Question about gratuity not included...

[jenfur]

I have seen one post that stated something like a party of six could eat a $300 and get a bill for $54 gratuity. Is that how it would work? I have no problem paying the whole 18% per meal but it would be a little weird just be billed for a tip.

 

[2poohbears]

I think at most restaurants if you have a larger party (6 or more) the restaurant will automatically add in an 18% gratuity. (This is done in most restaurants I've eaten in, not just at WDW). I can't imagine they would do that with a family of 4.

 

[paulh]

think that all dinning plans will have an automatic 18% tip presented to them.Plus if you use the DDE card not just partys of 6 of more.
Soon find out when new details announced shortly
Paulh

 

[bicker]

That would make the most sense to me.

 

[JimMIA]

think that all dinning plans will have an automatic 18% tip presented to them.Plus if you use the DDE card not just partys of 6 of more.
Soon find out when new details announced shortly
Paulh

The union contract says that 18% gratuity will be added to all parties of 6 or more (cash, meal plan, everybody), and all DDE checks.

The DDP brochure also says 18% added for all parties of 6 or more, plus all checks for non-DDP covered items like appys, adult beverages, etc.

I agree with the previous poster -- I don't expect to see a gratuity added on groups of less than 6 unless they are using the DDE card.

 

[battricia]

so if you're on the DDP and have more than 6 in your party, how are they going to 'charge' you, since you're not really paying for it then and there. Are they going to hand you a bill, what if you had LOUSY service? Are you going to dispute it? I've never traveled/dined with that many people but i'm curious how that works.

tricia.

 

[bigbabyblues]

so if you're on the DDP and have more than 6 in your party, how are they going to 'charge' you, since you're not really paying for it then and there. Are they going to hand you a bill, what if you had LOUSY service? Are you going to dispute it? I've never traveled/dined with that many people but i'm curious how that works.

tricia.

I don't know, we don't travel with large parties either, but I would dispute it. If the service is lousy, the server does not deserve 18% regardless. I understand that serving is hard work, but if they don't do anything other than bring food, they don't get that much of a tip.

 

[CarolA]

I don't know, we don't travel with large parties either, but I would dispute it. If the service is lousy, the server does not deserve 18% regardless. I understand that serving is hard work, but if they don't do anything other than bring food, they don't get that much of a tip.

I have disputed tips before.

However, this post has me confused...What do you want them to do besides "bring food" Dance, entertain you? If you mean they don't refill beverages etc. that's one thing but if the food/beverages etc are served in a timely and professional manner then they deserve the tip. (I have also seen some jerks dispute it for "nothing" just to "stiff" the server. One family at a resturant in Birmigham AL disputed it because "the food wasn't all served at the same time" Now while that SOUNDS good what they FAILED to mention was that ONE member of thier party arrived AFTER everyone else had been served and then placed his order.... IDIOTS!)

 

[chrismb22]

This happens all the time -- the adding of a tip to parties of 6 or more .You can always change it -- just ask your server and the'll do it for you. If it's for less, you might have to see the manager.

Once I took 10 people out on a work function and these people were really annoying. I stopped the server after and asked about where to put the tip and she told me it was already on there. I then said I wanted to change it. The poor server looked like she was going to cry. I then told her I wanted to add MORE cause she had to deal with all these annoying clients of mine. (They were really annoying.) It wasn't a big deal at all.

And I know you don't HAVE to tip on taxes but I always just figure it out on the whole bill. It's much easier that way and only comes to a couple dollars more.

 

[CarolA]

so if you're on the DDP and have more than 6 in your party, how are they going to 'charge' you, since you're not really paying for it then and there. Are they going to hand you a bill, what if you had LOUSY service? Are you going to dispute it? I've never traveled/dined with that many people but i'm curious how that works.

tricia.

The food is rung up at the menu prices. YOu are charged !8% of that. If you look at a DDP receipt now there are TWO "cash register total tapes" (Not sure what you really call them) One with the zero charge and one with the total meal plus the CURRENT tip. If you are NOT a party of six or more you should look at the one with the real prices and tip based on that not the zero bill.

 

[CarolA]

Once I took 10 people out on a work function and these people were really annoying. I stopped the server after and asked about where to put the tip and she told me it was already on there. I then said I wanted to change it. The poor server looked like she was going to cry. I then told her I wanted to add MORE cause she had to deal with all these annoying clients of mine. (They were really annoying.) It wasn't a big deal at all.

.

OMG... I think you were out with my co-worker. I have one co-worker where I always pick up the tab and tip extra just for the "wait staff" abuse! SHe's a JERK in real life and it REALLY comes out when dealing with those she consideres "beneath" her. I generally get berated all the way back to the hotel because "you tip too much"

And it's things like "the water glass has 1" of water gone" It's like she expects V&A type service at Applebees!!!! (Plus her meat must be burned to a crisp. Most resturants do not automatically char grill your steak until it resembles the shoe leather!)

 

[rangerfan94]

TIPS......To Insure Prompt Service......Being billed 18% for a party of less than 6 automatically would really piss me off.By the way I usually give at least 20% for good service.

 

[n2mm]

Thinking out loud, maybe since the servers will have your room key, do you think that the tips and extras may be added to your room and you will pay at the end of your trip?? That way folks won't have to carry extra tip money.

 

[Family5LovesDisney]

Thinking out loud, maybe since the servers will have your room key, do you think that the tips and extras may be added to your room and you will pay at the end of your trip?? That way folks won't have to carry extra tip money.

I hope we can do that. It would sure make it easier to just use that one card for everything!

 

[paulh]

Thinking out loud, maybe since the servers will have your room key, do you think that the tips and extras may be added to your room and you will pay at the end of your trip?? That way folks won't have to carry extra tip money.

if you dont tip and they then take it off you via room key , think there steping into a legal minfield.
JimMIA thought that an 18% gratuity will be added to all dinning plans.the 6 or more was for everone who not on a plan.Have been unable to read contract as not been posted on unions web site yet.but if you have seen one i bow too your beter judement
Paulh

 

[kaytieeldr]

TIPS......To Insure Prompt Service......Being billed 18% for a party of less than 6 automatically would really piss me off.By the way I usually give at least 20% for good service.

That's a pseudo-acronym that was 'assigned' long after the term and the practice came into existence. Common sense: How does leaving money AFTER the meal - and service - 'insure prompt service' DURING the meal?

 

[bicker]

Thanks for pointing that out Kaytieeldr.

Automatically adding gratuities isn't going to end up being a big issue. People hemmed and hawed about it when Carnival Cruise Line started doing it in the Gulf a decade agao, and now it is standard practice in the industry, and applied even more stringently at Carnival than before. The resistance of the change, if they choose to make such a change, will blow over.

 

[bigbabyblues]

I have disputed tips before.

However, this post has me confused...What do you want them to do besides "bring food" Dance, entertain you? If you mean they don't refill beverages etc. that's one thing but if the food/beverages etc are served in a timely and professional manner then they deserve the tip. (I have also seen some jerks dispute it for "nothing" just to "stiff" the server. One family at a resturant in Birmigham AL disputed it because "the food wasn't all served at the same time" Now while that SOUNDS good what they FAILED to mention was that ONE member of thier party arrived AFTER everyone else had been served and then placed his order.... IDIOTS!)

The particular server in mind brought our drinks, took our orders, and brought our bill. Someone else brought our food (apparently from the kitchen, that was ok), and I had to grab another server twice for drink refills and something my DS needed (don't remember what now, clean fork probably) because our server was nowhere to be found. It was all of the tables he was taking care of, not just us. He didn't check on us at all during the hour and a half we were in the restuarant.

Didn't mean to be confusing, sorry!

 

[mgilmer]

TIPS......To Insure Prompt Service......Being billed 18% for a party of less than 6 automatically would really piss me off.By the way I usually give at least 20% for good service.

Actually that is incorrect. See below:

From http://money.cnn.com/2001/10/07/pf/tipping/ --

In 1972, George Foster, Professor Emeritus of Anthropology at UC Berkeley, looked at the origins of words meaning "tip" or "gratuity" in several languages. He found that, frequently, it evolved from 'drink money' -- supporting the idea that the practice began in eating establishments. Foster theorized that tipping started with a desire to avoid envy on the part of the server and to send the message that the server should have a drink at the customer's expense.

The origin of the word English word "tip" is less clear. One popular theory says it's is an acronym of "to insure promptness." Jesse Sheidlower, Principal Editor in North America for the Oxford English Dictionary, says that's wrong, because acronyms weren't popular in English until the 1920s. "'Tip," says Sheidlower, "began as a verb in the seventeenth century, used in the language of thieves, meaning 'to give'." By the early eighteenth century, the meaning included "to give a gratuity to a servant or employee".

 

[JimMIA]

JimMIA thought that an 18% gratuity will be added to all dinning plans.the 6 or more was for everone who not on a plan.Have been unable to read contract as not been posted on unions web site yet.but if you have seen one i bow too your beter judement
Paulh

I think you may have misunderstood me.

The union contract says 18% will be added to ALL checks for parties of 6 or more regardless of how they are paying for their meal. Even if the party is staying offsite and paying cash, if there are six or more of them, they are going to have 18% added. 18% will also be added to ALL Disney Dining Experience card bills, regardless of how many there are in the party.

I don't see any huge legal issues with adding the gratuity to a check. It's plainly advertised on the menu (and on applicable marketing pieces like the new 2008 DDP brochure), and it's clearly indicated on the check. It's certainly not like it's a hidden charge.