Pulling kids out of school for trip

I get what you are saying, but seriously, i just have to comment (and not saying you are suggesting that you would do this)...no true football parent would EVER schedule a family vacation during football season! The semi-unique thing about football is there are only a handful of games per season - that translates to a whole lot of practice and training for a little bit of gameplay. No way would any real football mom do this to her player. And I would hope the same would be true for any other big commitment like a lead role in a play or other activity that has a huge prep time for a small window of opportunity. That's just silly, and really not even worth joining if a vacation is more important.

I respectfully disagree. I am pulling my son out and he will be missing a jazz band concert. This may or may not affect him getting in to the honors jazz band or his placement in the band. But I DON'T CARE (however, I did try to plan around the thing I thought would cause the least disruption)......and to say that we are less of moms because of that I disagree. I think I am a great mom that realizes these things our kids in school are NOT their lives. This is not going to make or break their careers, unless you truly believe your child will be playing pro ball! Life is short, and you never ever know what will happen tomorrow and family bonding time through vacation means more to me than one silly game/performance. And to say that they should join doesn't make sense to me, because I believe the practice is more important than the short performance time and learning is important no matter what happens in the end.

Kids these days have activity after activity with no time for family or to be a kid. There has to be a break, and if it works for the family to take time to spend time together, even if the kids have to miss a competition, then so be it. I wonder which they will remember 20 years from now. Something tells me it will be the vacation.
 
I am pulling my son out and he will be missing a jazz band concert. This may or may not affect him getting in to the honors jazz band or his placement in the band. But I DON'T CARE (snip)

Kids these days have activity after activity with no time for family or to be a kid. There has to be a break, and if it works for the family to take time to spend time together, even if the kids have to miss a competition, then so be it. I wonder which they will remember 20 years from now. Something tells me it will be the vacation.
Can't families bond without having to travel so far for a vacation?

I would say that an equal number of kids would remember 20 years from now the school activity (that they could or could not do) as would remember the vacation (that they could or could not go on).

If the kid selected the activity and pursued it on his own initiative then I would not say that the activity is keeping him from being a kid.
 
3princes+1princess said:
I respectfully disagree. I am pulling my son out and he will be missing a jazz band concert. This may or may not affect him getting in to the honors jazz band or his placement in the band. But I DON'T CARE (however, I did try to plan around the thing I thought would cause the least disruption)......and to say that we are less of moms because of that I disagree. I think I am a great mom that realizes these things our kids in school are NOT their lives. This is not going to make or break their careers, unless you truly believe your child will be playing pro ball! Life is short, and you never ever know what will happen tomorrow and family bonding time through vacation means more to me than one silly game/performance. And to say that they should join doesn't make sense to me, because I believe the practice is more important than the short performance time and learning is important no matter what happens in the end.

Kids these days have activity after activity with no time for family or to be a kid. There has to be a break, and if it works for the family to take time to spend time together, even if the kids have to miss a competition, then so be it. I wonder which they will remember 20 years from now. Something tells me it will be the vacation.

Actually, you read into that...I never said anyone was less of a mom, but now I will say this:

I believe it wholeheartedly and am not trying to be mean, but pulling a kid out of a sport like football or any other team setting during the season kind of does make one a bad mom (or dad) in the regard of commitment and follow-through, in my opinion, becuase if you are *that* mom (not specifically YOU, just a mom in general), its your kid that is hurting the team, not just making their own life hard with missing schoolwork. You sign a kid up, you are responsible as much as the kid for making sure they get there. My boys have played football for years now and DD cheers, and never once in the past 8 years have we taken a vacation between the last week of july through november. Not because I think my kid will be the next Jarrod Allen, but because there are 30 other kids depending on him to be *their* defensive end. Parents of real football players, and by "real", I mean kids who take their commitment seriously, understand this and would never plan a vacation during the season because they know what it would do to the team if their kid was gone. Depending on many positions, too, a key absence would even increase the liklihood of injury to someone else since football players have to work so closely in unison to protect each other. You throw a new center or guard or tackle in there that doesnt know what they are doing, and someone (like the QB or running back) is going to get hurt.

I don't know how much other kids depend on your kid in jazz band, but I can tell you right now, if i were the leader of the band, I would not have warm and fuzzy feelings toward you or your kid. As a cheerleading coach, it is really irritating when girls who knew up front about the commitment they were making, don't show up for practice and their whole stunt group has to sit out because one girls mom decided that her daughters life/vacation/activity was more important. And like football, we can't just fill someone else in a cheer routine. We would write a girl out of the routine altogether if she told us she can't come to a competition, which would then make it silly...yes, silly, to join in the first place since she would be sitting around for most of the 2 hour, 3-5 days a week practices.

Obviously we disagree on this. My opinion will always be: sports and activities are not mandatory. If you can't/won't/don't get with the program, don't sign up. Stick to individual sports or activities if your child or you dont feel you can commit to a team for the season. There are plenty of activities out there for kids whose parents "DON'T CARE" about anything other than their family vacation. On a team, the goal *is* the game/performance/etc, not the practice. A parent should care about that if they decide to put their kid on the team or in a group activity.

Eta: football/cheer *is* family time for us. We love the atmosphere and camaraderie of our league and commit as a family and play/coach as a family. So, if one of my kids were to miss a game or competition, they would remember it. And, my kids are asked at registration time Every Single Year if they would like to sign up again or if they want to try something else. it's their choice. But once that choice is made, it's 100% commitment. That's how we roll :)
 
3princes+1princess said:
I respectfully disagree. I am pulling my son out and he will be missing a jazz band concert. This may or may not affect him getting in to the honors jazz band or his placement in the band. But I DON'T CARE (however, I did try to plan around the thing I thought would cause the least disruption)......and to say that we are less of moms because of that I disagree. I think I am a great mom that realizes these things our kids in school are NOT their lives. This is not going to make or break their careers, unless you truly believe your child will be playing pro ball! Life is short, and you never ever know what will happen tomorrow and family bonding time through vacation means more to me than one silly game/performance. And to say that they should join doesn't make sense to me, because I believe the practice is more important than the short performance time and learning is important no matter what happens in the end.

Kids these days have activity after activity with no time for family or to be a kid. There has to be a break, and if it works for the family to take time to spend time together, even if the kids have to miss a competition, then so be it. I wonder which they will remember 20 years from now. Something tells me it will be the vacation.

Dup
 

Have to agree as someone who played on a few different sports teams throughout my high school career. Missing classes was not a problem for me but messing things up for my other team mates would have been pretty selfish of me. I went during school many times but it was always around my various sports seasons
 
We had planned to go to Disney this month and the day my DH put in a request to have off he was told that no one could take a summer vacation. So we made the decision to go in October- Yes we would have liked to go when my DS was out of school but my DH job is dictating when we could go. Now my DS decided to join football at the last minute and he will miss 1 game- He is only in 7th grade and there are 60 kids on the team since they don't make cuts at this level. I am not saying it is no big deal to miss but in this case they have plenty of players to fill in so I won't feel guilty when we are having fun at "Best Place On Earth":) also my DS is smart and I believe he will catch up quickly. Can't worry about it now - we are all paid for and ready to have fun!
 
I looked at taking my son out of Kindergarten a week this past February to go to Disney. I was informed by the principal that 5 unexcused absences would get us an early intervention truancy hearing at juvenile court. So needless to say, we went at Spring Break with everyone else. It was packed. Our state puts a LOT of pressure on districts regarding attendance.

Good luck with whatever you decide, but I personally would do it if I could!
 
We ended up taking our kids (1st&3rd) out for the last week of the year last year, only because of make up days, the year ran long. Our school counted them as excused absences.

This year we are actually planning on taking the kids out of school for an entire week in February and we are a little nervous for DS (4th grade). He was put in the accelerated math class and both kids are required to read 30 minutes a day and 1 hour a day if they are absent. Falling behind is not an option. That is a lot of reading on vacation!

I am hoping with a little planning and prep we can survive without falling behind! If their teachers seem like they are bulking at the idea, or we think that DS might fall behind, we might have to cancel. But we will NOT visit during spring break. Our entire reason for the timing is to avoid crowds and lower the cost!
 
We are taking our 5th grader out of school for 13 days in March. The first few days are because we have to schedule flights out of here early enough because of weather. We will spend his Spring Break week in Disney and then 2weeks back in our hometown in Illinois. We live on an island in the Aleutian chain and we travel when our schedules allow us and March it is this year. My son doesn't miss school otherwise and will make up the work. They are pretty lenient here as many families travel when they can. Dutch Harbor is one of the number one fishing ports and seasons don't always fall during school breaks.
 
The kids will miss a few days in December when we take a short trip.
We are saving our longer trip for Spring Break, since the kids are off.
 
I looked at taking my son out of Kindergarten a week this past February to go to Disney. I was informed by the principal that 5 unexcused absences would get us an early intervention truancy hearing at juvenile court. So needless to say, we went at Spring Break with everyone else. It was packed. Our state puts a LOT of pressure on districts regarding attendance.

Good luck with whatever you decide, but I personally would do it if I could!

Ridiculous that you caved to this scare tactic. 1) It is your kid; 2) kindergarten is not a required grade in any state I know of; 3) school officials often don't understand the actual laws or exaggerate profusely; 4) write a note after the fact that the kid was sick; 5) go and let them do what they will do. I seriously doubt anyone is going to haul a parent into truancy court (whatever that is, if it even exists) because you kindergartner went on a family vacation and if they did, would just make a$$es of themselves. If the latter proved true, I would be screaming all the way to the state legislature publicly (preferably with a news crew in tow -- makes a great story).

Parents have got to stand up and let schools know that they are the parents and they will not be bullied, railroaded, and buried in ridiculous rules. Every time a parent gives up like you did, the schools think they are correct in such egregious actions.
 
We are booked for the last week in January. My oldest DD is in kindergarten. We just received the school handbook that states that the first 9 absences are excused. After that, you must provide a note for each absence. If it is not medical related, it must be pre-approved. It specifically states that family vacations don't count...

I am hoping for DD not to be sick more than 4 times before we go, but I have to admit I have anxiety now about the whole thing. It is kindergarten; she is 5. I can see more if it was high school.

I don't know if I should tell the teacher now, or just wait it out. (Maybe there will be a snow day while we are gone!!). I would like to be prepared for what may happen. My husband doesn't care what so ever and says let them fine us if they want.

We have traveled the last 3 yrs in January and really like it. I hope this all works out...

Thoughts?
 
I think it depends on your school and relationship with staff and teachers. We pulled out for 10 days 2 weeks after school had started. I talked to the teachers and they were fabulous. It was a surprise and they were more than willing to help keep the secret even sneaking their make up work home. They were 1st and 3rd grade at the time. We have since moved and I would say the new school would give us the run around if we were to try and be upfront and let them know. In which case I would just do it and get the make up work after.
 
We are booked for the last week in January. My oldest DD is in kindergarten. We just received the school handbook that states that the first 9 absences are excused. After that, you must provide a note for each absence. If it is not medical related, it must be pre-approved. It specifically states that family vacations don't count...

I am hoping for DD not to be sick more than 4 times before we go, but I have to admit I have anxiety now about the whole thing. It is kindergarten; she is 5. I can see more if it was high school.

I don't know if I should tell the teacher now, or just wait it out. (Maybe there will be a snow day while we are gone!!). I would like to be prepared for what may happen. My husband doesn't care what so ever and says let them fine us if they want.

We have traveled the last 3 yrs in January and really like it. I hope this all works out...

Thoughts?

Your husband is correct! Go! Why should you feel anxiety making decisions for your child?

Plus, you state you still have four "non-medical" days available after your trip. If she's sick, it doesn't count toward this number.

Take control of your own family.
 
We're pulled DD out for our second trip and will pull her out again this year for another trip. She'll max out on the days she can miss but we'll be able to get some days excused for educational purposes. Not all days are excused (because we're not learning the whole time) but there is plenty she can do that we can stretch into the learning spectrum.
How much of Disney was based off of literary works? How much can they learn about geography and other cultures from the different areas? Epcot and Animal Kingdom have a ton of educational things. We brought DD's teacher back some conversation goodies from AK. DD gets to do homework and read on the trip down (she'll sleep and watch a movie or two also- we drive). She learns about east coast geography as we drive down. There is no reason for a few days to NOT be excused as educational.
ETA- DD's teacher has already been told that we'll be out of town for multiple days in early December. I said we'd remind her again when we got closer to the date so we could work out specifics with homework. There is no way in hell I'd schedule a vacation to a major tourist area in the prime season- spring break, Christmas break or summer.
 
Not because I think my kid will be the next Jarrod Allen, but because there are 30 other kids depending on him to be *their* defensive end. Parents of real football players, and by "real", I mean kids who take their commitment seriously, understand this and would never plan a vacation during the season because they know what it would do to the team if their kid was gone.

THIS!!!! We gave up free dining and are paying full price so my ds and dnephew don't miss their soccer (not football in our case) and then later, basketball games. To us, it's very important that they fulfill their commitment to their teams. So we go between the two different seasons. Luckily at our school, every family gets 3 excused vacation days and we have a fall break so the kids will only miss 1 1/2 days of school as unexcused. Policy also states that they are not allowed to get homework ahead of time so they will have to work extra hard when we get home. But they are all up for that!
 
I'd pull my kids out because Florida in the summer? Nope.

That's not always as bad as you'd think. We went 2nd week of June in 2012 & didn't get hot once. In fact, the temps were in the low-mid 80's all but one day when it hit 91.

That said, hotter weather is always a possibility, and pretty much guaranteed later in the Summer.
 
My oldest son unexpectedly passed away in May at the age of 15. Since 2004 we have taken a yearly trip to WDW and it has always been during the school year. Some trips were missing a few days and a few trips were 10 days.
I would get nervous about how school would comment on pulling the kids out and how they would catch up on homework. Some years it was a struggle. But looking back at it now I would NEVER second guess a decision to pull my kids out of school for a family trip. I don't care if it was to just go to the local zoo. Sorry, but they can throw me in jail. Family memories are more important as I have found out. In the end, that is all you have are memories.

Take the trip and don't look back.


Sarah
 


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