possible WDW food poisoning?

[PeterPan09]

Like I said before, I am not going to argue with you about it. I truly don't care what you think about our situation. I doubt me sharing my experience would cause anyone to not want to eat there, it doesn't make me not want to eat there. Obviously, I should just keep my mouth shut and not share any experiences since the Disney-does-no-wrong people are out to prove me wrong.

Of course it would cause someone not to want to eat there! The one constant here is the fear of nasty stomach issues at Disney-nobody wants to get that EVER, but even more so on a vacation that they've waited all year for.

It's not about Disney-does-no-wrong, it's about not suggesting that dining establishment X caused your sister's illness when factually it's not likely. The incubation period for E.Coli would be the same if the dining establishment was on Disney property or not.

 

[Orlando313]

Of course it would cause someone not to want to eat there! The one constant here is the fear of nasty stomach issues at Disney-nobody wants to get that EVER, but even more so on a vacation that they've waited all year for.

It's not about Disney-does-no-wrong, it's about not suggesting that dining establishment X caused your sister's illness when factually it's not likely. The incubation period for E.Coli would be the same if the dining establishment was on Disney property or not.

Well if you didn't want to hear about cases of food poisoning at Disney, you shouldn't have opened the thread. But obviously, I was stupid to share my experience since I have been attacked, you'd think I would have learned my lesson by now after being on the threads for several months. I shared what her gastroenterologist and infectious disease doctor both stated. Take from it what you will. I fail to see the point in people continuing to argue something that you obviously weren't there for and did not experience yourself.

 

[PeterPan09]

Well if you didn't want to hear about cases of food poisoning at Disney, you shouldn't have opened the thread. But obviously, I was stupid to share my experience since I have been attacked, you'd think I would have learned my lesson by now after being on the threads for several months. I shared what her gastroenterologist and infectious disease doctor both stated. Take from it what you will. I fail to see the point in people continuing to argue something that you obviously weren't there for and did not experience yourself.

Where did you post that her gastroenterologist and infectious disease doctor both said that her illness was caused by that particular dining establishment? I looked back in the thread and didn't see that fact.

Would they not have contacted said dining establishment or the local health dept? Would that not have been reported by the local news so that others who ate there could be alerted?

We've been hearing about an illness outbreak in Flagler county schools for about a week on the local news, so I'm shocked that a dining establishment at Disney World that caused such a serious food poisoning incident wasn't reported.

You made an accusation against a particular dining establishment and have ignored facts posted that contradict your accusation. I don't care if it's Disney or McDonald's or the local Chinese place-it's not fair to blame someone for something that isn't their fault.

 

[Orlando313]

Where did you post that her gastroenterologist and infectious disease doctor both said that her illness was caused by that particular dining establishment? I looked back in the thread and didn't see that fact.

Would they not have contacted said dining establishment or the local health dept? Would that not have been reported by the local news so that others who ate there could be alerted?

We've been hearing about an illness outbreak in Flagler county schools for about a week on the local news, so I'm shocked that a dining establishment at Disney World that caused such a serious food poisoning incident wasn't reported.

You made an accusation against a particular dining establishment and have ignored facts posted that contradict your accusation. I don't care if it's Disney or McDonald's or the local Chinese place-it's not fair to blame someone for something that isn't their fault.

I stated in the thread that she was assigned four different doctor's during her weeklong stay. Two of those doctor's stated it was from her meal earlier that day. I have no idea what their protocal is on those kinds of cases.

I'm not ignoring any facts, each case is different, people are different, and I take extreme offense to you implying that I'm a liar and attacking me for sharing my experience. I don't believe these message boards are intended for arguments. I understand that people are free to share opposing opinions and you have shared yours completely, and I can respect that if you choose not to believe me. However, I feel it unnecessary for you to continue to attack me. I have no further words on the subject, people can take what they want from my posts, and people can take what they want from your posts. I truly truly doubt anyone will refrain from visiting the restaurant due to my family's experiences, and if they do, I'm sure they will find somewhere else to eat, even though you would run the same food poisoning risks at Japan or at any other restaurant.

If you would like to pursue the topic, feel free to by yourself, but I refuse to further defend myself from harrassment of others due to my own experiences. It's a waste of my time and yours.

 

[PeterPan09]

I stated in the thread that she was assigned four different doctor's during her weeklong stay. Two of those doctor's stated it was from her meal earlier that day. I have no idea what their protocal is on those kinds of cases.

I'm not ignoring any facts, each case is different, people are different, and I take extreme offense to you implying that I'm a liar and attacking me for sharing my experience. I don't believe these message boards are intended for arguments. I understand that people are free to share opposing opinions and you have shared yours completely, and I can respect that if you choose not to believe me. However, I feel it unnecessary for you to continue to attack me. I have no further words on the subject, people can take what they want from my posts, and people can take what they want from your posts. I truly truly doubt anyone will refrain from visiting the restaurant due to my family's experiences, and if they do, I'm sure they will find somewhere else to eat, even though you would run the same food poisoning risks at Japan or at any other restaurant.

If you would like to pursue the topic, feel free to by yourself, but I refuse to further defend myself from harrassment of others due to my own experiences. It's a waste of my time and yours.

Despite your insistence...you were not "attacked" or "subjected to harassment" by me or anyone else. You made an accusation and when facts were presented that contradicted your accusation-you got defensive. Also despite your insistence, people will avoid a dining establishment based on ONE story from ONE person who got sick after they ate there. You're right that they take the same risk at any dining place, but that doesn't matter-ONE person told them that they or someone in their party got Food Poisoning from that place and by golly, they're never going there again and they're gonna tell all their friends too!

Word of mouth is HUGE when it comes to restaurants and can make or break them. Sure, the place in question is not going to get hurt-it's Disney-but what if it were a Mom and Pop place? Oh...yeah...it's no fun blaming a Mom and Pop place for food poisoning is it?

 

[BLTLDZ]

I agree sometimes people assume it's food poisoning when it's really a virus. When you have full blown food poisoning there is no doubt! When you are throwing up every 15-20 min for several hours that is not a virus. Generally you feel better within 12 hours after you became sick. I feel bad when I hear about children coming down with this at Disney. How miserable.

Totally true....I know this first hand....Had an awful bout of food poisoning last summer from what we think was bad cheese. IN Ny, not WDW, FYI.

Anyway, ate the vegatable pizza with cheese friday night, about 7:30 pm.

Woke up saturday AM, feel queasy...Then the vomiting started. YUCK.
Every 5-10 minutes, both myself and my fiance....everyone that had gotten sick, had eaten the veggie pizza...Ugh...pure misery for a full day....Don't wish that on anybody.

 

[BLTLDZ]

Or are you making an assumption based on a doctor's general statement about how E. coli is spread?

You're making a serious charge about a restaurant at Epcot.

Are you kidding me???

Sheesh, relax people....The poster is simply sharing an experience!!!
We all love disney, but are we going to fight over a possible food borne illness??? It happens everywhere!! Even at Beloved disney. Would be ignorant to think it doesn't happen.
When I cook chicken, I clean it on top of plastic baggies in my sink. When I am finished I clorox everything, including the cutting board that the chicken did not touch. I am a freak about these things...I realize when I go out, this may not be the case....I can only hope and pray that all food establishments practice the same levels of caution.

 

[Uncleromulus]

In the spirit of polywackets post, have a look at Food Poisoning from a legal definition in Florida. It's quite hard to prove w/o certain specific tests that establish a DIRECT connection between a specific food and a SPECIFIC illness.
Just a doctor saying it "sure sounds like food poisoning" isn't enough.

And as doconeill suggests, multiple cases from the same food source or restaurant may suggest genuine food poisoning. But one of a kind individual cases of illness that I'm reading about in this thread may certainly be something other than food poisoning.

 

[Horace Horsecollar]

Are you kidding me???

Sheesh, relax people....The poster is simply sharing an experience!!!

The incident that Orlando313 is describing involves potentially deadly E. Coli bacteria, not merely run-of-the-mill gastroenteritis.

Saying that the illness was caused by E. coli from "Japan at Epcot" is a very serious charge. I would not eat at any restaurant that has been proven to be a source of E. coli. Any restaurant that serves food contaminated with E-coli deserves to go out of business.

I have no reason to doubt Orlando313 when she wrote that doctors diagnosed her sister's illness as being caused by E. Coli bacteria. I also believe that that doctors explained that E. Coli can come from a restaurant meal if the restaurant has a food supplier that provided tainted food (due to improper operations) and the restaurant did not cook the food properly... or that the restaurant introduced the E. Coli into previously "clean" food due to improper sanitation/hygiene.

Where I question the description of the incident is that the doctors supposedly pinpointed the source of the E. Coli to eating lunch at "Japan at Epcot" that very same day, despite the incubation period of E. coli.

I would also not expect a doctor to claim that a healthy newborn human baby was conceived just one week ago, when full-term pregnancy is 9 months.

I wonder if there was simply a misunderstanding between the doctors and Orlando313's sister. As I wrote before, it's human nature to think that any illness involving the digestive tract is caused by the most recent meal.

Finally, it would have been national news if health officials had determined that Disney's "Japan at Epcot" served meals contaminated by E. coli.

 

[DizCaptain]

The incident that Orlando313 is describing involves potentially deadly E. Coli bacteria, not merely run-of-the-mill gastroenteritis.

Saying that the illness was caused by E. coli from "Japan at Epcot" is a very serious charge. I would not eat at any restaurant that has been proven to be a source of E. coli. Any restaurant that serves food contaminated with E-coli deserves to go out of business.

I have no reason to doubt Orlando313 when she wrote that doctors diagnosed her sister's illness as being caused by E. Coli bacteria. I also believe that that doctors explained that E. Coli can come from a restaurant meal if the restaurant has a food supplier that provided tainted food (due to improper operations) and the restaurant did not cook the food properly... or that the restaurant introduced the E. Coli into previously "clean" food due to improper sanitation/hygiene.

Where I question the description of the incident is that the doctors supposedly pinpointed the source of the E. Coli to eating lunch at "Japan at Epcot" that very same day, despite the incubation period of E. coli.

I would also not expect a doctor to claim that a healthy newborn human baby was conceived just one week ago, when full-term pregnancy is 9 months.

I wonder if there was simply a misunderstanding between the doctors and Orlando313's sister. As I wrote before, it's human nature to think that any illness involving the digestive tract is caused by the most recent meal.

Finally, it would have been national news if health officials had determined that Disney's "Japan at Epcot" served meals contaminated by E. coli.

You do realize washing food doesnt just kill bacteria right, unless you use soap in which case it would be poisoned in other ways...seriously the discussion is getting real extreme from a simple story. Theres food poisonings everywhere, just one isolated incident shouldnt set off a crusade to close the sourced establishment. Sure E.Coli is dangerous but what sickness doesnt have the potential to be? Also, saying meals as in many meals were served with E.Coli is false. Like I said, isolated incident and usually it isnt the restaurant's fault because people order things raw and sometimes its just bad meat. Lighten up on the extremities of these things...

 

[joliesmom]

In the spirit of polywackets post, have a look at Food Poisoning from a legal definition in Florida. It's quite hard to prove w/o certain specific tests that establish a DIRECT connection between a specific food and a SPECIFIC illness.
Just a doctor saying it "sure sounds like food poisoning" isn't enough.

And as doconeill suggests, multiple cases from the same food source or restaurant may suggest genuine food poisoning. But one of a kind individual cases of illness that I'm reading about in this thread may certainly be something other than food poisoning.

I believe the posters sister was in ICU with numerous Drs confirming e coli. I'm not sure why it is so hard to think that someone had gotten e coli from a WDW restaurant. One confirmed case of e coli will not shut down a restaurant, in fact it takes numerous confirmed cases for the government to act on it. Chances are more people were infected but their symptoms were passed off as "a virus". E. coli is more hazardous to children, older people, and frail or sick people so their symtpoms will be more severe. What's not hard to prove is that if she had eaten at only WDW restaurants for days prior and she was diagnosed with e coli then she most likely picked it up from WDW, remember 1 to 8 days for symptoms.

 

[Horace Horsecollar]

What's not hard to prove is that if she had eaten at only WDW restaurants for days prior and she was diagnosed with e coli then she most likely picked it up from WDW, remember 1 to 8 days for symptoms.

Yes. I agree.

The poster blamed her sister's E. coli specifically on "Japan at Epoct."

If she ate all her meals for all 8 (or 10) days prior to her symptoms at "Japan and Epcot," and ate nothing elsewhere, then there would be very little doubt (although it's also possible to contract E coli from contaminated surfaces).

But if she only ate a single meal there on the same day that her symptoms developed, then there's a lot of doubt.