PVB sales tracking 10/1/24-6/30/25

[MicheyMouse]

What do you mean by Palm Tree date?

 

[AwfulWaffle]

You will be fine. Island Tower is approximately 19% sold. Poly will be selling for at least 2 more years at the current pace before it eventually becomes sold out again.

Awesome, thanks.

 

[maui22]

What do you mean by Palm Tree date?

On the deed…

“THIS DEED is made and executed on” palm tree then line with the date (either filled in by Disney or filled in by the purchaser) “by DISNEY VACATION DEVELOPMENT ….

That date next to the palm tree is a more accurate representation of when the person decided to buy because of delayed closings. There have been cases where that date next to the palm tree was 4 months before the date the county officially recorded this. Only the purchaser or Disney know the full story behind the delay.

 

[maui22]

Sales data is based on what I collected for PVB sales using county website for deeds.
Updated through 5/31/25 proofed county deeds

So far, I have seen a spread of up to 142 days between a PVB "Palm Tree" date and the county recorded date.
These delays are likely people delaying their initial deposit and then spreading the 3 payments out.

Month/Year	County Recorded Deeds	Points based on Recorded Date	Deeds based on Palm Tree	Points based on Palm Tree Date
10/24	564	73,527	1152	161,847
11/24	584	89,746	536	90,633
12/24	520	83,366	474	77,998
1/25	580	91,715	560	84,752
2/25	494	78,308	520	81,975
3/25	580	91,219	419	69,211
4/25	450	75,215	373	60,033
5/25	447	71,458	185	28,105

Sales by unit

Unit	Total Deeds	Total Points
1	2	300
14	1	70
46	1	200
78	1	200
88A	976	149,510
88B	700	114,609
88C	788	133,732
88D	297	38,227
88E	719	93,549
88F	583	100,252
89A	25	3600
89B	126	20,305

Breakdown by UY (month)

Month	Total Deeds	Total Points
February	471	67,337
March	269	41,448
April	350	48,584
June	777	128,234
August	596	98,796
September	488	80,520
October	508	82,160
December	760	107,475

Fixed Week sales
(Updated through 5/31/25 proofed county deeds)

Week	Studio RV	Studio PV	Studio TPV	1BR RV	1BR PV	1BR TPV
1				1
5	1 (5/25)
6			1
7			1
12				1
18	2
19			1
36	3
37	2
38	1
39	3		1
42						1
43	1					2
44			1
49	3		2
50	1		1			1
51	1
52			1

Data showing delayed closings. Date deed showed up on the county website - palm tree date on the contract. (Because a few people don't always write in the palm tree date, I look at the notary and/or the mortgage date to determine the earliest date this person decided to buy).

Days difference	# of Deeds	Total Points
1-27	3,026	458,710
28-44	525	84,183
45-59	336	55,783
60-74	186	30,928
75-89	80	13,748
90+	66	11,202

• October 2024
• November 2024
• December 2024
• January 2025
• February 2025
• March 2025
• April 2025
• May 2025

Quoting my original post so everyone can see how the overall resort looked after May data. (Original post will be updated to reflect data through June 2025).

 

[maui22]

June 2025 data....
Updated through 6/30/25 proofed county deeds

One FW #46, Tower Studio RV in June 2025 county deeds.
One FW #52, Tower Studio TPV in June 2025 county deeds.

Date	County Deeds	County Points	Palm Tree Deeds	Palm Tree Points
6/1/25			18	2375
6/2/25	44	7715	9	1100
6/3/25	16	2620	9	1075
6/4/25	16	2505	9	1350
6/5/25	24	3255	8	1325
6/6/25	2	400	8	1100
6/7/25			13	2500
6/8/25			6	1200
6/9/25	53	9495	9	1210
6/10/25	5	575	12	1855
6/11/25	18	3539	9	1700
6/12/25	21	3250	10	1125
6/13/25	10	1300	7	1710
6/14/25			3	500
6/15/25			3	475
6/16/25	33	4780	2	300
6/17/25	24	4400	6	900
6/18/25	11	1750
6/19/25	25	3700
6/20/25	7	976
6/21/25
6/22/25
6/23/25	42	6890
6/24/25	13	1825
6/25/25	25	4241
6/26/25	18	3537
6/27/25	3	500
6/28/25
6/29/25
6/30/25	27	5005
Totals	437	72,528	141	21,800

 

[maui22]

This was the fewest number of deeds in a month for PVB (10 fewer than May 2025). However, June has 1 fewer day than May. It wasn't the lowest amount of points (close).

March 2025 was an outlier (influenced by December opening and 90 days delayed closings still being offered). PVB is in a steady pattern of 71k-78k points per month.

 

[byurick]

So in other words, no worries about Poly selling out any time soon which tracks with my recent visit. My guide was pushing the Poly duo studios when I asked him recently about a RIV duo studio.

Having said that we did the Poly tour with him when we were there a few weeks ago, it is quite nice and I am tempted.

 

[atthebeachclub]

So in other words, no worries about Poly selling out any time soon which tracks with my recent visit. My guide was pushing the Poly duo studios when I asked him recently about a RIV duo studio.

Having said that we did the Poly tour with him when we were there a few weeks ago, it is quite nice and I am tempted.

I did the Poly tour and they completely skipped the Duo studios. Later I wondered if there was a reason for that.

 

[byurick]

I did the Poly tour and they completely skipped the Duo studios. Later I wondered if there was a reason for that.

Odd, he showed us the duo (in fact his temp office for the day was in one of them). Surprising amount of room.

 

[atthebeachclub]

Odd, he showed us the duo (in fact his temp office for the day was in one of them). Surprising amount of room.

I’m guessing they just didn’t see us using them (I was with my seven year old and we have a family of four).

 

[maui22]

In the county deeds date 7/24, PVB has officially reached 5000 Island Tower deeds sold.
First deed showed up on 10/15/24, so 282 days.

 

[mabucco]

Is there an estimate on when DVC might declare more units into the PVB association? Must be getting close by now.

 

[maui22]

Is there an estimate on when DVC might declare more units into the PVB association? Must be getting close by now.

Excellent observation! It wouldn't surprise me to see one this week or next. Since that declaration, they sold very close to the equivalent in points declared.

The last declaration was March 18, 2025 and declared 335,538 more points.
@wdrl @tjkraz https://dvcnews.com/wdw-resorts/pol...o-the-polynesian-s-island-tower-dvc-inventory

Using that date, looking at the deeds/points showing up on the comptroller website, I show 328,253 points (3/18 and later). I'm including 7/24-7/28 which are not proofed by county and I also need to double check once they do proof.

That's a difference of ~16k. 7/28 is probably 5-10k more (Mondays tend to be a lot of deeds and today was definitely a case of that).

Of course, just because they will have sold the number of points in that March declaration doesn't mean they must make another declaration. However, they have been pretty good about this.

For PVB Island Tower, the date they declare has been just a few days before it shows up on the county website. 7/31/24 showed up on 8/2/24. 3/18/25 showed up 3/21/25.

Edit: 7/25 had 2,050 points (not proofed by county and I will do a second pass when they do). Updating the numbers above
Edit2: 7/28 had 8,639 points (not proofed by county and I will do a second pass when they do). Updating the numbers above

 

[maui22]

Excellent observation! It wouldn't surprise me to see one this week or next. Since that declaration, they sold very close to the equivalent in points declared.

The last declaration was March 18, 2025 and declared 335,538 more points.
@wdrl @tjkraz https://dvcnews.com/wdw-resorts/pol...o-the-polynesian-s-island-tower-dvc-inventory

Using that date, looking at the deeds/points showing up on the comptroller website, I show 328,253 points (3/18 and later). I'm including 7/24-7/28 which are not proofed by county and I also need to double check once they do proof.

That's a difference of ~16k. 7/28 is probably 5-10k more (Mondays tend to be a lot of deeds and today was definitely a case of that).

Of course, just because they will have sold the number of points in that March declaration doesn't mean they must make another declaration. However, they have been pretty good about this.

For PVB Island Tower, the date they declare has been just a few days before it shows up on the county website. 7/31/24 showed up on 8/2/24. 3/18/25 showed up 3/21/25.

Edit: 7/25 had 2,050 points (not proofed by county and I will do a second pass when they do). Updating the numbers above
Edit2: 7/28 had 8,639 points (not proofed by county and I will do a second pass when they do). Updating the numbers above

Giving a slight update on this.
Total points showing up on the county including dates 3/18-7/30 (7/29 and 7/30 not proofed yet) total 333,748.

However, I ran a different check on the deeds based on the palm tree date and that total is 267,951.

Disney knows the exact number of points that are signed and the highly likely completion (final payment/rescission period date), so they make decisions based on information we will never have access to.
Purely guessing roughly another 50k of points are probably signed, waiting for final payment or the rescission period to end.

In March, the deeds showing up on the county website were sometimes signed in December. (Even one that showed up on 3/24/25 had a signing date of 11/2/24 for a gap of 142 days).

Unless Disney has decided to push people towards RIV and CFW for the coming months (translation, slowing PVB sales), I still believe Disney signs off on a new PVB declaration in the next two weeks.

 

[disneylandtour]

I did the Poly tour and they completely skipped the Duo studios. Later I wondered if there was a reason for that.

I spent a week in a duo room at Poly. There were pros and cons to the tower. IMO, all of the pros were outside the room, such as the garden terraces, the restaurant, and the lobby. And well, I can't image that I'd ever book at duo room in the tower again. I have two upcoming stays at the Poly--both will be in the longhouses, which are lovely. The duo rooms over at Riviera are less generic.

 

[Patmcpsu]

I spent a week in a duo room at Poly. There were pros and cons to the tower. IMO, all of the pros were outside the room, such as the garden terraces, the restaurant, and the lobby. And well, I can't image that I'd ever book at duo room in the tower again. I have two upcoming stays at the Poly--both will be in the longhouses, which are lovely. The duo rooms over at Riviera are less generic.

The longhouses are getting a little long in the tooth, and are due for a full renovation in a few years. For the time being, I find them dreary.

But bringing things back to the original topic, I wonder if PVB will be sold out by the time those renovations happen. If the resort is sold out and DVD has trouble selling at the other resorts, I am afraid the longhouses will get the "Grand Californian" treatment for their renovation. At that time, they could only have one other WDW resort in active sales: the LSL/CFW combo (and who knows how easy that will sell).

 

[disneylandtour]

The longhouses are getting a little long in the tooth, and are due for a full renovation in a few years. For the time being, I find them dreary.

Agreed that they need a refurb. I still find their theming, landscaping, overall space, and views superior to similar category tower studios. There's a lot of work going around the longhouses right now, some of which I believe is related to last year's hurricane damage. The next refurb is a hard goods refurb, should start in about three years. And yes, that is much needed. I'd put the problem down to this: studios that can sleep five tend to attract more families with kids than studios that can sleep four. I'm guessing that families with kids wear out a room (or building) faster than studios that tend to attract more couples. For example, IMO, BRV tends to wear our quicker than CCV, even though they are part of the same overall resort.