I still don't agree about the movies and/or theatre (at home or at
DCL). No, it isn't always that "easy" (as someone stated) to "You know it's not that big a deal to show up a few minutes early all together or send a few more people from your party to ensure nice seats all together. We showed up 20-25 minutes early (at least 2-3 of the 4 of us) to the WD theater and always found great seats together."
That's YOUR opinion that that's not a big deal! It can be for a family. When we go to the movies here- they already have (and I am NOT exaggerating even a minute!) 30min of previews for every show (we live in a small town- and I don't know why they do that.. it's ridiculous) and so showing up 20-30min early to get seats for all of us would literally mean that our children will have to sit there near an hour before the movie starts. Do YOU want to be sitting next to my children after they've already sat there for an hour before the movie even starts? I wouldn't.... and I'm their mom. LOL Also what if you need one adult to take the children to the bathroom before the show starts- can't save their seats? Would you not prefer we take care of that before the show rather than getting up one at a time (that means 3 for my family btw) later on when each needs to go because TRUST me... they are going to need to go. They always do... which is why we take care of it before the show starts.
Same goes for the theatre on DCL- showing up early maybe not a big deal to "do" but it might be a big deal for the actual enjoyment of the show for the parents and everyone around them... then we'd get to hear about how children misbehave so horribly and shouldn't be getting up and down constantly to go to the bathroom etc. and they should have the shows on DCL be for adults only because children can't behave.
*sigh* It's not enough for one parent to go and save the seats and have the children+other parent show up shortly before it starts to make everyone have a better time because the kids aren't bored waiting for the show to start... now they have to come early, sit for 20-30min atleast, and then STILL act like perfect adults. Not going to happen!!
It's not always possible to send a "few more people" from your party to ensure nicer seats when they are children... that's STILL having the (or some of the) children with you for an extra time before the show BORED... and bored young children have a tendency to behave worse than those that are seated shortly before the show starts. I'm not saying all... but there would be a lot MORE well behaved children if they hadn't all sat there for 30min doing what? Enjoying the ambience of the theatre till it starts in 30min?
I totally agree with you when it's adults- but when it comes to a family with children they may be saving those seats for two reasons and two reasons only- one of which directly involves YOUR enjoyment of the show.
1) so they can see the show because if they show up later and haven't saved seats then they might not get seats together and I'm sure you wouldn't want my 3yr old sitting by you with me 2 rows back. LOL
and (this next one directly involves your enjoyment of the show)
2) so that the children haven't had to sit bored for 20-30min prior to the show starting and have a more likely chance of behaving themselves so we can all enjoy the show.
I can't believe people are actually suggesting that all families should show up with young children and sit for 30min before a show... then you expect them to ALL behave like little adults or else we need to LEAVE? Not to mention if we can't save seats and DON'T show up early like you say- then we might not get to see it at all anyway. So either way we have a much lower chance of ever seeing the shows... that's nice. If I wanted that kind of treatment- I'd go on a cruiseline that was more adult-oriented rather than a family one like Disney! geesh
I do think that you can do it in a way that is not rude- and I especially would not save seats in a prime (or THE prime) location (like front row or something). We usually like to sit in the back anyway or closest to an exit in case we DO have to make a hasty exit if one of our children refuses to behave properly (like when babies and start crying or something- mine are older now and do usually behave properly). But what if someone ELSE thought the back row was a "prime" location to them?? We'd never be able to find a seat or row that no one else felt was a great seat.
I don't think it's right to save an entire row- because like I said... I don't there are many cases of having such large families without more parents where they COULDN'T be split up with some parents with some children if necessary. But when it comes to a family of 5- we're going to need ATLEAST 2 seats together and 3 seats together- so atleast one parent can be with our children split up in 2/1. If one parent is saving seats- they can't very well save them seperate like that. 2 seats together is probably easier to find though- so maybe I'd attempt to save 3 together (my butt taking up one seat- so only saving 2) and then when DH came with the kids (if he had all of them with them- assuming that was the case in this hypothetical- more than likely he'd be there with children saving a seat for ME.... only me... since I'll probably take longer to get ready for the dressier dinners after the show and such) and then the other 2 seats could be found wherever. I'd never save an entire row... like if my sister's family cruised with us it wouldn't be imperative that we all sat together for the shows. That's just silly IMO. But we DO need to have parents sitting next to their children.... I hope you agree with that.
And the only way for that to happen if they can't all go and sit 30min before the show and then have children tired of sitting there by the time the show starts- might be for one parent to save a seat for whatever other parts of the family need to not sit there 30min (like for us it would definitely be our 2 youngest children). If they can't save seats and are considered rude for doing so.... then they might not get to see the show. And I tell ya- if someone took seats I was saving- I'd make a POINT to find that person the next night and sit there for 30min before the show with my children.. and see how they like that scenario better.
HA
Bet they wouldn't enjoy that show as much....
I totally agree on the saving of pool chairs, etc. but when it comes to a show I don't think it's fair to say no seat saving. Those seats ARE going to be used- they aren't being saved and not used like many chairs are not used at the pool, hammocks at CC, etc. They ARE going to be used/sat in.... AND the only alternative is to have families sitting there with children for long periods of time waiting for a show to ensure they have the seats for the show.... I would NOT prefer that- even if I was going with DH alone and my kids in the clubs. That's just ASKING for a theatre full of antsy children tired of sitting there! OR to have them all show up right before the show starts and not get to see it because there aren't seats where they can sit next to their family.
Maybe to solve the "no seat saving" issues I have brought up above then DCL should make it like they do their 'shows' at the parks... everyone scoot your hiney's over to the end. Even if you show up early- scoot over and no leaving seats (one or two) in between you and the "strangers" that sit next to you. Then we wouldn't have this problem of a theatre full of one seat here, two seats there, one seat here, one seat there... all in between people leaving a family of 5 unable to sit and watch the show because children can't sit by themselves at young ages! Sounds like a good idea to me.... if saving seats for your immediately family is against DCL rules (and apparently it is) and is considered "rude" by other guests. Well I think it's rude to leave all those one or two empty seats between you and your neighbors sitting there- making families no seating.
The shows are also different than the pool chairs, CC hammocks, etc. in another way- aren't they? When they book you on your dining rotation therefore you have your theatre rotation..... right? They do make it where there are enough seats for those guests to see the shows, right? It's not like the pools and hammocks where there are far less of those than the amount of guests on the cruise- right? SO, there should be a seat for everyone- or atleast much much closer to being so- right? So therefore we wouldn't have this saving seats problem if people wouldn't do that one/two seats in between them thing.
That is just so rude of them to do that. I think it's just as rude as you may think it's rude for someone to save a seat. Either way it's keeping others from being able to use the seat and see the show!
Arggh.
Personally even though I hate the thought of the kids missing out on the shows I'm hoping they just want to stay in the clubs/lab during the shows.... that way I don't have to worry about being "rude" by saving their seats so they can sit right before the show and won't have to sit there bored for 20/30min and then ruin EVERYONE'S experience... including my own! *fingers crossed*
Honestly- if they don't allow seat saving... then I think that before the show starts everyone should have to scoot over or somehow make room for those families that have to sit with their children but can't because of all the seat here/seat there that ALWAYS goes on in theatres (as if it would kill you if you sat next to a stranger- heaven forbid....). If you can't save seats and you can't find seats when you arrive just before the show... then your only alternative is to arrive early and sit there with your children for long periods of time before the show starts.... I wouldn't even like that..... and I have children! I can just see how other children would behave after having to sit there that long.. ugh