Pediatric neurologists are scientists and their skilled diagnosis is scientific evidence. They are the ultimate scientific authority on this issue, so anyone approaching this from a truly scientific perspective will seek their input.We (the scientific community) understand very little about the human brain. Unless I can be given solid scientific proof I'd rather not treat my son any differently than I would a "normal" child.
My 74 year old father is autistic. He got diagnosed late in life. He also went to Notre Dame and got a Physics degree, then graduate school for Electrical Engineering, and got married and had 3 kids and had a successful professional career.
My 74 year old father is autistic. He got diagnosed late in life. He also went to Notre Dame and got a Physics degree, then graduate school for Electrical Engineering, and got married and had 3 kids and had a successful professional career.
So what you're saying is that a person with autism can lead a successful life without receiving autism treatments or drugs or special education services from the elementary school.
I totally agree with you.
As for old people- nah. I have hypothyroidism and have been on daily pills since I was diagnosed at 8.We have a meeting with an attorney for a half hour Monday morning where we'll brief him on the facts and get his opinion on next steps. He'll probably have to request the report and supporting documents from CPS and prepare our defense. It'll probably cost us like $5,000 I'm thinking. Hopefully it's not that much.
I've (obviously) spent quite a lot of time researching this "educational neglect" claim and I have found two completely contradictory policies/ laws. This just shows how screwed up the legal /CPS system is.
Both of these are true:
1) Parents have the right to refuse a recommendation of special education services for any reason.
2) A parent who does not allow the school district to provide special education services that the district believes the child needs can be charged with educational neglect.
So you can deny services but then they'll just turn around and go right after you for neglect.
We will appeal the indicated report and if we lose then the punishment is being listed on some registry until our son turns 28 years old. This is not a criminal matter and there are no financial penalties they can assess (at least from my research). I'll confirm this with the attorney Monday.
In the end if they give us a choice of being indicated or agreeing to allow the school to provide special ed services we are going to choose an indicated report of educational neglect. We believe that our son was abused in the special ed program and we will never put him in harm's way again.
I just wonder if this principal can keep filing these claims over and over and over. I mean if we never agree to allow the school to provide special ed services can't he file a CPS claim against us every school year? Or every month? Or every day?
Went to the doctor today to get my blood test results. I have high cholesterol and I have a high platelet count. He said that puts me at a higher risk of heart attack or stroke. I'm going on some daily pills he prescribed to me and he recommended baby aspirin. Anyway this isn't really good news considering the anxiety I've been feeling the past two weeks. But at least I can start taking this medicine now. I thought only old people had to take daily pills. Now that I'm almost 45 does that make me "old people"?
You need to listen to the podcast “do no harm”. It’s about how cps in Texas took kids away from their families for accidents occurring in the home. Not completely what you’re going through but will offer a great insight on how to deal with cps. It’s good you already have an attorney. Good luck with everything. My only opinion would be to, if you could afford it, take him out of public schooling. It’s a huge sacrifice as public schools often have better special Ed service but if you don’t want them I’m sure there’s a school out there that’d be better suited for you all.MAJOR UPDATE
I have a major update today. This is just such BS I'm besides myself. We talked to an attorney this morning. He said that we would lose the educational neglect claim and we should basically just agree to the special ed services.
We talked it over and decided that there's such a short time in the school year we can agree to the services and by the time they start up again school will basically be over. And we decided to move to a new school district over the summer so we'll never have to see these people again.
So I called the abusers at the district and I told them we'd be willing to come back. I sent an email to the head of special ed services and said that we'd like to have our son screened, etc. Then I forwarded that email to the CPS person and I said "we've thought about your recommendation to work with the school. I have contacted the school to begin services. Please take this into consideration on your investigation into educational neglect". And she responded "That's great. However we are going to indicate you for lack of supervision."
I kid you not. They are now going BACK to the original claim.
So I called an attorney we talked to a month ago that we liked. He said to call him back if we're indicated. We put down a $3,500 retainer and he's going to represent us. In his opinion CPS was going to go forward with BOTH claims (educational neglect and lack of supervision) but they were trying to bully us back into the district's special ed program. And I guess it worked because I can't go to the special ed person I emailed today and said I changed my mind. And they'd just probably reinstate the educational neglect accusation if I did.
In one way I feel better having an attorney take over from here. No, I don't like spending the money. But I just can't take this anymore. We are moving over the summer to a new district to get this behind us. Unfortunately the attorney said the new district will get all of the information from our current district so it won't really be a clean slate.
Explore homeschooling. https://hslda.org/?gclid=Cj0KCQjw1P...RvyYJ_w6IDAkQ1Q9xNyiVWF5vJgYWMgQaArDAEALw_wcBMAJOR UPDATE
I have a major update today. This is just such BS I'm besides myself. We talked to an attorney this morning. He said that we would lose the educational neglect claim and we should basically just agree to the special ed services.
We talked it over and decided that there's such a short time in the school year we can agree to the services and by the time they start up again school will basically be over. And we decided to move to a new school district over the summer so we'll never have to see these people again.
So I called the abusers at the district and I told them we'd be willing to come back. I sent an email to the head of special ed services and said that we'd like to have our son screened, etc. Then I forwarded that email to the CPS person and I said "we've thought about your recommendation to work with the school. I have contacted the school to begin services. Please take this into consideration on your investigation into educational neglect". And she responded "That's great. However we are going to indicate you for lack of supervision."
I kid you not. They are now going BACK to the original claim.
So I called an attorney we talked to a month ago that we liked. He said to call him back if we're indicated. We put down a $3,500 retainer and he's going to represent us. In his opinion CPS was going to go forward with BOTH claims (educational neglect and lack of supervision) but they were trying to bully us back into the district's special ed program. And I guess it worked because I can't go to the special ed person I emailed today and said I changed my mind. And they'd just probably reinstate the educational neglect accusation if I did.
In one way I feel better having an attorney take over from here. No, I don't like spending the money. But I just can't take this anymore. We are moving over the summer to a new district to get this behind us. Unfortunately the attorney said the new district will get all of the information from our current district so it won't really be a clean slate.
MAJOR UPDATE
I have a major update today. This is just such BS I'm besides myself. We talked to an attorney this morning. He said that we would lose the educational neglect claim and we should basically just agree to the special ed services.
We talked it over and decided that there's such a short time in the school year we can agree to the services and by the time they start up again school will basically be over. And we decided to move to a new school district over the summer so we'll never have to see these people again.
So I called the abusers at the district and I told them we'd be willing to come back. I sent an email to the head of special ed services and said that we'd like to have our son screened, etc. Then I forwarded that email to the CPS person and I said "we've thought about your recommendation to work with the school. I have contacted the school to begin services. Please take this into consideration on your investigation into educational neglect". And she responded "That's great. However we are going to indicate you for lack of supervision."
I kid you not. They are now going BACK to the original claim.
So I called an attorney we talked to a month ago that we liked. He said to call him back if we're indicated. We put down a $3,500 retainer and he's going to represent us. In his opinion CPS was going to go forward with BOTH claims (educational neglect and lack of supervision) but they were trying to bully us back into the district's special ed program. And I guess it worked because I can't go to the special ed person I emailed today and said I changed my mind. And they'd just probably reinstate the educational neglect accusation if I did.
In one way I feel better having an attorney take over from here. No, I don't like spending the money. But I just can't take this anymore. We are moving over the summer to a new district to get this behind us. Unfortunately the attorney said the new district will get all of the information from our current district so it won't really be a clean slate.
I have to meet with the assistant to the person who lied on the PWN tomorrow. That will begin the process. They have to start testing from scratch then they have to write recommendations, then we have to have a committee on special education meeting, then they can start providing services. So I don't expect anything to happen until June 1 and our school ends about June 25 so it's like 3 weeks of services. That's why we are doing this: to appease CPS and it will only be a few weeks then we're moving.I assume they’ll write an IEP? That will go with him to the new school. But how many days do you have left? we have 28 with a half time psych.... so only 14 possible days for testing. If your son misses a few.... he might not get tested in time....I can pretty much guarantee that they’ll let the new school know you were in the process of testing though, since this has been so contentious.
No good. CPS will definitely charge us with abuse if we home school. We are on their radar and they will not accept us giving our "special needs severely autistic" son no special ed services.