Please no one get upset but....

[SnackyStacky]

Originally posted by DVC~OKW~96
I grow a little weary of the "don't go if you don't like crowds." What a perfectly acceptable way to warn people off. There is never so much concern for others being subjected to crowds as there is over this week in June.

Many families can ONLY go over summer vacation, and they're looking for one of the less crowded times of the summer. They will not find it that week. It IS very crowded, and I will personally continue to relay that advice.

Originally posted by DVC~OKW~96
Warn people away from spring break, Fourth of July, Christmas, NYE, most of summer, too if that is your true intent; not just that one week in June.

As I said above - those are the times when kids are off of school. Hence, crowds will always be large. People are trying to plan when they're going to hit the least of those very large crowds. And in that case, I will continue to suggest the last weeks of August.

Originally posted by DVC~OKW~96
Can't we ever just let it go? Can't we ever just have no remarkable discussion about this time of year?

Someone praised this thread for not being a bashing one. Well, no-it's not openly bashing anyone. But to think that many of the comments here do not give extreme offense is to be incredibly naive.

No - it cannot just be let go.

This is a Disney World message board, with new registrations EVERY day. And invariably, every year, there will be new people who don't have experience and have legitimate questions concerning Gay Days. Many of these people, as the original poster said, have those concerns because openly gay people are not part of their everyday lives.

I shouldn't need to prove myself, but almost all of my male friends are gay, and I frequently support many gay causes. I just went to a concert of the Buffalo Gay Men's Chorus. So if my comments still come across as "extremely offensive", then there's nothing that I can do. But perhaps before you make comments like that, you should appreciate that with THOUSANDS of different registrants, there's likely to be varying opinions, and people coming from different places.

 

[Tigger&Belle]

Hmmm, on a past thread I voiced concern about the number of people who might be at WDW during early December with Pop Warner. Oh, no, I must have a problem with kids playing sports. I'll make sure that I inform my son's baseball coach when I'm watching the 7 games in 7 days that he has starting tonight!

DVC~OKW~96, I did not notice any negative postings on this thread until you posted. No doubt you have experienced discrimination from many people, which I think is terrible, but I really don't think that that is the feeling from these postings.

T&B

 

[disneyfanz04]

There are certain things that I won't subject my children to, and this is one of them. I, as a Christian do not believe this is moraly right, therefore I will not take my kids during that weeks. Yes, there may be gays there when we DO go, but I don't know that, just like if my daughter wanted to go to a party, I wouldn't let her go if I KNEW there were going to be drinking and drugs there, but if I didn't know there was then I may let her go(just an example) I am not going to knowingly subject my children to this.
I am not in any way trying to be offensive, but I think everyone should have the right to ask questions about and make decisions about whether they would want to take their children during that week. I am sorry if I offended anyone, that wasn't my intention.

 

[missypie]

Originally posted by DVC~OKW~96
Worry about Cheerleaders, Dancers, Pop Warner too, do you? Those are all boisterous crowds, far more so than any I've witnessed during Gay day or Gay week.[/B]

I haven't done a search or anything, but just by memory, I would say that folks on the DIS are MUCH more concerned about avoiding the cheerleaders than they are about Gay Days!

 

[crzy4mk]

Originally posted by disneyfanz04
There are certain things that I won't subject my children to, and this is one of them. I, as a Christian do not believe this is moraly right, therefore I will not take my kids during that weeks. Yes, there may be gays there when we DO go, but I don't know that, just like if my daughter wanted to go to a party, I wouldn't let her go if I KNEW there were going to be drinking and drugs there, but if I didn't know there was then I may let her go(just an example) I am not going to knowingly subject my children to this.
I am not in any way trying to be offensive, but I think everyone should have the right to ask questions about and make decisions about whether they would want to take their children during that week. I am sorry if I offended anyone, that wasn't my intention.

Thank you, disneyfanz04. This is exactly what I wanted to say, but wasn't sure how to say it. Your response was honest and not at all offensive.

 

[goofy4tink]

Originally posted by DVC~OKW~96
The official hotels are more of a singles scene. Unfortunately, Double Tree Suites, the women's official hotel of last year, was not the place for even singles to be. There was a considerable amount of intolerance displayed there. Note the venue change and loss of revenue for that hotel.

Parents with children tend to stay in places like WDW resorts (All Stars, Beach Club, Poly and the like) to keep the experience a Disney one.

Single folks go to the meet for the Disney (and US/IOA and Seaworld) and the socialization.

Don't kid yourself. Many folks NOT wearing red, who are lesbians and gays also attend. Some of us find the color too hot for June.

I've yet to see a family wearing red (during that time) be mistaken for gay, so put that ridiculous notion aside, ok?

I grow a little weary of the "don't go if you don't like crowds." What a perfectly acceptable way to warn people off. There is never so much concern for others being subjected to crowds as there is over this week in June.

Warn people away from spring break, Fourth of July, Christmas, NYE, most of summer, too if that is your true intent; not just that one week in June.

What do you tell your child if there are questions? Whatever you find appropriate. No one is going to convince you to say something you don't want to. My personal favorite is, "they love each other." Not too difficult to say, is it?

Worry about Cheerleaders, Dancers, Pop Warner too, do you? Those are all boisterous crowds, far more so than any I've witnessed during Gay day or Gay week.

PDA? I've seen extremely offensive actions. Ones that were totally inappropriate and inexcusable for being conducted in public. Every one of those actions was undertaken by a heterosexual couple.

Can't we ever just let it go? Can't we ever just have no remarkable discussion about this time of year?

Someone praised this thread for not being a bashing one. Well, no-it's not openly bashing anyone. But to think that many of the comments here do not give extreme offense is to be incredibly naive.

You know, this was a very nice, polite thread. I was actually watching to see when it turned nasty. Well, it happened. No one was 'overtly' bashing, no one was being 'subtle' in their bashing. There was NO bashing. I don't go that first week-end in June either. Yep, it's because of those nasty people there. NOT!! I avoid MK on Saturdays like the plague.....all year long and especially if there is something special going on there. I think that 'GayDays' would qualify as something special going on. I have to say that I am somewhat offended myself by your disparraging remarks. I think my lesbian step-sister or my gay brother would have to laugh at the thought that I was making an offensive remark. The OP asked about this particular week-end, not the crowds at Christmas, or 4th of July. We only answered a well put question. Please cut some of these people a little slack here. No bashing going on that I can see. And like I said...I was looking for it. If someone holds a different opinion, well that's okay too. I consider myself a practicing Christian also. We can have different opinions and still like each other. My word, just because I accept homosexuality doesn't mean that everyone has to. There are a lot of people out there without my particular life experiences to go on. If they did then maybe they would feel differently. Now, can we get back to nicely answering the questions?

 

[disneyfanz04]

Originally posted by goofy4tink
You know, this was a very nice, polite thread. I was actually watching to see when it turned nasty. Well, it happened. No one was 'overtly' bashing, no one was being 'subtle' in their bashing. There was NO bashing. I don't go that first week-end in June either. Yep, it's because of those nasty people there. NOT!! I avoid MK on Saturdays like the plague.....all year long and especially if there is something special going on there. I think that 'GayDays' would qualify as something special going on. I have to say that I am somewhat offended myself by your disparraging remarks. I think my lesbian step-sister or my gay brother would have to laugh at the thought that I was making an offensive remark. The OP asked about this particular week-end, not the crowds at Christmas, or 4th of July. We only answered a well put question. Please cut some of these people a little slack here. No bashing going on that I can see. And like I said...I was looking for it. If someone holds a different opinion, well that's okay too. I consider myself a practicing Christian also. We can have different opinions and still like each other. My word, just because I accept homosexuality doesn't mean that everyone has to. There are a lot of people out there without my particular life experiences to go on. If they did then maybe they would feel differently. Now, can we get back to nicely answering the questions?

Well put...thanks for the input!!!!!

 

[Mickey76]

I have been to WDW during Gay Days. I don't have a problem with homosexuals, although there were some actions by some homosexuals when I was at WDW in 2002 that disturbed me. These were actions that would have bothered me, even if it had been done by heterosexuals, such as talking freely about one's sexual conquests the night before, while waiting in line for MK to open. That's rude and distasteful to do anywhere in public, but to do it with lots of families with young children around is wrong. There were also some offensive t-shirts being worn. However, both of these negative instances were from a small minority of the homosexuals I encountered during my stay. In fact, I sat next to several that same morning during a character breakfast at Crystal Palace and they were extremely nice and fun to talk to. I felt bad for them, though, as they felt the need to apologize for the rest of them that were being rude and obnoxious. As long as you can surely tolerate who they are and that you take time to explain to your children that not everyone likes someone of the opposite gender in the romantic sense, there shouldn't be a problem.


Mickey76

 

[SnackyStacky]

Here's the topic at hand:

I have to ask a question or two about gay week.

When is gay week? and Would you take you family that is not around people that are gay this week? I don't have a problem with it but I really don't want to have to answer alot of questions on vaction if my 9 year DD picks up on it. Is there alot of special things going on in the Parks/Resort for the group or is it just a time Disney celebrates with them? Will it be that noticable that we might feel out of place?

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[EsmeraldaX]

Originally posted by DVC~OKW~96

I grow a little weary of the "don't go if you don't like crowds." What a perfectly acceptable way to warn people off. There is never so much concern for others being subjected to crowds as there is over this week in June.

Warn people away from spring break, Fourth of July, Christmas, NYE, most of summer, too if that is your true intent; not just that one week in June.

Worry about Cheerleaders, Dancers, Pop Warner too, do you? Those are all boisterous crowds, far more so than any I've witnessed during Gay day or Gay week.

I think you are majorly overreacting.

I was about to respond and say the Gay Day stuff doesn't bother me at all, but be wary of the added crowds.

YES. I tell people that during the other times as well. You sit here complaining that we horrible straight people are assuming things about you. Well... guess what, you are also assuming things about us. Don't.

Most people I've encountered on these boards, gay and straight , warn people about crowds during weeks that certain groups will be there. That doesn't make us anything except trying to give advice on less crowded times to go.

Disney bills the first week of June is an average attendance and it is not. It is not "peak" attendance, but it IS slightly higher than average because of this event, just like the Pop Warner week is and the Cheerleader week.

YOU really need to lighten up and get back in the Disney spirit.