Problem at VB Pool - Tresspassers

[trainfun]

In addition to the line between inconveniencing guests vs. keeping locals out is the issue of Disney's relationship with the surrounding community.

If Disney starts having local kids arrested the publicity won't be nice and the community could become hostile to the resort. Worse the trespassers might shift from pool crashing to vandalism which would impact our maintenance fees.

The post about the birthday party is really incredible. Some people have no shame! These people should have been removed.

Rather than having kids arrested maybe Disney could impose a hefty use of facilities charge (say $25 first time, $50 second time and $100 thereafter) that trespassers would have to pay. They could have the choice of paying the fee or being arrested.

Giving people a choice (pay or be arrested) might blunt a straight arrest program.

 

[floridafam]

Where do these people park?

Do they just walk right through the front of the resort?

I thought I was being kind by holding the pool gate open for people who fumbled for their keys.

I do think this should be stopped. We OWN there just like the neighbors near the resort OWN their houses (okay, well not exactly the same).

Something tells me the people who live over on Orchid Island wouldn't want any locals coming to swim and have birthday parties at their pools. I don't think they would dare make a stink if locals were kicked out of the pool because they want the same thing.

 

[ncligs]

Originally posted by Maistre Gracey
Oh, how I hope I don't see this happen. I'm just not sure I can keep myself as composed as many of you...

I think wrist bands are the best solution for VB.

 

[jmminarik]

Life was so much simpler when you could just shoot trespassers.

-joe

 

[ducklite]

Originally posted by jmminarik
Life was so much simpler when you could just shoot trespassers.

-joe

ROFL!!

Anne

 

[TIdoublegaER]

Life was so much simpler when you could just shoot trespassers.

And if they use that gun that ncligs has - that ought to put a stop to pool crashers!!

 

[Maistre Gracey]

Originally posted by ncligs

I think wrist bands are the best solution for VB.

Of course, how foolish of me.... The good 'ole sub-machine gun / flame thrower combo.

Now why didn't I think of that?

 

[ncligs]

Originally posted by Maistre Gracey
Of course, how foolish of me.... The good 'ole sub-machine gun / flame thrower combo.

 

[MiaSRN62]

I was just on the Vero beach on Aug 2---a mere feet from the hotel. I can't tell u how tempted I was to sneak into the pool ! But I respected the fact that I was not a paying (cash/points) guest at that time. I was visiting my uncle who lives 10 min away. I agree, wristbands or tags should work. I'm a member of a community pool where I live and if you're not wearing your tag (even though they've seen your face a dozen times before), they don't let u in. It's the same at the Jersey shore. No tag, no beach. I don't get the problem at Vero. I'd be happy to wear a tag or wristband if it meant that it would make my stay more enjoyable (i.e. no pool/resort hoppers).

 

[Maistre Gracey]

Originally posted by ncligs

TOOOO FUNNY!!!

 

[SnowWitch]

We were there for the first week of August and I think we may have encountered this.

My boys who are 11 and 13 had went down to the pool bar to grab 4 hamburger baskets and were gone forever or so it seemed. Upon returning I asked what had taken them so long. They replied they had met 2 boys at the pool and sat and chatted. I responded, "Oh great, How old are they, where are they FROM?"

They were 10 and 13. And they were from Sebastian!

Maybe I'm assuming but why would one vacation at a resort right down the road?

 

[PamOKW]

It's possible they were crashing or they could have been visiting relatives who were staying at the resort or even been children of a CM. And, they could have been spending some time at the resort as "summer vacation" or been there as part of a wedding that was being held at the resort or in the area. Sometimes people do vacation close to home. That's why the guests shouldn't have to be the "pool police". Disney should come up with a workable system.

I'm not sure that they'll ever be able to keep out every pool crasher. They get in if they really want to. You'll even find them at SAB.

 

[DisneyDiver]

Here's an idea -

1) A gate at the top of the wooden ramp down to the beach. With big pointy bits on it

2) A Keycard system operated by your roomkey, and for those that forget their key, a numberpad that has the access code changed every week

3) For those that forget their key and the code during the day, have cast member there to open the gate, after asking them for their room details, and noting their name. At night, allow reception to buzz people in using an intercom system.

4) Have the cast members at the bar ask for resort ID when people buy drinks or food (I'd imagine nobody could handle going all day without buying something...)

Wouldn't cost that much, and I'm sure it would save a lot of hassle for DVC, trying to hunt down people who don't stay at the hotel using the pool...

 

[PamOKW]

Have the cast members at the bar ask for resort ID when people buy drinks or food (I'd imagine nobody could handle going all day without buying something...)

This was the policy. I'm not sure whether it's still in effect or not. No room key -- no food/drink. I saw them turning away a man who said he was waiting to check-in so they did enforce it.

 

[CaptainMidnight]

Originally posted by DisneyDiver
Here's an idea -

1) A gate at the top of the wooden ramp down to the beach. With big pointy bits on it

2) A Keycard system operated by your roomkey, and for those that forget their key, a numberpad that has the access code changed every week

3) For those that forget their key and the code during the day, have cast member there to open the gate, after asking them for their room details, and noting their name. At night, allow reception to buzz people in using an intercom system.

4) Have the cast members at the bar ask for resort ID when people buy drinks or food (I'd imagine nobody could handle going all day without buying something...)

Wouldn't cost that much, and I'm sure it would save a lot of hassle for DVC, trying to hunt down people who don't stay at the hotel using the pool...

THe current gates require key access for entry into the pool area. What happens is that vero members are courteous to one another and hold the gate open for each other, not realizing they are holding the gate open for a pool crasher, instead of a fellow member. When I'm taking three boys to the pool and all their belongings, toys, etc, people are always kind and try ot help by holding the gate. It's really just common good manners. Pool crashers take advantage of that. That's why we need to go to e wristband system (that could be worn on a bathing suit if needed, to avoid a tan line).

 

[floridafam]

I don't know how on topic this is but.......

We were just looking at pictures from our last trip to VB and there were four pool chairs next to the one my daughter was sitting in and three of them had one sandal a peice and the other one had a BOWLING BALL.

I forgot about this. It's an actual bowling ball. Someone was saving their pool chair with a bowling ball.

I had a good laugh.

 

[fireplug]

Maybe they were afraid that the chair was going to "walk away"


Steve

 

[Maistre Gracey]

Originally posted by floridafam
I don't know how on topic this is but.......

We were just looking at pictures from our last trip to VB and there were four pool chairs next to the one my daughter was sitting in and three of them had one sandal a peice and the other one had a BOWLING BALL.

I forgot about this. It's an actual bowling ball. Someone was saving their pool chair with a bowling ball.

I had a good laugh.

Oh my!!! That is a HOOT!!!
ncligs, any smileys for that???

 

[July]

Just bought into DVC in June. Our home resort is VB. We bought 240 points. Have only had the chance to use a long weekend at OKW in July. I can tell you I am extremely upset about this. When my husband and I tried to visit the BCV just to look around we couldn't because we were not guests.
So what the hecks the problem over at Vero. The maintainence costs are higher they can certainly afford to put someone there to ask for your hotel guest pass. That pool area was closely guarded (like FT. KNOX). Well my money should be going for the same thing at VB by golly miss molly.


July

 

[RJake1]

When I complained to the recreation manager, he told me that he had just finished speaking to a woman about the issue, only she was "on the other side of the fence." I asked if he meant that she had snuck in as a non-guest. He said it appeared that way. So they definitely are aware of the problem.