Potential UPSIDES to DVC/RCI Relationship to the average DVC owner

[Brian Noble]

As I understand it, the RCI Hospitality award is only based on certain comment-card questons having to do with guest service: check-in efficiency, friendliness, etc.. It does not measure unit quality/resort amenities, etc.

That's the sense in which there isn't really an analog in II.

 

[utahkennedys]

Hilton? Some Wyndham? A few Spinnaker? Diamond? the newer BlueGreen resorts? Club Intrawest? A whole bunch in Whistler?

Sure it is not the BIG name of Marriott, but trading through RCI I haven't been disappointed very often. Keep in mind as a DVC member you should get top pick (trading power).

Nope, sorry, these are not on par with Marriott and Westin (other than the Hiltons which have very limited locations and their current expansion plans include Orlando...again). Wyndham points can be bought and rented on eBay for pennies on the dollar (we've done this many times), and the others are definitely tier 2 or less.

 

[mark&sue]

I had a browse through the directory and it looked really good for us in the UK as there were quite a few ski resorts in france and some resorts in Spain. I have a holiday home in Spain which we drive to and it would be great to stop over in France for a while, as our pound to the euro is really bad it will save us staying a hotel with cash.

Looking forward to seeing how it will all work. I got a resort in the UK very easily through II the first time I tried so hope it will be as easy with this new lot.


susan

 

[dizzneebabe]

You can take this for what it's worth, but we were just told by a guide at WDW (member mixer) that they expect "other" organizations to follow DVC and partner with RCI.

Why that would be true, I'm not sure...considering it seems hard for others to trade INTO DVC.

 

[DsnysGr8t]

I had put a trade request in for Ireland last July for a trip we want to take in 2010. When I called DVC about how this was going to be handled, I was assured that my $75 deposit would not be lost and that 500 of RCI's 5000 locations would be on the "approved" list.

My MIL owns two RCI timeshares in Cabo. Very difficult to trade because she's locked into a specific week of the year. We traded our DVC into II in '03to a resort in Southern England. It was fantastic.

 

[Brian Noble]

Here's what I can see in RCI right now for Ireland in 2010. I have no idea if this will be on "The List." Quite possibly not---it's relatively basic, though well-located. A couple other resorts show up, but only for 2009 weeks.

Connemara Country Cottages (#0385)
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Leam East
County Galway,
Ireland
91-552514
www.connemaracountrycottages.com/

Units that meet your criteria Total Units Available: 17
Unit Type Max Occup
(Privacy) Kitchen Check-In Date Check-Out Date
3 BR 8 (4) Full Saturday, January 02, 2010 Saturday, January 09, 2010
3 BR 8 (6) Full Saturday, January 09, 2010 Saturday, January 16, 2010
3 BR 8 (4) Full Saturday, January 16, 2010 Saturday, January 23, 2010
3 BR 8 (6) Full Saturday, January 16, 2010 Saturday, January 23, 2010
3 BR 8 (4) Full Saturday, January 30, 2010 Saturday, February 06, 2010
3 BR 8 (6) Full Saturday, January 30, 2010 Saturday, February 06, 2010
3 BR 8 (6) Full Saturday, February 06, 2010 Saturday, February 13, 2010
3 BR 8 (6) Full Saturday, February 13, 2010 Saturday, February 20, 2010
3 BR 8 (4) Full Saturday, March 06, 2010 Saturday, March 13, 2010
3 BR 8 (4) Full Saturday, March 13, 2010 Saturday, March 20, 2010
2 BR 6 (6) Full Saturday, March 20, 2010 Saturday, March 27, 2010
2 BR 6 (6) Full Saturday, October 16, 2010 Saturday, October 23, 2010
3 BR 8 (4) Full Saturday, October 16, 2010 Saturday, October 23, 2010
3 BR 8 (6) Full Saturday, October 23, 2010 Saturday, October 30, 2010
3 BR 8 (4) Full Saturday, October 23, 2010 Saturday, October 30, 2010
3 BR 8 (6) Full Saturday, November 13, 2010 Saturday, November 20, 2010

I don't see anything in IRL in Interval for the next two years.

 

[calgarygary]

You can take this for what it's worth, but we were just told by a guide at WDW (member mixer) that they expect "other" organizations to follow DVC and partner with RCI.

Why that would be true, I'm not sure...considering it seems hard for others to trade INTO DVC.

Why would you think a guide at WDW would have any accurate information regarding the inner workings of II, RCI or their participating resorts? You don't really think that what DVC does impacts upon Marriott, Starwood and the other major chains do you? The guide at best is repeating corporate speak to justify a decision that is best for the corporation and not the DVC members. Regarding trading into DVC, there are frequent sightings reported on TUG and I have seen even July 4th stays on II.

 

[Starr W.]

You can take this for what it's worth, but we were just told by a guide at WDW (member mixer) that they expect "other" organizations to follow DVC and partner with RCI.

Why that would be true, I'm not sure...considering it seems hard for others to trade INTO DVC.

It's not that hard to trade into DVC, my 2br Starwood ski week would see everthing. I've seen the major holidays, though not NYE week. Also have seen GV's at SSR and HHI.

 

[tomandrobin]

You can take this for what it's worth, but we were just told by a guide at WDW (member mixer) that they expect "other" organizations to follow DVC and partner with RCI.

Why that would be true, I'm not sure...considering it seems hard for others to trade INTO DVC.

This is a false statement. In fact, Starwood has been removing its dual affiliate resorts to II only.

Also, I have seen all sorts of weeks and all of the resorts, even a three bedroom once in a while at OKW.

 

[Dean]

You can take this for what it's worth, but we were just told by a guide at WDW (member mixer) that they expect "other" organizations to follow DVC and partner with RCI.

Why that would be true, I'm not sure...considering it seems hard for others to trade INTO DVC.

I would agree that it's unlikely a DVC guide would have any info in this area. Also as posted, DVC is not that hard to trade into with DVC.

 

[Starr W.]

This is a false statement. In fact, Starwood has been removing its dual affiliate resorts to II only.

Also, I have seen all sorts of weeks and all of the resorts, even a three bedroom once in a while at OKW.

Hey Tomandrobin, my Lakeside Terrace week is still II/RCI, I got a card from RCI that they would like me to consider them for my week. Would give me a discount on exchange fees. (I do have an account with them for my BG week and listed my LT week also).

 

[tomandrobin]

Hey Tomandrobin, my Lakeside Terrace week is still II/RCI, I got a card from RCI that they would like me to consider them for my week. Would give me a discount on exchange fees. (I do have an account with them for my BG week and listed my LT week also).

That is true, but look at what Starwood has been doing with the resorts like Vistana Resort and Vistana Beach.

 

[Puget Peach]

Being a Worldmark owner, I could join either RCI or II, or both. I originally chose II simply because they traded with DVC. I've got two weeks at Saratoga Springs in a one bedroom September 2009 through II. I do know that alot of properties offered through RCI are older, less resort(ish) properties that II will not accept for trade. It will be interesting to see how this works for DVC. I am thinking very seriously about buying some OKW points via resale later in 2009...

 

[Dean]

Hey Tomandrobin, my Lakeside Terrace week is still II/RCI, I got a card from RCI that they would like me to consider them for my week. Would give me a discount on exchange fees. (I do have an account with them for my BG week and listed my LT week also).

I don't think the resort or system can take away (or is likely to) your option to trade with any given company if it were there previously. Usually these type of changes only affect members going forward, not existing members who had the option in place already to trade with the other exchange company. OTOH, in most cases new members to the system only get the current exchange option.

 

[Mr. Baloo]

let's hope that it's based on filtering out bad quality.

You say this as if you have stayed at a bad quality RCI resort? What was the name of the resort of "bad quality" that you have stayed at??? I am sure now one else wants to stay there as well.

my 2 cents.... all of these deals have good and bad, and you cant please everyone....

 

[ATCMickey]

To anyone in the know:

I'm going to show my ignorance here and ask a question I know nothing about...


Contractually, who is empowered to make decisions regarding which company/ies to partner with for exchanges?

Let me clarify...I realize that contractually DVC probably is not required to provide any exchange partnership. But what entity debates, discusses, and votes on what affiliations DVC will partner into for exchanges? The reason I ask is to try to understand what, if any, motive might be behind the decision. If the decision is solely Disney's, then I might speculate that there was a financial incentive (in Disney's favor) to Disney to change from II to RCI. But if an association board partook in the decision (presumably with DVC owners comprising part of the board) then one might presume that there were perceived tangible benefits to members that we were not receiving from II.

Anyone have some insight into who would be involved in the decision? It might shed some light on motive to know.

Thanks in advance

 

[spiceycat]

Disney only!

 

[Dean]

To anyone in the know:

I'm going to show my ignorance here and ask a question I know nothing about...


Contractually, who is empowered to make decisions regarding which company/ies to partner with for exchanges?

Let me clarify...I realize that contractually DVC probably is not required to provide any exchange partnership. But what entity debates, discusses, and votes on what affiliations DVC will partner into for exchanges? The reason I ask is to try to understand what, if any, motive might be behind the decision. If the decision is solely Disney's, then I might speculate that there was a financial incentive (in Disney's favor) to Disney to change from II to RCI. But if an association board partook in the decision (presumably with DVC owners comprising part of the board) then one might presume that there were perceived tangible benefits to members that we were not receiving from II.

Anyone have some insight into who would be involved in the decision? It might shed some light on motive to know.

Thanks in advance

This is decided and managed by DVD, not DVC. There is no direct member input to either the BOD or these type of decisions.

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You say this as if you have stayed at a bad quality RCI resort? What was the name of the resort of "bad quality" that you have stayed at??? I am sure now one else wants to stay there as well.

my 2 cents.... all of these deals have good and bad, and you cant please everyone....

There are tons of RCI and II resorts I would not stay at and an even larger group that I would not trade the requisite DVC points for. DVC and this forum are not going to be able to track these well other than to decide whether to keep or drop a given resort from the list. Redweeks, TUG, Timesharing Today and even trip advisors will give you more specific resort info in many cases.