Question about TSA precheck and documents needed.

[jo-jo]

Ahhh Ok.

So who do you think is responsible in your case--the County or the church?

I can't remember if you've said before why the County didn't have record of it if it was because they lost it or it was damaged or never digitalized (if your County does that). The one you had before was it considered a certified copy/official one?

The church would have to provide you with a certified copy anyways in orderfor it to work rather than just an unofficial or souvenir style one.

Sorry just can't remember all the details for your situation

I don't know who is responsible. County says they don't have a records but at that time, they were hand written (or so I'm told). Maybe it was put down on table, clerk went to lunch, and papers were moved while they were away.

But since I did change my name on tons of stuff, I must have had a "good' copy at some point. But I don't really remember. Again talking decades here.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I don't know who is responsible. County says they don't have a records but at that time, they were hand written (or so I'm told). Maybe it was put down on table, clerk went to lunch, and papers were moved while they were away.

But since I did change my name on tons of stuff, I must have had a "good' copy at some point. But I don't really remember. Again talking decades here.

Yeah I can imagine how hard it would be after enough time has passed to try and track it down or remember what you did in the past.

 

[Searc]

It must not be too unusual of a situation. It was a county clerk that told me to apply for a passport vs Read ID since the documentation isn't needed.

Except it is needed, for both a passport and Real ID.

 

[Searc]

I suspect the reason it worked for you is because you've never held a passport (card or full book) before.

IF you had previously been issued a passport (card or full book) and it was in your maiden name on it you would have to provide proof of the name change to get a passport in your married name. That is a requirement well outside of REAL ID.

When I went through getting a passport in my married name vs my maiden name (which was used to go on our honeymoon) I had to mail off my prior passport and a certified copy of my marriage license to reflect the name change and the reason for the name change from my maiden to other name.

When I got my passport, I had to prove why my birth certificate was different than my current legal name ~ hence, my marriage license.

 

[jo-jo]

When I got my passport, I had to prove why my birth certificate was different than my current legal name ~ hence, my marriage license.

I don't know what to say. I can only say, a county clerk suggested I go this route and so far it seems to be working. I tried going through the system. This is what I was told to try.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

When I got my passport, I had to prove why my birth certificate was different than my current legal name ~ hence, my marriage license.

Online it doesn't reflect that as a requirement for first time passport card holders. I can see it being asked by the person putting together the documents (like you were) as it's usually the safest bet is obviously to be able to have the certified copy of the marriage license as that is the easiest route to go to have on hand but the two forms ask for different info.

First time passport card/full book requests get form DS-11, those needing a name change with an existing passport or those eligible for renewal use form DS-82. DS-82 form does require and list a certified copy of a marriage certificate for proof of name change. DS-11 just asks questions regarding the marriage the date, the place, and the spouse's name, etc when you answer the question Yes to being married. Proof of citizenship normally for first time is birth certificate. Proof of citizenship normally (or at least I would assume) for name change or renewal would be an existing passport.

 

[Searc]

Online it doesn't reflect that as a requirement for first time passport card holders. I can see it being asked by the person putting together the documents (like you were) as it's usually the safest bet is obviously to be able to have the certified copy of the marriage license as that is the easiest route to go to have on hand but the two forms ask for different info.

First time passport card/full book requests get form DS-11, those needing a name change with an existing passport or those eligible for renewal use form DS-82. DS-82 form does require and list a certified copy of a marriage certificate for proof of name change. DS-11 just asks questions regarding the marriage the date, the place, and the spouse's name, etc when you answer the question Yes to being married. Proof of citizenship normally for first time is birth certificate. Proof of citizenship normally (or at least I would assume) for name change or renewal would be an existing passport.

We just renewed our passports a few weeks ago. All we needed to send in was a check and our current passports to be cancelled. I had already proven my name change and citizenship with my initial passport, so I did not need to do it again.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

We just renewed our passports a few weeks ago. All we needed to send in was a check and our current passports to be cancelled. I had already proven my name change and citizenship with my initial passport, so I did not need to do it again.

In regards to what you sent and what I had to send it's because my initial passport when I got it was in my maiden name. When my passport is up for renewal this next time I won't have to do anything else but pay the fee and send in my existing passport like you mentioned you had to do.

That's why I prefaced my earlier comment regarding if the OP had an existing passport card/full book in their maiden name (which is what mine was) to change that they would need to provide documentation as to why which in this case would be the marriage license. First time vs renewal vs name change on existing are different processes from what I understand.

 

[jo-jo]

Well, while waiting for my passport to show up, I was looking at TSA precheck.

This statement seems to seal my doom as far as getting precheck.

Do the names (first, middle, last) on your identity documents match (ex. driver’s license and birth certificate)? For Example:

• Answer NO if your driver’s license has your married name and your birth certificate has your maiden name. In this example, you must provide a marriage certificate that links the name on the birth certificate to the name on the driver’s license. In some cases, multiple name change documents are necessary to link identity documents.

Oh, well, at least I can get ON a plane come Nov.



Edited at add......Maybe still hope....my DD believes she ONLY brought her passport to get her TSA precheck.

 

[NotUrsula]

Pennsylvania is an odd duck, because they don't send marriage records to the state recorder's office, but Philadelphia has had no records catastrophes. Their records go back to 1885.

What *could* be throwing things off is if you are requesting a copy of your "marriage license", and the clerk took that specifically to mean the license. What they do is certify a copy of the recorded marriage information; that has the same effect legally.

This is the proper procedure for obtaining a certified copy of a marriage record for a marriage that took place in Philadelphia: http://secureprod.phila.gov/wills/marriagerecordinfo.aspx

 

[Allison]

dited at add......Maybe still hope....my DD believes she ONLY brought her passport to get her TSA precheck.

I think that is correct. If you walk through the process of determining what information to bring and select "passport"-that is all you need to bring. If you select drivers license or another form of identification, it will prompt for a second form of id.

 

[jo-jo]

Pennsylvania is an odd duck, because they don't send marriage records to the state recorder's office, but Philadelphia has had no records catastrophes. Their records go back to 1885.

What *could* be throwing things off is if you are requesting a copy of your "marriage license", and the clerk took that specifically to mean the license. What they do is certify a copy of the recorded marriage information; that has the same effect legally.

This is the proper procedure for obtaining a certified copy of a marriage record for a marriage that took place in Philadelphia: http://secureprod.phila.gov/wills/marriagerecordinfo.aspx

Thank you for your effort, but I had gone through that. Spoke with a few people there. They were the ones that mentioned go back to the church, maybe they have a copy or check with surrounding counties, maybe I was mistaken where it was filed.

 

[bcla]

That's why I applied for a passport card. Easy enough to carry and I only need it a few times a year at most. I have no plans of leaving the county, so it works for me.

Real ID asks for documents I don't have and don't know how to get them. Neither church nor court has copy of marriage license. Can't prove change of name change to Real ID.

Once you have a passport or passport card in your preferred name, that should be enough to get a Real ID compliant driver license. You will need proof of SSN and two proofs of residences since that's the DHS requirement for Real ID. There shouldn't be a reason you won't be able to do that once your DL is up for renewal. I think it's a good idea to have that. Especially if you renew that passport card and don't have it available during that time.

 

[bcla]

Pennsylvania is an odd duck, because they don't send marriage records to the state recorder's office, but Philadelphia has had no records catastrophes. Their records go back to 1885.

What *could* be throwing things off is if you are requesting a copy of your "marriage license", and the clerk took that specifically to mean the license. What they do is certify a copy of the recorded marriage information; that has the same effect legally.

This is the proper procedure for obtaining a certified copy of a marriage record for a marriage that took place in Philadelphia: http://secureprod.phila.gov/wills/marriagerecordinfo.aspx

There are a lot of different ways that governments do this. NYC has its own marriage bureau and doesn't send anything to the state like other cities in New York state. Our California marriage certificate was sent to the state, but there's a 9 year gap where the state simply doesn't issue certified copies for whatever reason.

I think legally a marriage license is used to get married. Once everything is signed and filed it's considered a marriage certificate. Mine is on a standard form at the time (before SSM) and on the top it says "LICENSE AND CERTIFICATE OF MARRIAGE".

 

[Pembo]

Could I ask what documents you brought? I'm wondering if passport card and DL is enough. SS card needed?

I needed my current drivers license, birth certificate and marriage license. Didn't need the SS card.

 

[focusondisney]

Edited at add......Maybe still hope....my DD believes she ONLY brought her passport to get her TSA precheck.

When we got our Precheck a few years ago, I brought my passport plus my real ID driver’s license & 2nd ID. (I had to use my birth certificate & marriage license to get the real ID a few years before.) The agent just used the passport & said it was the best option. Good luck!

 

[Disney Doll]

As for TSA Pre-Check. I almost always get it when I fly, and I have never signed up for it. Until that stops, and until I see a reason for it, I don't see a reason to actually pay for it.

The random one is stopping shortly, if it hasn’t already.

We just applied for it and got it in time for our recent WDW trip. In conversing with the JetBlue agent while checking in (small airport no kiosks) she commented that we were smart to do it now because the powers that be realized that they were giving away something for free that people would pay for.

It was pretty easy. Fill out the form. Bring your passport and drivers license. I brought our marriage certificate too, just in case I needed to prove my name change. Fingerprints. $85 each. A week or so later I got my #.

And it’s worth spending $85 to be able to travel with less hassle for 5 years.

 

[tvguy]

The random one is stopping shortly, if it hasn’t already.

We just applied for it and got it in time for our recent WDW trip. In conversing with the JetBlue agent while checking in (small airport no kiosks) she commented that we were smart to do it now because the powers that be realized that they were giving away something for free that people would pay for.

It was pretty easy. Fill out the form. Bring your passport and drivers license. I brought our marriage certificate too, just in case I needed to prove my name change. Fingerprints. $85 each. A week or so later I got my #.

And it’s worth spending $85 to be able to travel with less hassle for 5 years.

We flew in October and got the random TSA Pre both ways. I think part of it is to manage the wait at the regular TSA side. There is rarely more than one person in the TSA-Pre line here in Sacramento. Kind of a waste of TSA staff if not enough people are using it.

 

[bcla]

We flew in October and got the random TSA Pre both ways. I think part of it is to manage the wait at the regular TSA side. There is rarely more than one person in the TSA-Pre line here in Sacramento. Kind of a waste of TSA staff if not enough people are using it.

The only time when I was directed there was when it was almost empty, and a few times where our child was under 5. Once I thought we would miss our flight (a domestic flight at the SFO International Terminal), but they immediately directed us to the PreCheck line.

 

[Ellie008]

I got pre-check without paying for it one time. My parents on the other hand, used to get it almost every time they flew. Lately it is more hit or miss for them. I do think they are scaling back giving it for free at most airports since the precheck line is being used more by people who have paid for it.