Pop Century Room Renovations

[DisneyMom93]

I thought the Murphy was only to be a double/full?
I have no clue where I got that idea from.

That has been the speculation from the beginning. Only recently a couple of people staying at Pop posted they were told the Murphy beds are queen. In the diagram the bed frames look to be the same size.

 

[mikegood2]

Do all the Pop rooms have an adjoining door with the room next door?

Oh good. For some reason, those things always bothered me. Only useful if you are staying with the people who are next door to you.

I can definitely see why it would bother you, but for larger groups that need 2 or more rooms, connecting rooms are very important. We have 2 rooms for a party of 5, with 2 girls 10 or under, so connecting rooms are our top priority.

I would think desirable more than important. With connecting rooms not ever being guaranteed, it would behoove parties to remember the a

Nope, important, or even a necessity, would be the correct word for some people. I'm also aware that connecting rooms are not guaranteed, but from everything I've heard resorts really do make an effort to accommodate groups. For our previous two trips (2011 and 2013) not being able to guarantee connecting rooms kept us from booking at a "Disney Resort". My two nieces were too young then to to chance not getting connecting rooms. We wanted/needed to have a room that the 3 adults could hang out in when the girls when the girls took a nap or went to bed early. This year we decided it was worth the risk and the girls,were old enough that we could deal with the possibility of not getting connecting rooms.

For our previous trips, this ended up being a blessing because we ended up booking an executive suite at the Swan/Dolphin. We loved those suites and it woulda been what we would be staying in this year, but with construction they didn't have any available for our dates.

Disney, of all the hospitality industry, provides the most flexibility relating to number of guests in a single unit. That guests choose not to reserve those options doesn't make connecting rooms a necessity. There's always a baby monitor for the situation described.

I have no idea why you responded to my original post, or why your response annoys me as much as is does. Either way, it's great that you feel that desirable is a better choice of words, but to me, and I'm sure others, important is a better choice of words.

Also, at no point did I mention that Disney needs to make connecting rooms a necessity or that they "owe" anything to guests. I agree, Disney has a history of being extremely accommodating and flexible with guests. All I was saying is that for some people, connecting rooms is very important.

Anyways, hopefully I'll get a good nights sleep tonight and will be in a better mood tomorrow. Who knows, maybe I'll reread this and wonder why I felt a desire to respond.

 

[scrappinginontario]

I thought the Murphy was only to be a double/full?
I have no clue where I got that idea from.

That was the speculation for a long time.

One of the many questions we're excited to get answers about is what size is the Murphy bed mattress.

 

[FinnsMom7]

I agree with a point made earlier - having both be same size makes more sense for mousekeeping since they will need two sets per room - unless a king - but I am sure they have it all down to a science

 

[HopperFan]

I thought the Murphy was only to be a double/full?
I have no clue where I got that idea from.

We don't know yet. That won't be known for sure until some folks are actually staying in there.

Given that the AoA suites don't even have Queen Murphy, and their space is much larger and their attached tables much larger ... it almost makes no sense for these murphy beds to be Queens.

If they are .......... I don't think this will be anywhere in my budget once it's all complete and restructured.

 

[DisneyMom93]

I have no idea why you responded to my original post, or why your response annoys me as much as is does. Either way, it's great that you feel that desirable is a better choice of words, but to me, and I'm sure others, important is a better choice of words.

Also, at no point did I mention that Disney needs to make connecting rooms a necessity or that they "owe" anything to guests. I agree, Disney has a history of being extremely accommodating and flexible with guests. All I was saying is that for some people, connecting rooms is very important.

Anyways, hopefully I'll get a good nights sleep tonight and will be in a better mood tomorrow. Who knows, maybe I'll reread this and wonder why I felt a desire to respond.

One person said they don't like a connecting door in their room. I agree. I don't either.

You said you, and others, find it important. I agree.

If I had more than two kids I would find it very important. A baby monitor wouldn't cut it for me. To check my kids I wouldn't want to have to leave my room (half dressed), go outside, and key into another room.

I'm not sure what the argument is here for some people.

 

[michellex0o]

When are these available to stay in ? I booked a room just now for next friday and ahe said the room is going to be one of the new ones but i havent seen anyone stay in there yet ? I hope so !

 

[HopperFan]

When are these available to stay in ? I booked a room just now for next friday and ahe said the room is going to be one of the new ones but i havent seen anyone stay in there yet ? I hope so !

Folks on phone can make no promises, do not room assignments and have no idea what is happening at resort level.

The rooms were supposed to open in June per some convos by posters with resort CMs but so far no reports of them being open.

 

[avic77]

Looking at the punch sheet it's difficult to determine if a cot, pack n play, or twin air mattress will fit anywhere. I wish the dresser and coffee bar were together and pushed to one side or the other. I guess we may be able to scoot the dresser toward the coffee tower and put a cot in front of the connecting room door?

 

[mikegood2]

One person said they don't like a connecting door in their room. I agree. I don't either.

You said you, and others, find it important. I agree.

If I had more than two kids I would find it very important. A baby monitor wouldn't cut it for me. To check my kids I wouldn't want to have to leave my room (half dressed), go outside, and key into another room.

I'm not sure what the argument is here for some people.

Thanks DisneyMom93, I agree with both sides of the connecting rooms discussion also. Also agree about the baby monitor, guess it would be doable, but far from ideal. If I was in that situation I'd probably order a wireless baby video from Amazon with next day shipping.

Also, not sure what the argument is/was either. I'm sure I'm overreacting, but something bugged me about someone correcting a word I that I feel was a correct word to use. Not sure why she had a issue with me using the word important? Who knows, maybe we both just read our posts different than what they were intended to be?

 

[bluezy]

I could be wrong. The footprint on the floorplan shows that when it is down it takes up more space than the queen (which would make since given the mechanics) and when you compare these pics to those over at AOA this appears taller (in relation to standard doorframe cutout, I'm looking at the bathroom for reference here and the door to the bedroom at AOA). The frame on the AOA for width of the full while it has some extra wide to accommodate the frame still appears fairly streamline.

Pop rooms are 260 square feet.
The most reasonable room measurement for a unit that size would be 20' deep by 13' wide.
Some of that 20' is the bathroom; since the standard tub is five feet, this reduces the room to 15'.
Queen beds are 60" wide each, or five feet.
This leaves five feet total for the space from the bathroom wall to the bed, from the bed to the Murphy bed, and from the Murphy bed to the door.

Yes, and it looks like the three night stands in between are each about 12-15" max. The entry door is most likely 36 inches, and in the diagram it is shown open. It comes to about where the first night stand starts. Although I think that adds up to about six feet, plus the two queen beds for a total of 10 feet. That's about 16 feet. Hmmm.

Just in case anyone is bored today, here's a link to the Inova website listing the dimensions of their beds.

https://static1.squarespace.com/sta...ff0d5/1494037229114/Inova+TableBed+Spec+Sheet

Looks like all the cabinets are the same height regardless of the size of the bed (with the exception of the Cali King) so we can't determine the size based on the height of the cabinet. Also, it looks like the width of the cabinet is about 5-6" inches more than the size of the actual bed and anywhere from 5-10" taller/longer than the length of the mattress. So I don't think we're going to be able to determine the size of the actual bed based on the estimated dimensions we're seeing on the drawings. Right now, I'm thinking that there's a possibility that the bed will be an XL full. I know some people have mentioned that it would be a pain for housekeeping to have different size sheets for the same room. But that's not an issue. At AoA, there are 3 different sized mattresses in each suite. Housekeeping uses queen size (or possibly king...I'm not positive) flat sheets for every bed. They just tuck the extra length under the mattress.

 

[DisneyMom93]

Just in case anyone is bored today, here's a link to the Inova website listing the dimensions of their beds.

https://static1.squarespace.com/sta...ff0d5/1494037229114/Inova+TableBed+Spec+Sheet

I know some people have mentioned that it would be a pain for housekeeping to have different size sheets for the same room. But that's not an issue. At AoA, there are 3 different sized mattresses in each suite. Housekeeping uses queen size (or possibly king...I'm not positive) flat sheets for every bed. They just tuck the extra length under the mattress.

Thanks! I didn't know that about the sheets! Makes sense.

I'm bored every day... I'm home with a broken wrist.

 

[HopperFan]

Just in case anyone is bored today, here's a link to the Inova website listing the dimensions of their beds.

https://static1.squarespace.com/sta...ff0d5/1494037229114/Inova+TableBed+Spec+Sheet

Looks like all the cabinets are the same height regardless of the size of the bed (with the exception of the Cali King) so we can't determine the size based on the height of the cabinet. Also, it looks like the width of the cabinet is about 5-6" inches more than the size of the actual bed and anywhere from 5-10" taller/longer than the length of the mattress. So I don't think we're going to be able to determine the size of the actual bed based on the estimated dimensions we're seeing on the drawings. Right now, I'm thinking that there's a possibility that the bed will be an XL full. I know some people have mentioned that it would be a pain for housekeeping to have different size sheets for the same room. But that's not an issue. At AoA, there are 3 different sized mattresses in each suite. Housekeeping uses queen size (or possibly king...I'm not positive) flat sheets for every bed. They just tuck the extra length under the mattress.

AGREE

Sheets are a complete non-issue since as you say they use flats.

I also think those punch sheets are just the furniture drawn on the diagram in appropriate positions. Nothing about the punch list is tied to actual "blueprint" needs, it is merely for them to check a room for damages that need to be addressed so honestly it could be a doodle. I wouldn't read too much in to it for accuracy.

Your info on the bed is most helpful, and makes sense on the length due to the structure of the cabinet (and space to hinge down) vs a standard bed that won't move. Never say never but I don't see an economic advantage to having two queens in a "value" sized room with value type amenities, it's almost as if they would be undercutting their other resorts.

Hopefully won't be long now and someone will get in and do accurate measurements of the murphy mattress and get those bathroom pictures out there!

 

[scrappinginontario]

I'm hoping the second bed remains as a full sized bed.

As @HopperFan has said, if it turns into a second Queen we'll quickly see the price of the rooms at Pop increase.

 

[DisneyMom93]

I'm hoping the second bed remains as a full sized bed.

As @HopperFan has said, if it turns into a second Queen we'll quickly see the price of the rooms at Pop increase.

Yeah, full is fine with us. Especially if it affects the price.

From the Murphy bed dimensions listed, and the diagram (which I personally think is to scale), I'm thinking the Murphy bed is a full-size.

 

[DisneyMom93]

How do you delete a reply you made??

 

[danielocha30]

I'm hoping the second bed remains as a full sized bed.

As @HopperFan has said, if it turns into a second Queen we'll quickly see the price of the rooms at Pop increase.

Gondola will raise the price

 

[DavidHobart]

Disney, of all the hospitality industry, provides the most flexibility relating to number of guests in a single unit. That guests choose not to reserve those options doesn't make connecting rooms a necessity. There's always a baby monitor for the situation described.

Pop rooms are 260 square feet.
The most reasonable room measurement for a unit that size would be 20' deep by 13' wide.

Pop rooms are 11 feet 9 inches wide, with a bathroom depth of 66 inches and a sleeping space depth of 18 feet 2 inches along the longer wall.

 

[HopperFan]

Pop rooms are 11 feet 9 inches wide, with a bathroom depth of 66 inches and a sleeping space depth of 18 feet 2 inches along the longer wall.

And the beds are on the short wall.

Yeah, full is fine with us. Especially if it affects the price.

From the Murphy bed dimensions listed, and the diagram (which I personally think is to scale), I'm thinking the Murphy bed is a full-size.

Hard part here is that you could ask three different resort CMs what is happening and you will get three different answers, it is Disney's specialty. I swear sometimes it's on purpose to avoid any commitments.

But BEDS are so tricky as they do have a variety of sizes, sometimes within the same "name" and add that they are called different things around the world, even here. There are regular size and XL sizes in full and twin, there are King and Cali King. The real tricky is the FULL sized bed. Many call it a double but technically a Queen and King are doubles because some industries/countries call them by their occupancy. Now we add in the murphy factor ....

My point on the drawing is that a Punch List does not require any kind of exact blueprint, only a place to mark issues. I'm still not convinced this is to scale (room/fixtures yes, furniture location, no) especially when you look at nightstands. It shows three different sizes, the two attached to bed are clearly not the same and the space between the two beds when open would be very tight. But it doesn't really matter in the long run .... unless there is only 15" or so between the beds, that will matter.

 

[DavidHobart]

In my walk-about I saw two rooms where the Innova bed was down.

The foot of the bed looked to be in the exact same place as the foot of the main bed. Because of what I assume is some need for rotational clearance in the Innova, this suggests pretty strongly a queen and a full. If my assumption about rotational clearance is off, then maybe it is two queens.

I just added a (lousy) picture of such a room to yesterday's refurb post (refresh your browser if the photo doesn't come up--my caching software sometimes is slow...I can't link to my own stuff, though others can). The camera angle makes the foot of the Innova bed look shorter than in real life, where it really did look like the two foots lined up exactly.