crazyme5kids
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Oh don't stop. I don't even have a dog but I am enjoying reading this thread.
snickerharley said:Poodles are a TON of work you should be prepared to comb them all overat least once a day, you also have to keep them groomedevery four to six weeks. If you do not keep them brushed out and mat free they will have to be shaved down, almost no hair about 1/16 of an inch left on their small little bodies. Poodles are often nasty to eveyone but their owners so that is something to think about as well, I can tell you from expirience that I am oftem more fearful of getting bit by a poodle than a pit bull or rottweiler.So yes your husband is correct they are a lot of work, alomost all toy breeds are.
snickerharley said:Unfortunately a few people have ruined what was ment to help other dog owners with questions they may have. I never stated that I was an expert, I said I was a professional willing to help. Everything I said including the results that are possible from shaving a golden are true to my expiriences and things that I have sceen first hand. I am not a breeder, I am not a vet, I am a groomer ! So please moderator feel free to close this thread!
Actually He is really white, or suppossed to be. He was not bought at a back door breeder either. When we first got him, He was so white. As he has gotten older he has basically changed colors. Not his hair but the stains on his hair. I meant to say when it grows back it changes color immediatly, not grows back this color. Thank you for the site on the differnt colors. I enjoyed seeing it. Thanks for the advice from the groomer. It is appreciated, sorry some dealt with you harsh. You were just trying to help. If you find anything to get rid of these spots please let me know.Nana Annie said:Actually, Disneygirlatheart, what you probably have is not a white poodle, but one of the other colors that occur but are not recognized by the AKC.
These colors pop up occasionally, more so in back yard breeder litters and puppy mill pups - people who don't have scrupulous breeding ethics. However, even the best breeder has had the "old" colors pop up in their litters. You cannot breed the genetics out totally, they still pop up once in awhile.
Without seeing the dog, your description sounds like you might have a brindle and cream parti-colored dog. The cream being the "yellowish color" you see and the brindle parti - the muddy colors on the feet and face - the common places to see parti-colors.
For me, it would not be a matter of a fungus or an allergy (shouldn't diagnose medical conditions without seeing a dog) because you said the hair always grows back the same color. This sounds like this is actually the dogs color and not a disease. A fungus or allergy would not make the dog a parti-colored dog (ie, darker colored feet). You would also be battling skin problems. If you do have concerns about a fungus or allergy, please take your dog to the vet to get an expert's opinion.
Here is a website showing some of the "off colors" of poodles.
http://www.homestead.com/sharminspoodles/ToyPoodleColors.html
robinb said:Wow. This is the first time I have read this. I have a 9 week old standard poodle puppy. What can I do at this early age to help avoid this problem? She had her face, feet and tail done by her breeder (and first human mom) last week. Should I bring her in for a clip while she is still very young, or should I just wait the regular 6 weeks?
However, he is the nicest dog I've ever had. Very alert, a good watch dog. Not yappy, but lets me know if anyone comes up. He is wonderful with my handicapped child. We got the dog at 10wks and immediately began submission training--I would roll the dog on his side and hold his paws down,saying "good dog" all the while. My child couldn't do it, but I would roll the dog over and place my childs hands on the dog so he got the idea that even the handicapped child was his leader. Therefore, we have never had problems with him tring to "alpha" the kids. snickerharley said:Unfortunately a few people have ruined what was ment to help other dog owners with questions they may have. I never stated that I was an expert, I said I was a professional willing to help. Everything I said including the results that are possible from shaving a golden are true to my expiriences and things that I have sceen first hand. I am not a breeder, I am not a vet, I am a groomer ! So please moderator feel free to close this thread!
Thanks for tip. I will give it a try and see what it does. He has very sensitive skin anyway, so do you think it will be ok to use it on him?Nana Annie said:First of all my apologies. I never meant to imply that your dog may have come from a back yard breeder. I was just trying to say you see the colors more with them because they don't stick to scrupulous breeding plans. I tried to explain that even the most hoity, toity, over analyzed, best pedigree in the nation, by breeders that check every generation of each dog for at least seven generations, that stick to breeding to AKC colors, will get the "off" colors in the breed. It is the genetics of the poodle. It happens to the best. Just because the AKC says that some colors are not acceptable - somebody forgot to tell the Poodle that.
Here is a whitening trick the show people use:
Caution though - do NOT use around the eyes, and dab on coat - don't rub in because you don't want to get it on the skin.
Get some salon grade hydrogen peroxide - 20% (available at beauty stores),
mix equal parts with Maalox. Add some cornstarch to make it a loose paste.
Dab on with a q-tip or popsicle stick.
Leave on for about 20 minutes - then brush out. A couple treatments should leave your dog nice and white.
Again, don't get it on the skin, as dogs with sensitive skin may experience some burning.
This is the same peroxide that is used on human heads, but do be careful withit.
Good luck