Question, AKC, CKC, etc., ect.,

[live4christp1]

If we were to purchase a puppy that the seller says is "full-blooded" but it is not registered. Is it possible to register it ourselves? If yes, what do we have to do? Any advice? Info?

Thanks,
Cristy

 

[lisajl]

I believe you have to access to the parents records.
BTW, CKC has a lot of "puppy mill" dogs registered to it.

Good luck with your puppy!

 

[live4christp1]

I believe you have to access to the parents records.
BTW, CKC has a lot of "puppy mill" dogs registered to it.

Good luck with your puppy!

Thanks! Someone had said AKC was better. DS wants a husky. Found a beautiful one online, only problem he's in Texas. Someone local has some but they are not registered.

Anyone know how important registration is anyway?????

 

[mjkacmom]

Thanks! Someone had said AKC was better. DS wants a husky. Found a beautiful one online, only problem he's in Texas. Someone local has some but they are not registered.

Anyone know how important registration is anyway?????

Registration does not certify the puppy is healthy, and not from a puppy mill (my AKC registered min-pin was definitely a puppy mill dog). A good breeder will not advertise online - most likely a mill, at best a backyard breeder.

 

[live4christp1]

Registration does not certify the puppy is healthy, and not from a puppy mill (my AKC registered min-pin was definitely a puppy mill dog). A good breeder will not advertise online - most likely a mill, at best a backyard breeder.

That's what I am afraid of. I'd like to personally see where the dogs are kept, living conditions, etc. Have found someone local who has 4 males. DH and I plan to go by and see them. They are not registered, advertised in local paper.....could still be mill.

What are questions I should ask?

I know......
Have they been vet checked?
Health guarantee?
Wormed?
Shots?

What else?

We had a cocker once from a back yard breeder and I think they were inbreeding them to much.....she never got very big and was not smart at all. Our other cocker was so smart, he just knew things, didn't have to teach him, sadly he developed stomach cancer and had to be put down.

 

[lisajl]

Are you planning on breeding this dog? If not, I would not worry about paperwork. I would worry if the dog has been to a vet. Did they give vacc? Do they have proof of Vaccines? Ask about a health guarantee. What all does it include? Ask to see the parents, ask about any health issues that are associated with huskies. Ask how good they are for a family.
If they are a good breeder, reputable breeder they will be happy to answer these questions for you. Yes, they want to sell their dogs, but they want them to go to a good home and the right home.
If you are set on a husky (my son wants one too, but no way..we have cats), check out a site online. I think it is under AKC or Purina where you plug in info about the kind of dog you want, what lifestyle you have and if it will work out for you.
Good luck.

Here's one site http://www.k9country.com/perl/dogBreed.pl

 

[daisax]

The main thing to look for is that the dog is well bred, meaning CAREFULLY bred. The pedigree is only meaningful insofar as the names on the paper mean something to people who know the breed. They can look at a pedigree of a puppy from parents they've never seen, but know 2 of the 4 grandparents and dozens of the other dogs on the pedigree. They know them because they've seen them, they watched them grow up, they know what they eventually died from, if they were friendly, if they were spooky, if they were gorgeous puppies who achieved their championships early but can barely walk at 4 years old, etc. That's the true use of a pedigree.

A good breeder will know if 1 of the grandparents of the prospective litter has temperament issues that make selection of a mate with super stability more important than other objectives. They will know that one of the sides of the family has cancer issues, or joint issues, and seek a breeding that brings in generations of dogs tested and clear for that issue.

The problem with people who don't show and don't do health testing (a simple vet check is not sufficient -- most breeds require hundreds of dollars in pre-breeding health clearances done, sometimes annually. EKGs, echocardiograms, hip and knee x-rays, blood testing, etc.) is that they don't know WHAT mixture they're coming up with.

The appearance of health is no guarantee that the offspring will be healthy at the age of 2 or 3. A breeder who can show you pictures of the grandparents and great grandparents of the litters (or introduce you to the dogs themselves) running around at 6-10 years old and older, and evidence that she is actively seeking out signs of health issues and not breeding such dogs is offering a better bet.

Remember -- all puppies are adorable. This will be a member of your family for a significant part of your life -- it's worth a few extra months to find the best possible match.

This is one of the best website resources on dogs I know of -- enjoy researching!

http://dogplay.com/GettingDog/index.html

 

[daisax]

And to answer the OP's question, no, you cannot register a puppy whose parents are not registered with the AKC. (You may be able to with one of the puppy mill registries that cropped up so the mills can claim their dogs have "papers" -- this was done either because they lost AKC privileges or don't want to bother meeting the minimal AKC paperwork)

AKC isn't perfect, but somebody who is actively showing their dogs in competition is at least looking for outside confirmation that their dogs are superior.

Papers aren't particularly meaningful in and of themselves for pets, except as a kind of canine genealogy for sentimental purposes, or to give the ability to participate in AKC activities like obedience/agility, etc. However, somebody who isn't even bothering to meet the minimal standards to register their dogs probably is also shortchanging the eventual litter in terms of knowing what they're doing and being careful about the choices they make.