Pushed Around.

[arliepooh68]

when I was talking about being a human pinball i meant that literally, it is not just one person at a time here, so it is not that easy to just let it go . . . as the previous person said, it is about basic etiquette. . . remember the book about the things I needed to learn I learned in kindergarten??? that kind of stuff! if one of my kids bumps into the other I make them apologize cuz that is not cool. . . and if we all want to share a thread to gripe about being bumped into so be it, cuz ya know what, it feels great to know that HEY I am not the only one feeling this way! that is why we all love this board, there is something for all of us. . .

 

[Ride Junkie]

Here's the beef, we were in DL last year and noticed we always moving out of the way of other people that were walking into us! Very rude people that could care less if they walked right into us. By the end of our trip, we decided we were sick and tired of moving for OTHER people all the time! So we stood our ground and we refused to move when so many people were running into us. Has this ever happened to anyone else? So many rude people in the happiest place on earth!

I thought I was the only one this happened to!! When DH and I are walking side-by-side at DL, I notice that I ALWAYS have to move out of someone's way if they are walking towards us. Why does it always have to be me? I finally got fed up on our last visit (last Wed.). It's not like there are 5 of us walking side-by-side, just 2 of us. I figured they could move just as easily as I could. I decided to hold my ground. If they didn't get out of the way, I just stopped walking until they got out of the way. It worked!

 

[2ndStar]

Parades and Fantasmic are the worst. I can't get my husband to watch Fantasmic anymore and had to do some serious bartering to get him to let us watch the Parade of Dreams on our last trip. We always stake out early but often lose our space and get people practically sitting on top of us at the last minute. For the Parade, we found our curb space an hour before and sat and ate our dinner while we waited. Sure enough, 5-10 minutes before parade time, parents were holding their children over my childrens' heads and then dropping them into the street in front of us and yelling, "Squeeze in, just squeeze in!!!" By that time, we were already packed like sardines, but the kids followed instructions, climbing on people, using elbows, whatever to squeeze in a spot. My son started crying and wound up in my lap to avoid having someone else winding up in his - his move just opened up more space for last-minute familes to cram kids into. It was crazy. When we're late to an event, we just hang out wherever we can - we know if we didn't get there early we just don't have the option of getting the best spots. I don't get some people!

 

[kylieh]

I thought I was the only one this happened to!! When DH and I are walking side-by-side at DL, I notice that I ALWAYS have to move out of someone's way if they are walking towards us. Why does it always have to be me? I finally got fed up on our last visit (last Wed.). It's not like there are 5 of us walking side-by-side, just 2 of us. I figured they could move just as easily as I could. I decided to hold my ground. If they didn't get out of the way, I just stopped walking until they got out of the way. It worked!

With the exception of Canadian visitors, most of DLs international visitors being from Australia, NZ, UK, and Japan walk on the left side of the footpath. So it is very easy for us to make a mistake whilst in the US, reverting back to what we are used to (even though we will try to follow local customs.) Most of us will apologise though!

 

[Lil' Grumpy]

we have never been to disneyland..but our first trip is coming up.

..this site caught my attentions....as this is my area of work....
for the last 17 years.

where one comes from..is not relevant to good manners and having
self control. from cruises to wdw, we have encounters..of those
having no respect but for themselves. however, since mental health
is..my trade....i have no diffculties..taking corective actions.


...males versus females..in reality, we do not separate..those willing
to be mean spirited. one mean bitty..literally attacked..pur daughter
[she was 6 @ the time ]. lucky for her, i did not "see"..her knocking
the guidemap right out her hands. all i saw..was my daughter crying,
& trying to figured..out why? when i did..and saw how this person was
trying..to sneak..off. all heck broke lose...* next thing, disney security
wwere upon us..asking if we wanted to press charges. if she had struck
my daughter..instead of the guidemap...we would have.


..ok..here's the reality....we present all the time. * your rights end when
the words/behaviors you are chosing ...begins..to hurt another. personality
disorders..will ..ask ,'how do i know this"? ..quite simple..when
the person tells you!..at that junction..you have the responsibility to change
..alter your actions...to continue..implies disrespect....& of course, if
its' a "professional mental health..person, they most likely will select a
corrective action....that !00% of the time, will not be liked by the person
esp. if they are a personality disorder.

on one disney cruise..2004, i became ill @ the farewell party...& because
i was up front..i asked the 2 fellas,..behind ..to pardon me, i had to go.
instead they locked arms. now while i don't look imposing, i am in very
"chisel " ~type shape. plus, remeber..this is my line of work..includes the
managment of disruptive behaviors. easily i blew...right through them.
and once..any person..shows..s/s of hostile intentions.my eyes are glued.
...one didn't looked, but the other..was trying to give me his "anger eyes".
...so it was fun to remind..him, i just blew right by...wanta bring it on?
be my guest!...he faded away. * now, i was thinking..throwing up..would
be a great defense..



epcot..one of the most weirdest encounter..we ever had. earlier....there
were a bunch..of ...{ no not teenagers!]..middle age adults..crowding
in front of .,...a group..of elderly. it shocked..my timid wife, who sic the
cast member on them. now i don't know if this "brute" ..6' ~6" ,300lber
was one of them....but coming down the walk way..in front of soaring...
..i could see he was angling toward my sweet lil' ..@ first, i thought
i was imagining..his intentions..but..when we got within 30 yds..i cut
in front of my wife. ..now, i only 5' 8"..155lbs..however, i used to "warm
up"..bench pressing..200 lbs ..10x. & being..a paper boy..in the country..
when papers were twice as big...gave me very strong legs...sure enough
he kept..angling..& then attempted to run over me..to get @ my wife.
he never made it...* we hit so hard..i twirl..but it knocked his sorry
butt..to the ground! but he amazed..me..as i came to confront him,
he shot outta there liked a rocket! as i told..my wife..why i cut in front
of her..she said.." i saw him too & knew what you was doing".

..then there was a very mean bus driver..not to us..but to a guest
mother...who just asked..if he was going to make all the scheduled
stops..@ the corando springs. he almost had her in tears..& my wife..
comforted her...i got his #er..and called the bus supervisor. @ first,
she was snippy..but that was easy..to redirect..and then bringing
up..our incident..where disney..could have been sued..when one of
their driver...took ....an unauthorized..tip , to alter the scheduled
route.

reality..is self evident..one becomes what..one practices...if you
steal..then there's no escaping.."you are a thief."....

respect...is a concept..that seem easily misundestood, by my observations.
you have to demonstrate it in order to receive it. you know?..i believe
everything..anyone tells me..until their behaviors proves..otherwise.

there are very good benefits..for practicing the choses..that produces
positive outcomes. * i teach...positive versus negative behaviors..are
much better then using good/bad..because of rationizations
and those manipulating..them to do harm. & the "measurments are more
concrete & everlasting. positive?...something gains or desire versus
negative...being undesirable or something loss. ..and it works!

2...major causes for ... emotional pain? losses & lonliness.

psst, it just as easy..& much more benefical..to give others a reason
to like you..as it is the reverese. actually...make others..fear..or scare
..or simple being..mean..is giving others motivation..to take..negative
response.

wanta make the world a better place? really?....work on imporving oneself
...wil produces..positive results....& effect..all those who encounter..esp.
family & freinds. [ somthing..iam always trying to do....oh, just becuase
i know...a lil'how things work..doesn't mean...i have them mastered. * for
all my talk, my lil'cutie [wife]..is much more accomplished..then i.
[ iam sorta...... down with the slobs..needing assitance....


so,,,there 's my take..on ..those less than plesant encounters. if
one tries..wiping hteir nasty dirty habits..on me..i'm sorry,
but my response..will be a corrective measure. & boy! ...

..when i got to "work"..on vacation..but i will!




ps.."lil'grumpy"..came from wife....

 

[bumbershoot]

Perhaps I have been lucky, or I am completely oblivious... but I have rarely in my life crossed persons who are mean and or pushy. I have read many of the complaints here and I am guessing, that everyone at one time or another has been guilty of many of the acts you mention. People make mistakes, they daydream, are focused on their families, turn the wrong direction, stop without thinking etc... we are all human!
If someone stopped dead in their tracks in front of me, I would say "oops, excuse me!" If someone ran ahead of me to insure their place in front of me in line, I would just smile and not think a thing about it (why let it ruin my mood?!), if someone hit me with their stroller from behind, I would turn around and say "excuse me!, I am sorry".
I would never let someone who bumped into me (which was likely an accident anyway) get me so angry that I would let it bother me! I have better things to think about


Honestly, don't let the little stuff bug you! We are all just people, not everyone will be as kind and considerate as you would like... but perhaps if we all treat each other as we would like to be treated... that will rub off on others

Just my two cents!

You would apologize if you did something that caused someone pain. The difference is, the people being complained about don't and won't.

Why would you apologize if someone hit your ankles with a stroller? Even if you would, after the 3rd time by the same person, you very likely wouldn't anymore.

I remember at a Scottish festival in Alexandria VA I discovered the sheer torture of a double stroller and a clueless mother. She got me at least 3 times. It was crowded, we were all going slowly, no one was speeding up and slowing down, but she seemed to think that we were, b/c she just kept hitting me. I thought she was going to make me bleed it hurt so bad! And she NEVER apologized.

When we're walking at Disney I try to get eye contact with people walking the opposite direction. Kind and polite people will look back and move away, splitting the difference so both of us are moving a bit. Unkind and unpolite people will continue looking at each other or wherever they are looking, won't move, will bang if you don't move your own shoulder, and won't apologize.

Those are the ones being vented about.

 

[JadeDarkstar]

i have to admit ive hit some one with the stroler before but was being pushed from behind. i felt afule i apoligized to the lady three times. finely i stoped looked behind to the man behind me and said "you keep making me hit her" i said it loud enough and then the lady gave me a look like "oh it wasnt you doing it.

god i cant belive some ppl would do that. avbout the parade and what not thats just sad. i dont remember the last time i actuely saw a parade all the way though last year we just gave up
this year i want to see it. and I will. Im gona have an ECV and my sons stroler. at least if we line up early enough we can sit and wait till its time.
I mean I do want to see the parade and do want pics and after this thread no more mrs nice girl
"down in front"
"Ive been here hours get behind"
"Back of the line"
yep those are some sayings im gona learn to say lol we all need to bind togetehr agenst these rude ppl

 

[tortugaverde]

IMO, it's not just little stuff. It's basic manners, and if society lets the rudeness, pushiness, and line cutting become the norm, what is that teaching our kids? That they are far more important than everyone else?

I don't know, I guess I feel as if I am teaching my kids manners and politeness by watching my actions. I say "excuse me" and "I am sorry", if the other person is lacking manners themselves and I carry on without being angry or upset. I don't say snide remarks to those in my party about the rudeness of others and I don't shout reminders to others about the manners they should have (example: "excuse you!"). I try and treat everyone as I would want to be treated, regardless of how they treat me. Personally, I think THAT is what my children are learning. I feel I am teaching them manners, tolerance, acceptance, patience and kindness by responding as I do.

Again, it is just my personal opinion

 

[pixiewings71]

No way will I apologize to someone who has hit me with their stroller when I've done nothing. Sure we've cut thru at times and one time my DBF was literally dragging me (he wanted to get somewhere, I can't remember where now) and I ended up cutting someone off that was pushing a stroller. She did hit me and I did apologize to her, what my gripe is when I'm already there and someone comes up behind me and starts hitting me....ummmm, I was here first, stop hitting me and then you turn around and look at them and they just look away, as soon as you turn forward they hit you again. NO, I will not apologize when I've done nothing wrong. I find it hard to believe that you would. I try very hard to teach my children manners, I find it disgusting when adults don't have them. I am teaching my children how to behave in public and how to stand up for themselves. I'm not a pushover, nor am a mean person, I can be if I'm pushed enough but it takes a lot to get me angry, especially when I'm at DL.

 

[tortugaverde]

Why would you apologize if someone hit your ankles with a stroller? Even if you would, after the 3rd time by the same person, you very likely wouldn't anymore.

If someone hit me with their stroller (which has happened) I would assume guilt, perhaps I slowed down a bit or something... and apologize. In the situations I have experienced, the stroller driver always apologizes anyway. However, if they did not... I would still apologize and smile. If they continued to hit me with their stroller, I would either ignore it... or turn around and say "wow, the crowds are crazy... sorry I can't move very fast!" or something such as that. I would also assume that the stroller driver may be being pushed from behind, and it is hardly their fault that they are hitting me with their stroller. I highly doubt that there are many people out there who would intentionally hit people with their stroller, especially when there is a child in it!

 

[tortugaverde]

No way will I apologize to someone who has hit me with their stroller when I've done nothing. Sure we've cut thru at times and one time my DBF was literally dragging me (he wanted to get somewhere, I can't remember where now) and I ended up cutting someone off that was pushing a stroller. She did hit me and I did apologize to her, what my gripe is when I'm already there and someone comes up behind me and starts hitting me....ummmm, I was here first, stop hitting me and then you turn around and look at them and they just look away, as soon as you turn forward they hit you again. NO, I will not apologize when I've done nothing wrong. I find it hard to believe that you would. I try very hard to teach my children manners, I find it disgusting when adults don't have them. I am teaching my children how to behave in public and how to stand up for themselves. I'm not a pushover, nor am a mean person, I can be if I'm pushed enough but it takes a lot to get me angry, especially when I'm at DL.

I guess I am hard to believe then

 

[pixiewings71]

If someone hit me with their stroller (which has happened) I would assume guilt, perhaps I slowed down a bit or something... and apologize. In the situations I have experienced, the stroller driver always apologizes anyway. However, if they did not... I would still apologize and smile. If they continued to hit me with their stroller, I would either ignore it... or turn around and say "wow, the crowds are crazy... sorry I can't move very fast!" or something such as that. I would also assume that the stroller driver may be being pushed from behind, and it is hardly their fault that they are hitting me with their stroller. I highly doubt that there are many people out there who would intentionally hit people with their stroller, especially when there is a child in it!

So when the person doesn't apologize or even LOOK at you you still apologize? Then you're nicer then me because I won't do that. The person behind me hitting me with her stroller had no one behind her, I looked. Believe it or not there was a small space there with no one in it. I was shocked, then we moved to the side (because I said "apparently I'm invisible so let's just move over so the stroller behind me can get by") and we filed in behind her, she kept doing it....yup, she was hitting the people ahead of her again....she just wanted people to move, yes she had a child in her stroller and she was alone. It was just the 2 of them, the child was actually sleeping. It was an umbrella stroller so not only was she hitting me with the stroller she was hitting me hard enough that her kids feet were hitting me too. She never looked at anyone she hit, she either bent over her child (as if it was an accident) or looked the other way, she never made eye contact OR apologized, when people apologize I'm very nice about it, I try to make room for them or get out of their way but when they are rude about it and (very obviously) doing it on purpose I don't. And I do assume she was doing it on purpose because when we filled in behind her the people behind us said "she did that to us too, I guess she wants us all to get out of her way". I'm not saying it shouldn't happen, nor am I saying I'm rude to everyone who does it, only to those who do not acknowledge they've done it. That's being pushed around (title of the thread) and that's what I don't tolerate.

 

[Pamb]

I will be taking a double jogging stroller to DL along with three young children. After reading this thread I feel like I need a warning siren on it. Maybe flashing yellow lights and a sign that says "Wide Load"? Since I am only 5'4" maybe some of you large men with AP's out there can come as a stroller possie to make sure we don't have problems. If I get big enough sunglasses maybe people will think I am a celebrity and with the possie in place get out of our way?

Seriously, I hope we can avoid a collision and at the same time I really hope others understand that with small children those driving the stroller may not *truly* be the ones in control.

 

[Jenn1116]

Pamb, you'll be fine!!!

Accidents do happen and I think everyone here understands that. A bump that comes with an apology is nothing to gripe about. I am perfectly content to be run into as long as the person says sorry. It even brightens my day because I'm reminded that not everyone is rude or purposefully hurtful. Just don't use your double wide as a battering ram and all will be well!

 

[tlovesdis]

I will be taking a double jogging stroller to DL along with three young children. After reading this thread I feel like I need a warning siren on it. Maybe flashing yellow lights and a sign that says "Wide Load"? Since I am only 5'4" maybe some of you large men with AP's out there can come as a stroller possie to make sure we don't have problems. If I get big enough sunglasses maybe people will think I am a celebrity and with the possie in place get out of our way?

Seriously, I hope we can avoid a collision and at the same time I really hope others understand that with small children those driving the stroller may not *truly* be the ones in control.

I'm with ya! My niece broke her foot two weeks ago and we leave Wednesday! She will be in a wheelchair and I can only imagine how "fun" it's ging to be to maneuver that thing around in a crowd! I know people are gonna get hit, not because of me, but becasue they aren't going to be paying any attention!

 

[Corpsebride]

So when the person doesn't apologize or even LOOK at you you still apologize? Then you're nicer then me because I won't do that. The person behind me hitting me with her stroller had no one behind her, I looked. Believe it or not there was a small space there with no one in it. I was shocked, then we moved to the side (because I said "apparently I'm invisible so let's just move over so the stroller behind me can get by") and we filed in behind her, she kept doing it....yup, she was hitting the people ahead of her again....she just wanted people to move, yes she had a child in her stroller and she was alone. It was just the 2 of them, the child was actually sleeping. It was an umbrella stroller so not only was she hitting me with the stroller she was hitting me hard enough that her kids feet were hitting me too. She never looked at anyone she hit, she either bent over her child (as if it was an accident) or looked the other way, she never made eye contact OR apologized, when people apologize I'm very nice about it, I try to make room for them or get out of their way but when they are rude about it and (very obviously) doing it on purpose I don't. And I do assume she was doing it on purpose because when we filled in behind her the people behind us said "she did that to us too, I guess she wants us all to get out of her way". I'm not saying it shouldn't happen, nor am I saying I'm rude to everyone who does it, only to those who do not acknowledge they've done it. That's being pushed around (title of the thread) and that's what I don't tolerate.

Yep thats what happend to me too! Except it was a man instead of a woman. As soon as I litterally jumped out of the way he just motored on past me, he was just hitting me with the stroller from behind so I would get out of his way, as soon as I was, he moved onto the next person. he never looked at me or said sorry as I was audibly saying to him WOW YOU SUCK WATCH WHERE YOU ARE GOING WAY TO USE YOUR KID AS A BATTERING RAM . he didnt flinch or even move his head to look at me.
I hate it when peoples goals are to just motor through people with no consideration just to get where they are going, its all about them. like the other 2 million people that are in front of him didnt count.
grrrrr.
So yeah if some one hits me with the stroller, I look at them to let them know I got hit, they usually say sorry, I know its frustrating, but its the ones who dont apologize will get an earful. I mean come on, like someone says, its so first grade , be nice, share space, say thank you and Im sorry,or excuse me.
well there ya go. what can you do?

 

[TiaMaria]

Strollers are bad enough - Lord know I have the scars to prove it (particulary once when I was almost swept off my feet onto the poor child being used as a torpedo - I said to the woman "What would you have done if I had landed on your baby?" - she glared and motored right on past me)!.

But what really annoys me is the person/group that stops as they exit an elevator (or the top or bottom of an escalator) to look around cluelessly as they decide which way to go. Never mind they entire crowd exiting behind them which just piled up on one another!!