Queen Elizabeth funeral and looking forward

[Turn the Page]

Regent??? Can you explain more?

Basically, someone who rules in the sovereign's name until the sovereign comes of age.

Like a guardian for a minor child.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Yes with a Regent. Probably Prince Andrew or Edward.

Why Andrew or Edward when Harry is above them in the line of succession? (That would be interesting, wouldn’t it?)

It is one of the reasons the family is supposed to be split up when traveling and things like that.

Perhaps we’ll see more attention paid to that now between King Charles and Prince William.

This past summer there were some raised eyebrows when William and his whole family flew in a helicopter together going on vacation somewhere. (ETA I linked an article below)

 

[anniemae]

Yeah, I wondered if this whole thing wouldn't turn into a superspreader. The only masks I saw were on the Chinese delegation. But ten days of receptions, walkabouts, the queue (I did see a handful of people in the Hall with masks), services, etc. It's likely there was a lot of spread.

I guess we will see what happens in the next few days. I was wondering about the crowds of people lining the route and waiting in line, but they were mostly outside so they are likely safer.

 

[Skywalker]

Why Andrew or Edward when Harry is above them in the line of succession? (That would be interesting, wouldn’t it?

Yes I thought I read a regent, if necessary, would be whoever is next in line to the throne who is over the age of 21. Which would be Harry right?

 

[Jangles]

Yes I thought I read a regent, if necessary, would be whoever is next in line to the throne who is over the age of 21. Which would be Harry right?

Hmmm, I wonder if this is something that the King will address sooner rather than later. Princess Ann would make a very good regent. Please God that the family isn’t hit by tragedy.

 

[Turn the Page]

Yes I thought I read a regent, if necessary, would be whoever is next in line to the throne who is over the age of 21. Which would be Harry right?

I think usually, that is the case, yes. But given that Harry isn't a working royal I wonder if it wouldn't be Edward or Anne. Actually, Andrew would be next in line after Harry's kids but he also is not a working royal anymore so I'm not sure how that would work.

Hopefully we never have to find out.

 

[OnceUponATime15]

Hmmm, I wonder if this is something that the King will address sooner rather than later. Princess Ann would make a very good regent. Please God that the family isn’t hit by tragedy.

While Anne would certainly make a good regent.. she’s so far down in the line of succession to be considered.

The current line puts Harry at the front .. with George, Charlotte, & Louis all too young for many more years - Harry is fifth in line to the throne.

 

[SirDuff]

Yes I thought I read a regent, if necessary, would be whoever is next in line to the throne who is over the age of 21. Which would be Harry right?

In theory, but the regent also has to be a UK resident.

 

[mumto3girls]

Unless Harry would want to return to the UK, it seems like Anne or Edward would be the best options if George would become King before he is 21 or possibly one of Andrew’s daughters. I doubt too many would want to see Andrew in that role.

 

[CdnCarrie]

Why Andrew or Edward when Harry is above them in the line of succession? (That would be interesting, wouldn’t it?)

It is one of the reasons the family is supposed to be split up when traveling and things like that.

Perhaps we’ll see more attention paid to that now between King Charles and Prince William.

This past summer there were some raised eyebrows when William and his whole family flew in a helicopter together going on vacation somewhere.

Yes I thought I read a regent, if necessary, would be whoever is next in line to the throne who is over the age of 21. Which would be Harry right?

Right. Not sure what I was thinking. Of course it would be Harry.

 

[CdnCarrie]

Unless Harry would want to return to the UK, it seems like Anne or Edward would be the best options if George would become King before he is 21 or possibly one of Andrew’s daughters. I doubt too many would want to see Andrew in that role.

They don't get to randomly pick someone. It would be the next one in line over 18.
Again no idea why I skipped over Harry. That was a weird brain hiccup.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

I think usually, that is the case, yes. But given that Harry isn't a working royal I wonder if it wouldn't be Edward or Anne. Actually, Andrew would be next in line after Harry's kids but he also is not a working royal anymore so I'm not sure how that would work.

Hopefully we never have to find out.

That is the sticking point about him continuing in the line of succession even though he is not a working royal anymore.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Yes, all these ideas are nice, but there are rules, people!

I believe Harry still maintains his UK citizenship as well as his Windsor address (Frogmore Cottage).

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Take this with a grain of salt, but it’s interesting (just from a quick Google search)

https://www.marieclaire.com/celebrity/royals/prince-william-kate-middleton-in-hot-water-queen/

 

[CdnCarrie]

Harry is still a UK citizen and in line for the throne. He's just currently not doing royal duties and living elsewhere. If something catastrophic happened there would be discussions and a decision would be made.
It's like the US POTUS. If he and the vice died tomorrow they don't just randomly choose someone from the House that would "do a good job". There is a order of who would be take over.
There is a constitution and legislation outlying this stuff. It's not dependent on who is "liked".

 

[CdnCarrie]

Take this with a grain of salt, but it’s interesting (just from a quick Google search)

https://www.marieclaire.com/celebrity/royals/prince-william-kate-middleton-in-hot-water-queen/

The Queen lost both her uncle and cousin in airplane crashes.
Philip lost his sister, brother in law and 3 nieces/nephews in an airplane crash.
I'm sure that did make her nervous.

 

[FigmentSpark]

Does the regent have to be next in line? They aren't taking the throne. I would think the regent, since the person is only acting the the stead and interest of the minor sovereign, would be someone trusted by the people and the Firm. Remember, when Edward the VI died, a young Edward became king, but his regent uncle found a way to usurp the throne from him and make him disappear. So these appointments aren't taken lightly.

Anyone know enough history to know who was regent when Henry VIII's young son was king? It certainly wasn't next-in-line Catherine or even Elizabeth.

 

[WEDWDW]

Yes with a Regent. Probably Prince Andrew or Edward.

Wow!

Even with no responsibility it seems like it would be terribly stressful for a nine years old to have the title of King of the United Kingdom!

I have to wonder what that would do to Prince George psychologically.

 

[fla4fun]

Basically, someone who rules in the sovereign's name until the sovereign comes of age.

Like a guardian for a minor child.

Does the regent have to be next in line? They aren't taking the throne. I would think the regent, since the person is only acting the the stead and interest of the minor sovereign, would be someone trusted by the people and the Firm. Remember, when Edward the VI died, a young Edward became king, but his regent uncle found a way to usurp the throne from him and make him disappear. So these appointments aren't taken lightly.

Anyone know enough history to know who was regent when Henry VIII's young son was king? It certainly wasn't next-in-line Catherine or even Elizabeth.

That’s also why we have all those Regency romances. They take place during a time when the heir (the Prince Regent) was acting for his father the King, when he wasn’t able to fulfill his duties. Henry VIII son Edward also had a regent, since he became King as a minor, and in his case, the regent was not a person in the line of succession, but one of the Seymours (so it was a blood relative not in line to succeed, not that it stopped the intrigue). The story of the Princes disappearing in the Tower of London is an example of the misuse of a Regent’s power to usurp the throne.

Having a regency plan is something they have dealt with for centuries. I am sure it’s all laid out in writing somewhere, updated based on new laws, and Harry may or may not be a part of it. If a person was legally eligible to inherit on their own, I can’t see them being excluded as a regent, provided the rules don’t require that the regent be outside the succession line. Since there is precedent for both in and out of line regents, it would be interesting to know what the current rules are.

 

[NotUrsula]

This article is a good layman's explanation of the Regency Act of 1937
https://royalcentral.co.uk/features/inside-the-regency-act-1937-156853/
In modern times, it has been common for Parliament to pass temporary special riders to allow the Sovereign's surviving Consort to take a greater role in a regency involving their minor child, with the assistance of the Counselors of State (of which the legal Regent would normally be one; unless Charles changes the composition of the Counselors of State group, which he is reportedly planning to try to do.) A surviving parent automatically becomes legal guardian, of course, but in the case of an underage sovereign, the distinction as to who is in charge has in the past become very murky at times.

My personal feeling is that it would make more sense that a Regent for a Minor heir should be someone who is in the order of Succession, but so far down as to remove any reasonable expectation of ever gaining the throne; outside the top 5 or so would seem to make the most sense, because if possible you do want someone who has at some time lived in the home of a previous sovereign, so as to be fully familiar with the day-to-day routine and pressures of the role. Age and health should matter as well; the Regent should always be someone who is in good health and not likely to die of natural causes before the Heir comes of age. (However, Regent for an adult monarch who is incapacitated should always be the Heir Apparent.)