Possible Debate inspired by Desperate Housewives.

[BlingBlingJoe]

Real life, no. DIS-life, yes.



LOL. There's been lots of talk about it, the conversations just end rather quickly. (I suspect you already know that, though. )

Not sure what you mean.

Did she get so mad at goofygirl that she decided to quit the DIS?

It seems it happens so often that people get on one another's nerves and someone decides to leave.

So Snoopy is not dead?

 

[dis ms.]

Did she get so mad at goofygirl?

Yes. Quite frequently, I would imagine.

she decided to quit the DIS?:

Uh, noooo.

So Snoopy is not dead?

Nope.

 

[mickey65]

The question in person might be out of the house but she is not gone.

 

[TDC Nala]

Oh, and I don't need anyone to defend me because I don't happen to have any children.

What happened to Snoopy? I don't really know her but she's been posting here a looong time and I bet she wouldn't run over this kind of stuff.

 

[kadaten]

Having said that, I have worked places in the past that did (ie, I worked every Christmas Eve in retail, because I didn't have kids and everyone else did). I don't think it ever really bothered me though.

Last year I was in retail at Christmas for the first time ever. Our store had 4 managers. 2 worked Christmas Eve--one with kids worked the morning shift so she could have church/dinner with her family, while the only one without kids at home closed on Christmas Eve. In return, those 2 ladies got the Day After Christmas off (one of the busiest/worst days to be in retail) and the 2 of us (both with kids) that had Christmas Eve off worked it with no complaints. It's all about being FLEXIBLE, not being fair.

As another poster said, working moms with children often have their careers suffer because they do have family needs that sometimes preclude work.....while those without those needs are not held back by them. In actuality, one of the moms may be the better/more qualified employee, but the one without kids may get rewarded due to availability.

The first day of school is a huge deal for all members of a family. I have had jobs in the past, before I had children, and it was just a given that those with families got first pick of days/time/vacation off. I'm not saying that is right or wrong,I never really gave it a second thought. I certainly don't think it is something to stew over and be bitter about (not saying you, just making a statement).

MTE.

I also see both sides of the coin and I'm usually the first one that says, "Aw Joey's first day of school! sure I'll cover for ya! Bring back pictures!"

The part about compensation is what I'm talking about. Is it fair to let mom's flex their time but not let childless people?

~Amanda

Personally, I think if companies were more accomodating to all employees, then they'd have happier employees all around. BUT, that would mean that we trust everybody to follow the rules and not abuse them, and you know how that goes! That said, the ONE person who abuses personal time at my husband's office is a "Childfree by Choice" lady who routinely calls in 5 mimutes before her shift is to start on a phone she knows my DH (her supervisor) will not answer. Office policy does not prevent this (there is no requirement that you give a day's notice before taking personal time) but she is the only one who doesn't. She usually does it when she has a project due. No wonder he's looking for ways to change the "use of personal time" rules....but she's a fed. govt. employee, so it isn't likely.

 

[kadaten]

Your post reminded me of something that a few of us at work were discussing.
For maternity leave I would receive 13 weeks 100% paid time off. For adoption leave I would receive only 8 weeks paid time off. I think that is a bunch of bull as well.

~Amanda

Did you consider that one of them involves medical procedures while the other does not? Mom will need to recuperate from a birth, but may only need to recuperate from jet lag for the adoption. They both involve new situations to get used to, new family members to love and enjoy, etc. but giving birth is way different from bringing home a newly adopted child. 5 weeks may be a bit much extra....but I just don't see those situations as equal.

 

[BlingBlingJoe]

Oh, and I don't need anyone to defend me because I don't happen to have any children.

What happened to Snoopy? I don't really know her but she's been posting here a looong time and I bet she wouldn't run over this kind of stuff.

Not sure either. I thought she was dead from the things that were said, but that's not true. Then they said she didn't leave the DIS? The only thing I can think of is that she is leaving the country or something, I can't figure it out.

 

[dcgrumpy]

Did you consider that one of them involves medical procedures while the other does not? Mom will need to recuperate from a birth, but may only need to recuperate from jet lag for the adoption. They both involve new situations to get used to, new family members to love and enjoy, etc. but giving birth is way different from bringing home a newly adopted child. 5 weeks may be a bit much extra....but I just don't see those situations as equal.

ITA

That actually sounds very generous to me. I work for a large corporation, we receive 6 weeks paid disability after having a baby. We can take up to a year unpaid whether we have a baby or adopt, none of our "maternity leave" is paid.

 

[goofygirl]

Umm, do you realize that you're arguing with someone who (unfortunately) is no longer here? Therefore, she won't be responding with any name calling and/or accusations. She won't be responding at all (again, I say, unfortunately).

Huh?? No, I didn't realize. If there was news about her leaving, or something of that nature, I didn't see it.

I'm done arguing anyhow ( I know I said that before, but I really mean it this time!!).