, yo could walk into work and be laid off along with 20% of your co-workers.

Its a crazy world these days and you are not the only ones having to make sacrifices.

I'm currently in college to be a teacher. I'm not sure where you're from (I'm guessing an area with high living costs because that's the only reason why my mom earned $61K with her master's in education), but in the state I'll be graduating in, my starting salary will be $35K. As dbramer pointed out, even with teaching experience and a master's, I will still be earning less than $60K. I would love to earn $65K!
 
Again, folks, do as you choose. You're right-- they're your kids. As much as I would never pull my own kids out of school for a Disney vacation, that's my choice. Each of us makes what we hope and pray are the best choices in parenting our kids, and I think we can all understand that others may not make the same choices we would.

And, being that this is the Dis, they're all A students. I'm pretty sure I would get kicked off if anyone realized that I have the only three 'average' students on the Disboards, possibly in the US.

But what I, and I think a number of other teachers here are saying is this: please don't live with the illusion that those worksheets or journals are taking the place of what is happening in class. Will your child learn enough to pass the tests? Sure, I imagine they will.

My kids this year have learned a lot of little tidbits that will help them when they take Algebra II & Trig in two years. Not because they were in the syllabus, or because I planned to teach them, but because the teachable moments came up and I took advantage. They can do synthetic division and they know what an imaginary number is, because they were there when the question came up and I chose to answer the question. The kids who were absent those days didn't learn those things. They're not on the test, I didn't record a video on them, and they aren't on my website. But the kids who were in class know them.

So much goes on in class that doesn't make the test or the videos or the website. There are so many small connections that lay the foundation for future material, that deepen the kids' understanding. So many small jokes and stories and events that form the basis for future references.

I think that when people say that they would take their kids out in elementary but not middle or high school, they're overstating just how easy elementary school is. Sure, it's easy for YOU. But for your 6 or 7 or 10 year old child, adding those fractions of doing that spelling is every bit as challenging as proving Trig Identities are for my 15 year old son. And, sure, if he's sick and misses school, I can get him caught up. But it won't be the same as if he were in class. There will be nuances that I can't give him because I wasn't there.

And, for what it's worth, I agree with whoever it was who complained about teachers "taking a week's vacation." Personally, I don't know any who have, but if that's happening then under normal circumstances I agree. (Though it's entirely possible that those who have share the same reasoning that I've read here, for example a spouse who is home from deployment, a child on a Make a Wish trip...)

I don't take "mental health days" or vacation days. I call in sick if I have the flu or one of my kids is too sick or too young to stay home alone, or for a family funeral. Last week I missed a period and a half when the school nurse called; my 14 year old had gotten sick in school. I picked her up (it's a 14 minute drive if I can make the lights), tucked her in to bed, and got back to school. And I missed the day before February break (and the first 3 days of that break) because I had the flu. I teach with Layrngitis (though I joke that, as a math teacher, I would be in real trouble if I ever broke my right arm. As long as I can write, I can teach.) I take my own attendance every bit as seriously as I take that of my students.

Bottom line, one more time: I'll happily teach anyone who shows up for class. More than that I cannot do.
 
We have taken our dgd out in elementary school, with the school and teachers blessing. Good thing we did then because she would never agree to miss a day now that she is in middle school.

I know that people have strong feelings about what is appropriate, but it is not always possible to have family vacations during the summer or during school vacations, so you have to do wharves best for your family. That's why I am glad dd took our dgd out when she was younger, because we never would have had those precious vacations had she not. Kady told me that she can't miss any school now, so she was glad as well.
 

I'm on Long Island and our teachers make a pretty penny! They deserve it along with the cops who make a small fortune!

Anyway, i will have a 2nd, 4th, and 6th grader come September and am taking them out for 4 days... They will probably miss a 5th as we get back really late. I tried to plan it over the Jewish holidays, but it was a lot more $$$. It's September and they will only be in school for not even two weeks. This is definitely the last year I plan on doing this as my oldest is getting old...
 
I teach in an elementary school. I was talking to a first grade teacher and they actually told me unlike the testing grades (3,4,5) where the kids work there butt off to take the tests, and then lose steam and slow down for the rest of the year; kindergarten/first/second is the opposite. They usually work the hardest at the end of the year--now that the kids know the routine, schedules are established, can work more independently, etc.

Just another perspective. I personally wouldn't pull out twice in the same year. I would do the October trip and delay the May one.
 
I also feel that if the teachers can take off for vacations (I understand things come up here or there and they may need a day or two) but consistently we have teachers taking a week off during the school year. So if they can do it, why can't we? I mean, they get 10 weeks off in the summer plus extended time for all the holidays and don't have to worry about driving in snow days. Can't tell you the last time I had a snow day at my office job, my son had 9 this year! Not sure how they are allowed that much vacation but I guess its in their contracts and many do use it. So I don't feel any remorse pulling my son to take full advantage of my measly 3 weeks a year.

Middle School/High School is definitely a whole different ball game though.

The district I teach at, that isn't allowed. Or rather frowned upon. We get 3 personal days. We are only allowed to attach one of them to a school holiday. (It has to be approved by the superintendent). They are super strict about it. If you take off a week, I guarantee (at least in my district) that they are off payroll for the week. If you take more than 3 sick days in a row, they require a doctors note as well. Many of my colleagues have gotten married and delayed their honeymoon to one of the school breaks.
 
I also feel that if the teachers can take off for vacations (I understand things come up here or there and they may need a day or two) but consistently we have teachers taking a week off during the school year. So if they can do it, why can't we? I mean, they get 10 weeks off in the summer plus extended time for all the holidays and don't have to worry about driving in snow days. Can't tell you the last time I had a snow day at my office job, my son had 9 this year! Not sure how they are allowed that much vacation but I guess its in their contracts and many do use it. So I don't feel any remorse pulling my son to take full advantage of my measly 3 weeks a year.

Middle School/High School is definitely a whole different ball game though.

Wow, wish I could do that. I have been out of the classroom one day this year and that was going on a field trip with a group from the school. We get 1 day that is confidential and if we were to try and use "sick days" we could get fired for lying about it.
 
First...I teach middle school math and science. The biggest issue for me is "who is your kid". Sure they won't get everything they would get in the classroom and they will likely suffer from it, but the quality student will pick it up easy enough. I had a 4.0 (All As since 6th grade) student this year, 8th grade, take a week to head to Disneyworld. He hasn't really missed a beat. I think, SURE WHY NOT. Life is about moments.

On the flip side, I had another parent who emails me almost daily about retakes for her son, wanting missing assignments, asking how his behavior is (none of these are obviously screaming scholar) and what do you know ...out for a week for a cruise. Let's reward the kid who shows no effort and no care then have him come back totally lost, needing more time..I think NO WAY!

Oh and the guy about the money....our contract is based on days worked. If I could work more, shorter summer, shorter Christmas break I would. I could always use more money. We don't have the opportunity to work "overtime" so many of us work over the summer to make it work, I actually work year round with another job that takes most my Saturdays and an hour or two a night. I am not complaining and I often tell the kids that in a few years they will be working year round and I will still get summers off should I choose not to work, but with more work you get more money (funny how that works, right). The contract is a 10 month contract, based on days, some people do have their checks spread over 12 months to make budgeting easier on their monthly expenses.
 
My DD is starting K this fall, and we're taking her out for 3 days at the end of Sept. (Our schools are closed for 2 days that week for the Jewish holidays.) We've never had the opportunity to take a fall trip before and we figure that early in the year, in kindergarten, 3 days won't be that big of a deal. It's not something we'll do every year but we have the opportunity this year so we're taking it.
 
Except it doesn't just work that way. If you want that much flexibility then find a private school that works for you or homeschool. There are a handful of public schools who may have the flexibility, but you may have to move to be in their district. There are rules and laws to insure that kids get an education. Sadly, the overall good parents also have to follow these because there are so many bad parents out there.

Know the rules and laws for your school and state. Then make the decision based off of the information you have. Be willing to accept any possible consequences for said decision. It really is as simple as that.

True! Good point!
 
check with the district and the state before making your plans. is a vacation really worth the possibility of being taken to court over missed school? yes it has happened to friends of ours and I am talking about early elem school. and yes they lost the case and children were not taken from them but they were watched closely with that possibilty

This is ridiculous! Their kids could have been taken away for missed school due to family vacation? I can understand if education was not being provided to these children for an extended period of time, but missing a week or 2 for vacation? Not all families can take time off work in the summer and time together making memories as a family is more valuable than missing a week of school--in my humble opinion-- coming from someone who recently lost a very close family member :( .
And I understand you're just the messenger so not directing any of this to you personally. Just speaking in general.
 
I will be taking my 7 year old out of school in either Jan or Feb next year for Disney for 2 weeks. We do not go every year. We do not even vacation every year. We cannot go in the summer due to my husband's job. We do not get to choose, as it depends on when my parents want to go as they are paying for our accommodations. In fact this is the first Disney vacation I have taken in over 20 years, and my husband and children have never been, and may never go again.

If my daughter was struggling, I would find the money to fly down and only take a week. But we would still be going. My mother in law died last October. She was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer and passed within a year. Spending time with grandparents is precious because one never knows which time will be your last.

There is a chance I may be earning another Disney trip a few months later in may. I do not get to choose when that is, it's a group trip and decided for me. If I earn it I'll be taking her out again, but it's over a weekend, I think she'll only miss one, maybe 2 days, as we'll be flying.

As for teacher's vacations, up here, not only is it very frowned upon to take time off during the school year, but teachers have to pay for their subs while they are gone unless it's an emergency or illness. The cost of a substitute teacher for a week is prohibitive enough that few teachers take vacations during the school year. Teachers do not get paid enough, and I have great respect for them, but that does not change my resolve.
 
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That said, I don't understand the statement that they "only get paid when they work". If you make 65K dollars a year and you spread it out over 12 months, you gross a little over 5400 a month,but you still make $65K

If you spread that over 10 months, you gross 6500 a month, BUT YOU STILL MAKE THE SAME $65K.

That is not a valid argument.
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Because their salaries are based on them working only 10 months a year. My DH makes $xx.xx/hr............for 42 weeks out of the year., whatever that comes out to annually. Nobody in their right mind would accept that annual amount if they had to work 52 weeks a year to get it! DH took a HUGE paycut to become a teacher but he knows has to bust his *** those 10 weeks a year to try to make as much $ as possible to make up for the low pay the other 42 weeks
 





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