Poll-Will disney force you off site with their cuts?

[Tltorrez]

I agree with this 100%. I like evening EMH, but we've closed down a park once in 9 trips. I don't purchase the dining plan anymore anyway.

Agree completely. I think the only time we stay that late is MNSSHP. We mostly stay Deluxe for the location. If we can't afford that, we'll stay Value or Mod. The farthest off site we'll go is the Dolphin. For me, all the little touches that come with staying onsite are part of the magical experience.

And I'd much rather have Wi-Fi in the parks than one extra hour. I just don't buy the whole "Disney keeps cutting" thing.they add stuff; they take stuff away. Things change. it's business. It's not a grand conspiracy to drive people away.

 

[GrumpyBelle]

We are DVC so stay deluxe anyway. However, even if we were to need to book a cash reservation and couldn't afford deluxe, we would still stay on property. For us, it is part of the overall experience. We enjoy EMH, but cutting back by an hour wouldn't break our trip. We have only closed down a park once. We do use FP but also are reasonable about how much we want to ride a ride if all the FP are gone for the day. If it is important to us, we wait in line, if not we move on. There is plenty for use to do. We don't use the dining plan anyway so this does not affect us.

 

[ben1993]

If Disney eventually restricts all the great perks to deluxe only, I'll vacation else where. There's already better Disney destinations in the world anyway.

 

[CR88]

I am not sure if it will force us offsite as we are DVC members, but we do occasionally add an extra trip or two per year that are out of pocket. It would make us re-think going as often.

That being said, we had the opportunity to do a split stay a few weeks ago with the first part of the stay being offsite at the Marriott World Center and the second half being at the Polynesian.

My wife and I both agreed that the experience isn't even close to the same. This is not just comparing DVC to Offsite or Deluxe to Offsite. We have also split stay with a value (Pop Century) and offsite, as well as a Mod (Port Orleans Riverside) and Offsite, and it just feels different. It's hard to explain, but we feel more in the "spirit" onsite, and stress levels are so much less than back at home in the grind, or even the stress of finding a parking spot or catching the shuttle. It's really not even close for us.

We tried saving money going offsite and we end up paying for a rental, or for shuttles to Disney and back, or worrying about shuttle schedules. The food was also more expensive than I would have thought being offsite, unless you drive to a Walmart or some other local store. It just wasn't worth it. No matter how nice the offsite accommodations were, and some were very nice, the experience wasn't even close to being onsite surrounded by Disney, and in some cases being within walking distance to the parks. We would rather be at Pop Century than a condo or beach house with private pool any day.

My wife even said on numerous occasions over the years as we left Disney property to go back to our hotel, condo, etc., that it just feels different when you leave. I agree, when we finally got to the second leg of our most recent stay which was onsite, it felt so much more comfortable, like we were back home.

So, if Disney does keep cutting, I don't think it will force us offsite as much as it will curb our Disney appetite. When we do Disney, it will definitely be all Disney, onsite from now on, we just may not go near as often.

 

[k&a&c'smom]

We almost always stay deluxe, but still not a fan of the idea of FP for only deluxe guests (not that I think it would happen, as others have posted). We rarely ever use the evening EMH and certainly don't stay 3 hours when we do, so that won't affect us, either. I remember years ago being able to purchase the E-Ride Nights tickets before the night time EMH started, I'm surprised they haven't made a move to return to something similar.

The price increases for food, tix, rooms and the reduction in discounts HAVE affected us. We've cut down on the number of visits to WDW and started going elsewhere (beach, Universal, etc.) to make our vacation budget go farther. We still love Disney, just go less often.

 

[Tltorrez]

I there any actual evidence or even a hint that FPs might be limited to Deluxe guests? Where does this even come from? It just seems so unlikely to me.

 

[crostorfer]

I there any actual evidence or even a hint that FPs might be limited to Deluxe guests? Where does this even come from? It just seems so unlikely to me.

There is no evidence to ANYTHING at this point. Its all conjecture.

 

[Tltorrez]

There is no evidence to ANYTHING at this point. Its all conjecture.

Thanks. I thought I missed something.

I think restricting FPs to Deluxes has about as much chance of happening as that whole thread about demolishing the hat.

 

[friend2Figment]

Not sure they will force us off site but if they would cut out EMH all together I would not spend the extra $ for hoppers and with a family of 5 it adds up. We have never closed a park so cutting the hours of EMH would still be ok for us. We do use the FP's a lot so that would just make us enjoy our vacation less making so Disney would no longer be our top pick vacation spot any more. I would not pay $6,000+ for a vacation to stand in long lines.
The prices keep going up that would be what would actually force us "offsite" actually we are looking at Dolphin as an option for our next trip.

 

[BYC]

Never. I would never stay off site. Ever. For any reason.

 

[Carrie in AZ]

Never. I would never stay off site. Ever. For any reason.

This. We LOVE on-site and nothing Disney does or doesn't do would ever send us off-site. I can't imagine staying off-site. We adore the immersion of Disney during our vacation. If we couldn't stay on-site, we would stay home.

DH and I paid for night EMH at MK on our trip in 1999. There was hardly anyone there, I think it was from like 7 to 10pm or 9 to 11pm. Loved it and would pay for it again. We'd pay for FPs also if it ever came to that.

 

[daisy8869]

There is no evidence of this idea and I think the folks at Disney are looking to force things in the opposite direction...trying to make more visitors preplan their vacations. Think about it, if you know that a thousand people have fast passes between 4-8pm on Splash Mountain vs. 100 fast passes on Dumbo for the same time frame, then they can move CM's efficiently to where the capacity is. Also the more preplanned a person's vacation is, the more likely their unplanned time will be spent in shops and eateries. I think Disney will move towards issuing as many fast passes as possible, including the new electronic online system. Then they will know how many guests will be at X location at X time.

As far as staying on-site, it is my preference and will continue to be as long as the transportation/ ME stays the same or better and I can afford it. I would love to see a fast pass bonus for those stay in Mods or Deluxe (maybe reduce the pull time?).

 

[Tigger1]

We paid for EMH back in 1999 also. I think it cost around $12 per guest for 3 extra hours. There was a limited number of tickets sold so the park was not nearly as busy as it now is. After going to the EMH now with the crowds and long lines, my family has mentioned Disney should go back to charging. I do not think it would stop the crowds from coming now.

 

[reiella]

I there any actual evidence or even a hint that FPs might be limited to Deluxe guests? Where does this even come from? It just seems so unlikely to me.

Rampant speculation and negativity with regards to 'NextGen'/FastPass+. The trial they're running where you can select fastpass itinerary in advance of the park day.

 

[Tltorrez]

Rampant speculation and negativity with regards to 'NextGen'/FastPass+. The trial they're running where you can select fastpass itinerary in advance of the park day.

I just don't get the leap from that test to limiting to FPs to Deluxe guests or paying for FPs/EMH.

But then I might be the only person who thinks reserving your FP time in advance is a fabulous idea. I just hate the RD stampedes. I really hope this is in place by my Dec trip.

 

[crostorfer]

Rampant speculation and negativity with regards to 'NextGen'/FastPass+. The trial they're running where you can select fastpass itinerary in advance of the park day.

That's just it. It's all speculation and rumors started by people who have no idea what the actual situation will pan out to be.

And at no point ever has any reliable source or Disney press release said anything about fast passes being only for deluxe guests. NextGen is not a Fastpass, it's a ride reservation system. The two are totally separate and people are screaming "the sky is falling" for nothing.

 

[eliza61]

Also guys remember what one mans perks, is another mans non issue.
for example, magical express/transportation isn't a perk for me. I never go to disney without a car because I don't like disney transportation so if they got rid of it, there would not be a huge outcry for me.

On or off site is more about value for me. No way would I ever pay disneys prices for deluxes, while I like the immersion factor if I didnt have the dvc and one reason I brought it was to always get cheap lodgings, no way do I think the deluxes are worth the 300 bucks/night they charge for them especially with a Waldorf astoria next door and a 4 seasons on the way.

Also at different times, my needs are different. since my kids are older, late emh are way more important now than rope drop and again the same with the "immersion" factor. Now that my kids are teens/young adults, 24/7 all disney channels is really not all tha important but having the extra space and a full kitchen is.

Every body has to consider the things that are important to them, now as far as fast pass/generation x are concerned? it's really not a concern. disney is going to do what they will so I'll handle that crisis when it comes.

 

[nh grandma]

Let's hope they do not choose to cater to the S. American groups! 138 groups/day in MK alone! Need I say more?! Yikes!

 

[poly princess]

I have not heard of this.
Honestly, I think this would be a disaster from a financial standpoint. Disney did not become a billion dollar company, by not anticipating their guests needs, wants, like and dislikes. If they did this, they would be alienating a a huge market. Nothing is speaks louder and stronger than the almighty dollar. Should they do this, the solution is don't visit Disney. Not visiting Disney = no $$ = angry stock holders. Angry stock holders = EMH for all

Poly

 

[jenrose66]

DH and I were discussing the proposed cuts to EMH and he said perhaps its part of the plan to cut perks to those staying at the Value and Moderate resorts-I know theres long been conjecture that eventually FPs will be just for Deluxe guests. Which made us start to ponder-if Disney do remove fasptass for all but Deluxe guests and cut EMH altogether would we stop staying on site? (We are Value people and could not afford to stay Deluxe-even moderate was a splurge for our Disneymoon! )
So what do others think? Hopefully this is not the way its heading but who knows whats in the pipeline....

I don't really take advantage of EMH and I love the convenience of staying on property so there is pretty much nothing Disney could do that would "force" me offsite.