Question about the advertising banners that appear on this page

[npmommie]

I can't wait for tomorrow.
I am getting in that truck and goin for that ride

 

[DisneyKevin]

we are also known by the type of company we are resonsible for.

I'm not sure I understand this.

poor choices in content can and will reflect back on those responsible. no one was saying that your reputation or anyone associated with you for that matter was in any danger of reputation damage

I dont think anyone was concerned about their reputation being in question.

I certainly wasnt.

I was just asking as you used the the phrase "if my reputation was at stake" and I was curious about who's reputation you were concerned about.

Also...this isnt considered content. It's an advertisement.

just saying i would like to have control over all content if it was me.

I'm certain that if this was a concern to anyone...it would have already been addressed

 

[AshleyW]

I'm pretty sure that none of the major advertising syndicates rely on keywords for categorizing advertisements. They rely on keywords for determining relevance to the specific page, but in terms of categorization, itself, I am pretty sure that that is a deliberate, human operation, i.e., some real person is responsible for determining whether an advertisement is political or not, is sexually explicit or not, etc. There are very good reasons why such things are not left up to keywords, even though the actual determination of what advertisement to present on a specific page does rely on keywords.

I was going to say that that's what I was trying to say, but I checked... that's pretty-much exactly what I said.

Yeah, it was. I was trying to re-word the rest of it so it would be easier for dalt01 to understand. Wasn't trying to be a copy-cat, promise.

Who's reputation is at stake?

Google ads are bundled...as has been explained.

That being said...the ads can also be random.

Unacceptable ads have slipped through occasionally.

If you see an objectionable ad...email webmaster@wdwinfo.com...as was suggested earlier.

The ads at the top or bottom of your screen help subsidize your opportunity to discuss the ads at the top or bottom of your screen.

Ding ding ding. Personally, I don't care WHAT ads show up on the DISboards - as long as the DIS is around for them to show up on.

 

[dalt01]

Yeah, it was. I was trying to re-word the rest of it so it would be easier for dalt01 to understand.

i may not agree with you guys take on this subject but i assure you i am not an idiot and i see no reason for you to make fun of me. that is the true test of character isnt it..............

 

[dalt01]

anything visable on the site from smilies to blogs to threads to advertising is part of the content of the site and falls under the responsibility of the owner of the site. if for example someone advertises where the next Ku Klux Klan meeting is going to be held he better be prepared to defend himself. that is content.( i dont know why the darn quote thingy didnt work)

 

[AshleyW]

i may not agree with you guys take on this subject but i assure you i am not an idiot and i see no reason for you to make fun of me. that is the true test of character isnt it..............

I wasn't making fun of you, sorry if you took it that way. You stated earlier you weren't following what bicker was explaining:

if i am misunderstanding anything it is because the way you are presenting it isnt getting through to me.

So I was trying to present what he said in a different way.

 

[DisneyKevin]

anything visable on the site from smilies to blogs to threads to advertising is part of the content of the site and falls under the responsibility of the owner of the site. if for example someone advertises where the next Ku Klux Klan meeting is going to be held he better be prepared to defend himself. that is content.( i dont know why the darn quote thingy didnt work)

Again....we're arguing semantics.

Apparently, the owner is okay with the content of the advertisements.

If you feel that the advertisements are inappropriate, write to webmaster@wdwinfo.com.

 

[dalt01]

Again....we're arguing semantics.

Apparently, the owner is okay with the content of the advertisements.

If you feel that the advertisements are inappropriate, write to webmaster@wdwinfo.com.

sorry about the lag time i had to drive home from work. i keep saying im going to give up the 12 hour days but never do it.......................first, i did not know we were arguing..............second, im sure he is or he would raise hell just as i would. i have no doubt that it is watched closely. third, if you go back a couple pages you will see where i stated that i never saw the offending advertisement. i have never seen an inappropriate add here, all i wanted was a good spirited discussion, which i got. i am in the automobile business and i have to be very careful what i say in adds and how i say it. it is very regulated by the state so i am very leery of content thats all. i am only over here cause there was nothing at all going on over at the podcast board. i should know better, this is a pretty fast crowd.........

 

[DisneyKevin]

sorry about the lag time i had to drive home from work. i keep saying im going to give up the 12 hour days but never do it.......................first, i did not know we were arguing..............second, im sure he is or he would raise hell just as i would. i have no doubt that it is watched closely. third, if you go back a couple pages you will see where i stated that i never saw the offending advertisement. i have never seen an inappropriate add here, all i wanted was a good spirited discussion, which i got. i am in the automobile business and i have to be very careful what i say in adds and how i say it. it is very regulated by the state so i am very leery of content thats all. i am only over here cause there was nothing at all going on over at the podcast board. i should know better, this is a pretty fast crowd.........

As long as we're using ordinal numbers....

First....I think I like thinking I'm part of the "fast" crowd.

Second.....I used "arguing" interchangeably with discussing.

Third....the ads really are bundled.

Fourth.....I dont have a fourth and I'm going to watch Big Bang Theory on TiVo and eat chcocolate.

 

[dalt01]

As long as we're using ordinal numbers....

First....I think I like thinking I'm part of the "fast" crowd.

Second.....I used "arguing" interchangeably with discussing.

Third....the ads really are bundled.

Fourth.....I dont have a fourth and I'm going to watch Big Bang Theory on TiVo and eat chcocolate.

i am having a cup of Donut Shop from my Keurig eating cheez its and watching "24" which i DVR'd,,,,,,,,,,LOL.........good nite.

 

[kaytieeldr]

Okay, at 2:30 AM, one candidate's banner ads are proclaiming, "There's still time to vote. Polls are open until 8:00 PM". Absolutely. They sure are. But they're not open YET. It's 2:30 in the morning!!!! I can just see printing a screen capture and going to the City Clerk's house (because, surprisingly, they're not in the office at this hour) or even better, the police sergeant responsible for 'my' polling place, and saying, "But I want to vote NOW! This candidate says I can!!!"

 

[FireDancer]

Ok, those of you who do not want to see ANY ads on the top of this page it is simple:

Step 1: Use Firefox as your browser

Step 2: Install the following add ons:
No Script (and block the scripting for googlesyndication.com
Ad-Block Plus

Step 3: Enjoy no ads

Google provides ads based on a proprietary (and unknown to anyone outside of Google) algorithm that most likely uses key words, search history, geo-specific information, and other criteria. In a perfect world a site can pick and choose every single ad they see. In the world in which we live you have far less control over what is on your page.

If the Dis has a problem with the ad content they will take it up with Google. If you have a problem with the ad content you can block it quite easily.

 

[bicker]

ya just keep drawing me back in...

I'm like an addiction, I know.

if that were true

It is true, in the circumstances I outlined.

in small business reputation is everything

Not in the manner you imply. The reputation that matters is the business' reputation doing what it says it does, in the case of the DIS, from the members' standpoint, that's providing a place to have discussions. The advertising that they rely on to justify giving us this service free isn't something that affects their reputation.

Also, never forget that The DIS' true "customers" are the site sponsors. It's like on television: The viewers are part of the system, no question, but broadcasters are essentially selling the viewers to the advertisers. It's a hard, cold way of looking at it -- and someone inside the system wouldn't explain it that way because it makes them look predatory -- but it is the reality of the situation from a business standpoint.

most users fully understand what???????????

That Pete doesn't sit around all day deciding which specific ads to insert onto pages.

i have been in retail all my life and these are thing i know.

Sorry, but this is something you evidently don't know much about.

 

[bicker]

I'm not sure I understand this. I dont think anyone was concerned about their reputation being in question. I certainly wasnt. I was just asking as you used the the phrase "if my reputation was at stake" and I was curious about who's reputation you were concerned about.

I do believe that even bringing up the issue in those terms is really just a form of misdirection. The word "reputation" carries with it such emotional baggage, that it typically is just a tool for deceiving casual readers into thinking something bad when there is no foundation underlying the assertions in that regard.

 

[bicker]

Yeah, it was. I was trying to re-word the rest of it so it would be easier for dalt01 to understand. Wasn't trying to be a copy-cat, promise.

Hehe... sometimes there is simply no way to make something clearer...

Ding ding ding. Personally, I don't care WHAT ads show up on the DISboards - as long as the DIS is around for them to show up on.

To be fair, I think if Google started sending us some of the explicit ads, with nudity and such (and yes, they're in the system, for some syndicates), then it would be a bigger issue. I suspect, however, that Google makes categorization mistakes regarding explicit material much less often than they make other categorization mistakes.

 

[bicker]

anything visable on the site from smilies to blogs to threads to advertising is part of the content of the site and falls under the responsibility of the owner of the site.

Since you've been mistaken about so much in this thread, I thought it was really important to highlight when you've said something that is indeed correct. This is one of those things. Whether the mistake is on the part of the principal or a sub-contractor doesn't matter.

However, part of what folks have been trying to help you understand is that mistakes happen, and mistakes are not the kind of transgression that you're trying to make them sound like, that stain a reputation. Isolated, infrequent mistakes do not stain a reputation. Anyone who judges anyone or anything on the basis of such outliers is applying unreasonable expectations -- a behavior that does stain a reputation.

Do note, however, that in this case, even that isn't relevant. The Posting Guidelines ban political discussions posted by members. The rules do not ban political advertising presented by the site itself. Those rules apply to us, the people who post. They do not apply to anything else. It is an error in judgment to pervert the intent of the Posting Guidelines to imply that they are applicable to anything other than what they actually apply to. Indeed, the owners, if they want, could legitimately and without fear of legitimate criticism, deliberately use this website to project their personal political beliefs.

 

[mill4023]

i would think that Mr Werner or one of his partners would decide what is acceptable advertising.

I'm not following. You say "i would think". Then you say it's a fact?
It's a fact that Mr. Werner decides that or it's a fact that you think that?

I'm guessing those who run the board do decide what is acceptable advertising. But they decide at a general level and do not get to the level of detail of reviewing every ad that is served up by google.

It's their choice. If they wanted to, they could choose to sell advertising directly to advertisers and they would then get to decide which ads are acceptable and which are not. In fact, they do some of that. At the very top of the community board, I see a banner ad that rotates between Owner's Locker, Dreams Unlimited, and Orlando Stroller Rental. These appear to be ads that the DIS sold to these companies.

But they also choose to use Google ads and with Google ads, as it's been mentioned, you have certain choices about what kind of ads you will get, but you do not get to approve every single ad. With thousands or hundreds of thousands of possible adds, this business model makes it impractical and impossible to review every ad.

 

[kaytieeldr]

I'm guessing those who run the board do decide what is acceptable advertising. But they decide at a general level and do not get to the level of detail of reviewing every ad that is served up by google.

Thank you. That's the point several posters have been trying to make.

 

[kaytieeldr]

I dunno, bicker - I think as long as "those" ads appear (and I'm seeing one right now, as I type this response), the horse isn't beaten to death yet Maybe the Moderators can close it at 8 tonight?

 

[Missy1961]

I'm wondering if those political ads show up if you're in the area that they are targeting--because I haven't seen one of them, and I'm in NY, not MA.